Smile 26,622 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I still think although results don't necessarily back it up that we have better players, I just think the Manager is not getting the best of them. We will see i Guess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I agree Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 83,874 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 We will improve initially without a doubt. Teams tend to always get good results immediately following a manager leaving, it's what they do in the long term will be interesting Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,510 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Agreed. I think that we actually have better players than last season, but don't have the tactics. Pedro would be a better scout than coach. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueAvenger 10,516 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 We need a magician then !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster. 1,114 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 1 minute ago, .Williamson. said: We will improve initially without a doubt. Teams tend to always get good results immediately following a manager leaving, it's what they do in the long term will be interesting The Aberdeen double header will be the first significant test and then of course the New Year match. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulboy 2,521 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I'm not so sure as a new manager cannot control the cluster fuck decisions of the referees. Last night again Power goes through the back of Dorrans yellow card all day long he then gets a yellow in the 2nd half which would of meant a red and killie playing practically the entire 2nd half with 10 men. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, soulboy said: I'm not so sure as a new manager cannot control the cluster fuck decisions of the referees. Last night again Power goes through the back of Dorrans yellow card all day long he then gets a yellow in the 2nd half which would of meant a red and killie playing practically the entire 2nd half with 10 men. Pedro had 5 points out of 15 at home refs decisions or not it was always going to end this way with those results. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulboy 2,521 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I agree but Hibs should have been down to 10 men. hearts we had a perfectly good goal chopped off and as I said ref last night. Referees are costing us points not just the manager. New manager in same old shit referees. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 We have no idea who the next manager will be let alone be able to say, as a matter of fact, he'll be better. You hope he'll be better as do we all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 If it was short term I'd like to see Walter and Neil McCann, with Murty alongside them. If there is a budget on offer than I'd like us to look at a high calibre manager immediately. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackal 549 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Be interesting to see if Bruno Alves knuckles down for new manager. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 75,116 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I concur. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 One would think that after last night's performance they couldn't get any worse, so a reasonable bet they could improve, but personally I just can't see any major step change forthcoming and we won't need to wait for the sheep fixtures to prove it. Poor ball control, misplaced passes, poor movement and more, has got little to do with tactics. The stuff just aint there. We are pish. Unless hertz have noze dived even further than the worst team in the league, I see us getting turned over. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jackal said: Be interesting to see if Bruno Alves knuckles down for new manager. He hasn't knuckled down for this one, so I doubt it. Work his ticket more like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Well, it all depends on how many of the players he signed decide to chuck it once he's sacked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurrayWilson 3,507 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Definitely, the squad we have now has for the most part better players than for the last few yeasr. A new man will get mote out of them, I have no doubt about that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Once a shitbag always a shitbag. And if the dressing room is as split as they all claim this team is fucked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 1 minute ago, MurrayWilson said: Definitely, the squad we have now has for the most part better players than for the last few yeasr. A new man will get mote out of them, I have no doubt about that. I admire your optimism. Get more out of them to end up where exactly? I don't think we'll even get near the sheep, which isn't a bad thing in one respect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop 654 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 You may get the quick bounce effect but I don't believe we have the quality to sustain it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza87 160 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 25 minutes ago, soulboy said: I agree but Hibs should have been down to 10 men. hearts we had a perfectly good goal chopped off and as I said ref last night. Referees are costing us points not just the manager. New manager in same old shit referees. I agree to an extent but the way PC winds everyone up I can understand us being made a target to an extent. A manager who knows how to conduct himself would get a better response I would hope. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurrayWilson 3,507 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 46 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said: I admire your optimism. Get more out of them to end up where exactly? I don't think we'll even get near the sheep, which isn't a bad thing in one respect. Quite simple really, get more out of them in respect of performances and results. Where we will end up in the league table I don't know. In what respect would not getting near Aberdeen be a good thing? You accuse others of having no ambition for the club but don't want us to get near Aberdeen. Why? Most supporters I know want us to be as good as we possibly can be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,136 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 It was the same when McCall took over the reins, their was an obvious reaction and results improved but ultimately not enough to get thru the playoffs, MW came in and the improvement was their for all to see again.....once more it was a false dawn as we struggled big time the following season....you could even suggest their is an element of improvement under Pedro but ultimately not enough to take us to the level required...... Another change in manager will most probably see an improvement again but their is no longevity to the form changing for the better, the next appointment needs to be a good one but hey we have been saying that for years now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muz333 361 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I believe Pedro got rid of a lot of dross and replaced them with better players that for whatever reason he isn’t getting the best out of. Under a new manager I would expect Morelos, Candias, Alves, Cardoso and possibly even Peña, with intense training, to go on and have great careers under us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copland bear 7,966 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 1 hour ago, psb07158 said: Well, it all depends on how many of the players he signed decide to chuck it once he's sacked. They chucked it will he was manager that's the problem Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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