Bad Robot 21,398 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Bluepeter9 said: There are anti Rangers stories but ‘agenda’ as In a coordinated campaign - nope don’t buy that paranoid stuff - and starting from that premise is pathetic. I’m convinced you’re just a troll or your on meds KWBear, Courtyard Bear and JCDBigBear 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 65,456 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 9 hours ago, ForeverAndEver said: Canny wait until they get pulled up for this on Monday after bigotry is sadly heard by one and all from our end, we need to get our act together to help C1872 There is a very small minority who let us down by refusing to join in with songs about the UVF and various other battle songs ForeverAndEver 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 65,456 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Quoted the wrong post there but the point still stands ForeverAndEver 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 83,074 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Courtyard Bear said: Saying bad words (according to some) and telling the Head of the most fucked up corrupt and downright sickening church to fuck off. Fuck the fucking pope and the fucking ira mate The Specky Forum Organiser and Courtyard Bear 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,831 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 4 hours ago, Bluepeter9 said: There are anti Rangers stories but ‘agenda’ as In a coordinated campaign - nope don’t buy that paranoid stuff - and starting from that premise is pathetic. You will be in the minority which isn't unusual for you. I never mentioned a co-ordinated campaign. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 11 hours ago, Virtuoso said: I'll never give up but I know of people who have sat in meetings with Police Scotland and NBM and have argued about the use and terminology / history of 'hun' and 'fenian' till they were blue in the face. The consensus is that 'hun' on it's own isn't offensive where as 'hun bastard' might be (dependent). The use of 'fenian' is offensive regardless whether you call them 'fenians' or 'fenian bastards' - despite them referring to themselves as 'unrepentant fenian bastards'. All it takes is for one Bear to go not guilty with a decent lawyer and rip the whole argument regarding 'fenian = catholic' to shreds and set a precedent. One of us complaining about being offended by their use of the word fenian (as their great great grandfather was a "fenian" in the true meaning of the word) then they are fucked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 5 hours ago, JCDBigBear said: You will be in the minority which isn't unusual for you. I never mentioned a co-ordinated campaign. Is that not implied in the whole ‘agenda’ thing - even in your previous post you go back to there being an ‘agenda’. one thing that surprises me when folk talk about our negative press coverage and ‘political’ agendas - is that they never see the negative things written about others ( and yes there is loads) and politically if we are the majority and meant to be aligned with the majority, politically, how come this majority allows this ‘agenda’ to happen? My answer is because that ‘agenda’ does not exist except in the minds of a section of our supporters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Hobbs 2,227 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I think you need to look up the meaning of the word. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 6 hours ago, .Williamson. said: Fuck the fucking pope and the fucking ira mate Forgot about those cowardly cunts. ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 47 minutes ago, Bluepeter9 said: Is that not implied in the whole ‘agenda’ thing - even in your previous post you go back to there being an ‘agenda’. one thing that surprises me when folk talk about our negative press coverage and ‘political’ agendas - is that they never see the negative things written about others ( and yes there is loads) and politically if we are the majority and meant to be aligned with the majority, politically, how come this majority allows this ‘agenda’ to happen? My answer is because that ‘agenda’ does not exist except in the minds of a section of our supporters. We aren’t talking about negative press ya walloper. We are talking about downright lies. When you want to show us the lies printed about every other club in Scotland and it’s support please carry on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Courtyard Bear said: We aren’t talking about negative press ya walloper. We are talking about downright lies. When you want to show us the lies printed about every other club in Scotland and it’s support please carry on. Very paranoid! Kinda proves my point. Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, Bluepeter9 said: Very paranoid! Kinda proves my point. Thanks. So no list of downright lies printed about other clubs. As I thought your just a waste of oxygen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: So no list of downright lies printed about other clubs. As I thought your just a waste of oxygen. Instead of looking for others to do your work for you why not have a look yourself but first look up group thinking and confirmation bias. - if that’s to difficult for you try ‘taking off the blue tinted glasses’ - much of the perceived negativity is just minor crap picked up and magnified in the press and then magnified again on here. It happens to all clubs but we focus on us - look for the negativity that we think exists based on our group thinking - and then highlighted to confirm our thinking ( confirmation bias) while your at it - look up group polerisation - that’s what happens to dissenting voices on here! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backup 4,724 Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, Bluepeter9 said: Instead of looking for others to do your work for you why not have a look yourself but first look up group thinking and confirmation bias. - if that’s to difficult for you try ‘taking off the blue tinted glasses’ - much of the perceived negativity is just minor crap picked up and magnified in the press and then magnified again on here. It happens to all clubs but we focus on us - look for the negativity that we think exists based on our group thinking - and then highlighted to confirm our thinking ( confirmation bias) while your at it - look up group polerisation - that’s what happens to dissenting voices on here! Why not just provide facts to support your view. Billy1984 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NetherburnBear 173 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Well done to 1872 for at least doing something but It would be better if it came straight from the board, our support has become an easy target, the media has always highlighted the slightest things now we have corrupt politicians telling lies about us and our club, they all need to pulled up every time they lie and tarnish our support and club and if it came directly from Mr King and the board it would have to taken more seriously and if they did they would be respected more by us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 1 hour ago, backup said: Why not just provide facts to support your view. LOL It's like groundhog day in here (again ) - provideing 'facts' to show no agenda is like asking for facts to prove God does not exist (or does exist if that floats your boat). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 65,456 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, Bluepeter9 said: LOL It's like groundhog day in here (again ) - provideing 'facts' to show no agenda is like asking for facts to prove God does not exist (or does exist if that floats your boat). You still haven't told me where you found the poll about independence? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Bluepeter9 said: Instead of looking for others to do your work for you why not have a look yourself but first look up group thinking and confirmation bias. - if that’s to difficult for you try ‘taking off the blue tinted glasses’ - much of the perceived negativity is just minor crap picked up and magnified in the press and then magnified again on here. It happens to all clubs but we focus on us - look for the negativity that we think exists based on our group thinking - and then highlighted to confirm our thinking ( confirmation bias) while your at it - look up group polerisation - that’s what happens to dissenting voices on here! Your the one making the claim that the media prints lies about every club, so prove it. I don’t need to prove that the media prints lies about Rangers and it’s fans. Tic Toc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LochendBilly 8,416 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 2 hours ago, NetherburnBear said: Well done to 1872 for at least doing something but It would be better if it came straight from the board, our support has become an easy target, the media has always highlighted the slightest things now we have corrupt politicians telling lies about us and our club, they all need to pulled up every time they lie and tarnish our support and club and if it came directly from Mr King and the board it would have to taken more seriously and if they did they would be respected more by us. Are 1872 not just the boards puppet/Cash cow anyway? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backup 4,724 Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 58 minutes ago, Bluepeter9 said: LOL It's like groundhog day in here (again ) - provideing 'facts' to show no agenda is like asking for facts to prove God does not exist (or does exist if that floats your boat). OK thanks, that clears that up, you can't furnish any facts to support your prognosis. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NetherburnBear 173 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, LochendBilly said: Are 1872 not just the boards puppet/Cash cow anyway? Aye you could be right, just mean if a statement from King directly would be taken more seriously and the fans would feel like the club has finally grown a pair of balls and stood up for them. LochendBilly 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 3 hours ago, Bluepeter9 said: polerisation That's not a word. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
With Heart and Hand 8,949 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 18 hours ago, Negri's lovechild said: Reading the rest of the tweets there is winding me up. They really don't understand the concept of sectarianism do they? Either that or they are deliberately inflammatory sectarianism just means anything pro protestant unionist or loyalist these days You can literally shout your mouth off about the hating queen or protestants or England but say a word about the pope or ireland youre a bigot id love if some foreign independent orginization came to Scotland and investigated sectarianism and put these cunts in their place their findings would probably be that the biggest root cause of sectarianism in Scotland is apartheid school and the biggest instigator of sectarian violence is the media and SNPIRA groups and politicians Courtyard Bear and Negri's lovechild 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
With Heart and Hand 8,949 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Bluepeter9 said: LOL It's like groundhog day in here (again ) - provideing 'facts' to show no agenda is like asking for facts to prove God does not exist (or does exist if that floats your boat). i gave you 2 examples which you ignored like you always do when called out. Get off yer high horse everyone can see what a shitehawk you are Are you going to answer my points about the media saying we used our kids as shields to stop police vans or passed off hanging effigies as banter? Youre problem is you believe the media more than you do your fellow fans which is why you are in no way one of us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,650 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 anyone that thinks the papers/media etc have it in for us are stupid. They have to sell their ware so produce stories that sell. We have been the biggest story in town for 6 years. Why the fuck would they not write about us in every single detail. The cluster fuck of recent years has provided journos with a permanent bonner So lift your fucking chin On the political side why not highlight the positive side of what our politicians do in respect of Rangers? Instead of fabricating a myth that we a roundly detested Have club 1872 written to Aileen Campbell to thank her for visiting “get ready for sport” the new Rangers Charity Foundation initiative or Adam Tomlinson for raising a motion in parliament about Rangers charity involvement? no? Why not? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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