Billy1984 6,314 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Pleased for him the way he's turned his form around. Manager now has a decision to make for next week with hill available again as keirnan and Wilson were both excellent yesterday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddistonKnight 1,572 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 9 hours ago, psb07158 said: Hands up I fucking slated him on here many a time. What I've noticed about his game is he has become much more aggressive which is what you need in Scotland. Hope he continues to shove my words down my throat The sign of a man to admit a faux pas. Like you say, I hope he keeps it up. Now if Halliday could do the same........ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozblue 4,332 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 10 hours ago, HG5 said: I think Warburton's thrown his principles out the window! With very satisfactory results!!! The players look a lot happier with what they're doing over the last couple of games. May not be as pretty but if we can conjure something like that up on the 31st, who cares? I wouldn't say the gaffer has thrown his principles out the window,HG; what I would say is that in Clint Hill and Joe Garner+ possibly the likes of Matt Crooks, Phillipe Senderos et al we now have various targets in the box that can cause damage at set pieces in the air, as opposed to previously when we only had Kiernan and Wilson, so it was easy to pick our targets to mark. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit 17 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Thought he was terrific, looked like it was a massive moment for him that goal Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddybear123 215 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 1 hour ago, sammy cox said: Well done to Kiernan put in a very good shift,had him up there for MOTM but just as pleased to see Holt receive it as he put in a great performance as well. Mckay was by far the best player imo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reformation Bear 6,453 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 More goals please, and more often. It would be really good to start to show that we have goal-scoring aerial threat at corner kicks / free kicks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCRobertson 11,792 Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share Posted December 11, 2016 1 minute ago, Reformation Bear said: More goals please, and more often. It would be really good to start to show that we have goal-scoring aerial threat at corner kicks / free kicks. Well I think our biggest threats would be Hill, Garner, Wilson and Kiernan. Maybe Senderos if he ever gets a game again. That's where the mixing up the corner take will matter most, having it short at times and long at other times. So the defenders don't know whether to rush out to Tav whose outside the box or stay with Garner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal 136 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I've fuckin slated him all the time got to hold me hands up and say kiernan and Wilson at long last were fuckin superb yesterday when we were 2 up I kind of wanted them to have a few set pieces and crosses to see if they could deal with it . Big tree Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reformation Bear 6,453 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Just now, RFCRobertson said: Well I think our biggest threats would be Hill, Garner, Wilson and Kiernan. Maybe Senderos if he ever gets a game again. That's where the mixing up the corner take will matter most, having it short at times and long at other times. So the defenders don't know whether to rush out to Tav whose outside the box or stay with Garner. Agreed. Losing the tag of predictability at set pieces and making the opposition uncertain of where the goal scoring threat comes from would be a very good thing. Too often in recent times the approach at set pieces has been so predictable, and at the same time too unrewarding. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,411 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Ozblue said: I wouldn't say the gaffer has thrown his principles out the window,HG; what I would say is that in Clint Hill and Joe Garner+ possibly the likes of Matt Crooks, Phillipe Senderos et al we now have various targets in the box that can cause damage at set pieces in the air, as opposed to previously when we only had Kiernan and Wilson, so it was easy to pick our targets to mark. That certainly helps, mate. I'm more thinking we're a lot more direct than we have been, with much less of the aimless knocking it around until we forget what to do with it! Means we're not dominating the ball as much, but the lads have been getting stuck in & winning lots of second balls. May not be as pretty or controlled as before, but it seems like we've found a way of dealing with these teams that are in the same bracket as us. Be interesting to see if we can take it on the road.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmcf 34,652 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I think he , and our other cb's , have suffered a bit through taking short corners most of the time . Good to see that more lately we're taking some of them long and we might see this a bit more regularly . More pleased with the fact that he's been a lot more solid and reassured at the back . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozblue 4,332 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 53 minutes ago, HG5 said: That certainly helps, mate. I'm more thinking we're a lot more direct than we have been, with much less of the aimless knocking it around until we forget what to do with it! Means we're not dominating the ball as much, but the lads have been getting stuck in & winning lots of second balls. May not be as pretty or controlled as before, but it seems like we've found a way of dealing with these teams that are in the same bracket as us. Be interesting to see if we can take it on the road.... I would agree we are playing with a sharpness we haven't had since the start of the season and I put that down in part to our players now starting to gel a bit better and the fact we had too many players being off form at the same time.We certainly seem to be mixing it up more and not being so predictable in the last few games, so it will be interesting to see if we can unlock the tight defences when we travel to the likes of Hamilton etc. The style of football Warburton prefers needs players who can play quick penetrating movement and pass a ball properly, which we will need to have playing the likes of the sheep and Hearts, plus Bheast FC. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,411 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 1 minute ago, Ozblue said: I would agree we are playing with a sharpness we haven't had since the start of the season and I put that down in part to our players now starting to gel a bit better and the fact we had too many players being off form at the same time.We certainly seem to be mixing it up more and not being so predictable in the last few games, so it will be interesting to see if we can unlock the tight defences when we travel to the likes of Hamilton etc. The style of football Warburton prefers needs players who can play quick penetrating movement and pass a ball properly, which we will need to have playing the likes of the sheep and Hearts, plus Bheast FC. Yes - the tight pitches are another story... Was listening to Man City's game on the way back down the road. They'd completed 495 passes to Leicester's 96. And were 3-0 down! A bit extreme, maybe, but reminded me of how we've been at times! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.E.C. 19,087 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I've seen Andy Webster play for Rangers and now I've seen Kiernan score for Rangers. Definitely telling my grandchildren in 50 years time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozblue 4,332 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, HG5 said: Yes - the tight pitches are another story... Was listening to Man City's game on the way back down the road. They'd completed 495 passes to Leicester's 96. And were 3-0 down! A bit extreme, maybe, but reminded me of how we've been at times! All my coaching life I have been saying that it's not the amount of possession you have that wins games; it's what you do with it that counts as shown in the Leicester game. Leicester had 22% possession over the entire game yet were 3-0 up after 20 minutes and 4-0 up with 12 minutes left to play. Your last sentence is spot on and was the big flaw in our system of play = we get possession and pass around all over the park going nowhere; meanwhile our opponents gladly withdraw back to their penalty box with 10 players behind the ball and we have no answer to them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,715 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I'll say this once and probably only once he had a better game yesterday ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalfollower 1,543 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Kiernans performances in the last 2 games have been reminiscent of the semi final in April. It's why I really can't criticise him because the solidness is always there. Kiernan was good yesterday but wilson for me was immense. If any of our midfielders had that range of passing we'd score barrowloads Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,411 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 4 hours ago, Ozblue said: All my coaching life I have been saying that it's not the amount of possession you have that wins games; it's what you do with it that counts as shown in the Leicester game. Leicester had 22% possession over the entire game yet were 3-0 up after 20 minutes and 4-0 up with 12 minutes left to play. Your last sentence is spot on and was the big flaw in our system of play = we get possession and pass around all over the park going nowhere; meanwhile our opponents gladly withdraw back to their penalty box with 10 players behind the ball and we have no answer to them. Probably shouldn't work like that, but changing from total domination of the ball to chucking it in the mixer a bit looks more likely to get us the results we want! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozblue 4,332 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 3 hours ago, HG5 said: Probably shouldn't work like that, but changing from total domination of the ball to chucking it in the mixer a bit looks more likely to get us the results we want! Our problem was that we dominated the football in most games but in the wrong areas, plus the fact we were so predictable in how our passing shape mapped out that opposition teams had us sussed even before the game started. Now we appear to be mixing the play up and our opponents have to make a choice whether to press us high or have their midfield drop deeper to defend when we decide to go long. Our recent tactics would bring out the best in a player like Niko Kranjcar who would have a field day in our midfield. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,411 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 16 minutes ago, Ozblue said: Our problem was that we dominated the football in most games but in the wrong areas, plus the fact we were so predictable in how our passing shape mapped out that opposition teams had us sussed even before the game started. Now we appear to be mixing the play up and our opponents have to make a choice whether to press us high or have their midfield drop deeper to defend when we decide to go long. Our recent tactics would bring out the best in a player like Niko Kranjcar who would have a field day in our midfield. Aye - his passing would have been just the job, against less packed defences. ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozblue 4,332 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 16 minutes ago, HG5 said: Aye - his passing would have been just the job, against less packed defences. ? Hopefully Warburton can bring in another playmaker during the transfer window to make the tactic work properly Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,672 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Really improved recently, let's hope it continues. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCRobertson 11,792 Posted December 15, 2016 Author Share Posted December 15, 2016 On 12/11/2016 at 10:47 PM, King Jela said: Really improved recently, let's hope it continues. Agree'd. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,924 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Going by the size and shape of him goals from set pieces should be scored regularly, that was a nice one but the cross was a cracker as well, right height and plenty pace on it bending outwards to be attacked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueshoff 11,990 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 1 hour ago, pcbear said: Going by the size and shape of him goals from set pieces should be scored regularly, that was a nice one but the cross was a cracker as well, right height and plenty pace on it bending outwards to be attacked. This ⬆ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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