KeyserSoze 14,661 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 So I'm cutting the Gaffer some slack. He was introducing some steel (Barton) Some class (Kranjcar) Some defensive youth (Rossiter). Throw in young Barrie and that's what he was aiming for. I would have been happy with that - Tav, Halliday and Holt would be subs by now tbf. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenerife Bear 1,748 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Barton and Kranjcar both played at the Piggery in our capitulation. We needed quality not reputation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterD 7,442 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 From what I remember at the start of the season with the intended guys playing it wasn't any better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,773 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 It's just excuses tbh , his signings =his mistakes Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 I'm really hoping that Warburton understands the needs of the club more than he did in the summer, If many of us can see the midfield is ineffective then he can see it. He needs money to invest in the team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,134 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 1 minute ago, KeyserSoze said: So I'm cutting the Gaffer some slack. He was introducing some steel (Barton) Some class (Kranjcar) Some defensive youth (Rossiter). Throw in young Barrie and that's what he was aiming for. I would have been happy with that - Tav, Halliday and Holt would be subs by now tbf. His decision to take off Windass (who was shite) and replace with Dodoo was ridiculous. 37 year old into midfield when he'd put in a fair shift, and bambi on ice looking lost up front. It gave them the midfield. Rookie error. He can't affect squad injuries, but he can and must do better with what he has. He gets this window and several months from me. I'm still backing him but he must do better. And he needs to recognise when a match is a war, it's not about taking care of a ball or showing improvement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiser1041 9,088 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 He let Barton fuck about while we were in pre season and both niko and rossiter have a history of injury. but I won't ridicule your opinions and hope no one does so with me in thinking he's not good enough and is wasting the little money we have ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryMc 2,394 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Fair enough but where are they? You maybe take one risk for a player of exceptional talent in one position. He took a risk on Barton, Kranjcar and Rossiter due to injuries and behaviour. All 3 have so far failed. Add in Crooks and Windass. So far only Windass has had any sort of impact albeit minimum. That to me highlights the gaffers failings rather than give support to them. Poor decision making from him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottywellhousetb 50,694 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Barton (absolute wank)Kranjcar (best days behind him) Rossiter ( injury prone prospect) McKay ( Utter shitebag until some criticism, then a shitebag again) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 ...not what he planned and failed miserably with plan B. Oh that's right there wasn't any. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Just now, Sportingintegritymyarse said: His decision to take off Windass (who was shite) and replace with Dodoo was ridiculous. 37 year old into midfield when he'd put in a fair shift, and bambi on ice looking lost up front. It gave them the midfield. Rookie error. He can't affect squad injuries, but he can and must do better with what he has. He gets this window and several months from me. I'm still backing him but he must do better. And he needs to recognise when a match is a war, it's not about taking care of a ball or showing improvement. His decision to take off Windass (who was shite) and replace with Dodoo was ridiculous. Spot on , bonkers substitution and he's made these ridiculous changes ever since he came here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 For all the difference between the teams today, I can't help but think that it came down to two bits of poor defending, and that we were without a few players, most notably Krancjar and Wallace. I really don't think they're a great bunch at all. Dembele and Sinclair give them a bit of quality up front, where we can struggle, but it was the mistakes at the back that cost us today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amato 3,029 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 3 minutes ago, ger4life_1872 said: It's just excuses tbh , his signings =his mistakes Can hardly blame him for two injuries, OP is spot on Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 There are no excuses. Nice guy, but clueless. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd true bluenose 86 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 4 minutes ago, Tenerife Bear said: Barton and Kranjcar both played at the Piggery in our capitulation. We needed quality not reputation. to be fair Barton was all mouth and Kranjcar was nowhere near fit Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,773 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: His decision to take off Windass (who was shite) and replace with Dodoo was ridiculous. 37 year old into midfield when he'd put in a fair shift, and bambi on ice looking lost up front. It gave them the midfield. Rookie error. He can't affect squad injuries, but he can and must do better with what he has. He gets this window and several months from me. I'm still backing him but he must do better. And he needs to recognise when a match is a war, it's not about taking care of a ball or showing improvement. He just seems incapable of changing a game , the first 10 mins of the second half they were all over us and he just stands there doing nothing Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 The buying of potential is no guarantee that you buy low and sell high; if that is some sort of spending strategy then that could be a major risk of losing more money than would be made if you bought high. We need to look not well into the future exclusively, but to the here and now, and we need Rangers quality footballers; the kind we had before the demotion. If we don't do this then the risk is multifarious- we don't raise the profile of the club to where it should be, we lose out on the rewards that success would bring, and the young players we do buy or bring through the ranks become unfulfilled. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,773 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, Amato said: Can hardly blame him for two injuries, OP is spot on I just can't agree , 1 was over the hill before hand , 1 was always a major risk , rossiter I believe was worth the risk Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,134 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 3 minutes ago, ger4life_1872 said: He just seems incapable of changing a game , the first 10 mins of the second half they were all over us and he just stands there doing nothing Naivety. Said after several minutes in the SC final Tav wasn't at it. Said he'd cost us and he did. Today, said the same to my mate mid first half. Sensed he was bottling it which he did. Became a shite bag passenger. To not see these things, and address them, is unacceptable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,134 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,773 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Just now, Sportingintegritymyarse said: Naivety. Said after several minutes in the SC final Tav wasn't at it. Said he'd cost us and he did. Today, said the same to my mate mud first half. Sensed he was bottling it which he did. Became a shite bag passenger. To not see these things, and address them, is unacceptable. Yeah he must see what we all do Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 I like to think that had Garner not had to go off then Tavernier would have been subbed for Hodson. He was obviously playing so badly that surely the manager saw it as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, OlegKuznetsov said: For all the difference between the teams today, I can't help but think that it came down to two bits of poor defending, and that we were without a few players, most notably Krancjar and Wallace. I really don't think they're a great bunch at all. Dembele and Sinclair give them a bit of quality up front, where we can struggle, but it was the mistakes at the back that cost us today. It's a team game and their victory a team effort. They were better in defence, in midfield, which wasn't hard as we didn't have one and up front there is a chasm between us and them. BR does have them better organised and getting the best out of them. I didn't see them break sweat and they were far stronger at the end. Man for man, they have the better quality, I'm not saying vast, but it makes all the difference as the league table reflects. McKay aside, who of course we know doesn't do it enough, but was good enough today to tempt others down south to take him away. Fod's kept the score line respectible, nothing else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
centenarystand 2,227 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Here lies the main problem. Week in week out there is no creativity from midfield. Today in the second half they strolled through our midfield. No steel no creativity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenerife Bear 1,748 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 3 minutes ago, Turnberry18 said: I like to think that had Garner not had to go off then Tavernier would have been subbed for Hodson. He was obviously playing so badly that surely the manager saw it as well. He took 2 players off who were having better games, albeit still not good enough, so i am not so sure he did see it. He has a real soft spot for Tav. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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