Tomatasauce 1,253 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, Grundy said: Tomata, fair comment about McCrorie but Candeias apart Pedro's signings were poor and cost us a fortune. I agree no manager gets every signing right but I,m just angry that we've lost Bates for nothing and think he could have developed into a really good player for us. OK he did look like Bambi on ice with the ball at his feet but the boy can defend much better than Alves, Cardoso, or Martin. I know it's water under the bridge but I don't think Dembele would have scored for them in the last game if Bates was still on the pitch, he wouldn't have been physically bullied like that. The Mexican boys cost us a fortune but your only talking 2 players Morelos, candeias & dorrans he had the final say over aswell he’s a wanker an your right he paid fortunes for those 2 Mexican fanjitas, alves and cardoso have been shite but in alves the pedigree was there an most of us expected a rip roaring success, cardoso was meant to be his version of Bates an it looked at first like it could be good business but again the chances he’s had he’s not took them, the less said abt dalcio the better?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,578 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 26 minutes ago, Grundy said: C'mon Keyser, that's comparing Pedro's judgement to Hamburg's, regardless if they get relegated or not. Ok point taken, probably the wrong player as an example........ Dale Gordon then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theulstervolunteer 1,859 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Obviously F.de boer doesn't fancy him to feature in our defence next season then.... ...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundy 735 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 1 minute ago, KeyserSoze said: Ok point taken, probably the wrong player as an example........ Dale Gordon then Forgot about him, still better than Windass right enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,578 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Just now, Grundy said: Forgot about him, still better than Windass right enough. my point is - Walter Smith signed him, yup arguably our greatest ever manager. He seen something in him..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomatasauce 1,253 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 1 minute ago, KeyserSoze said: my point is - Walter Smith signed him, yup arguably our greatest ever manager. He seen something in him..... Fuck being the manager of hamburg if it all goes Pete tong for big Bates ? you signed a Scottish Boy to play football ?? ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArranRfc 39 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 No that bothered about him leaving to be honest. Decent player but think we need better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StirlingBear72 476 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Must've taken us all a while here. Bates to Hamburg sounds nothing short of a bam up. Maybe just the state of the club mind you. Best of luck to the boy, a great move. Would have preferred him as a option for next season mind you but shit happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert68 74 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Good luck to the lad Hes going to a club with ambitions On a personal note, what a fkn scandal.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue 9,395 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Good move for his own development. He's done well when thrown in but he is not good enough long term for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,766 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 52 minutes ago, slimjim1690 said: anyone know how young Aiden Wilson is progressing?, he looked decent at the tail end of last season, not saying he's the answer by any means but if he has progressed he maybe in line to step up to the first team squad ala Ross McCrorrie. Think he'll be our development player promoted as 4th choice. Then there's Mccrorie. We then need two far better signings and Alves Martin and Cardoso mustn't be here as options. Big challenge for Mark Allen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,275 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Best defender we have, that's a criticism of the squad not a compliment to Bates. We need way better. Good luck to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKnight87 17,302 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: Think he'll be our development player promoted as 4th choice. Then there's Mccrorie. We then need two far better signings and Alves Martin and Cardoso mustn't be here as options. Big challenge for Mark Allen. I'm really hoping that Mark Allen have someone up his sleeve here. We need quailty at CB. Ideally we need a mix of physicality and pace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,766 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, BlueKnight87 said: I'm really hoping that Mark Allen have someone up his sleeve here. We need quailty at CB. Ideally we need a mix of physicality and pace. 2 needed imo. Or 3 if Wilson doesn't get promoted to the 1st team squad. Problem will be moving on the contracted Alves and Cardoso to free up the positions in the squad and money for salaries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornabear 6,205 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Good luck to the young lad, time will tell if it was a good move or not. We can all speculate why he is leaving, but I hope the board and/or DOF have a ready made replacement of a good standard as his replacement. Again, time will tell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKnight87 17,302 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Just now, Sportingintegritymyarse said: 2 needed imo. Or 3 if Wilson doesn't get promoted to the 1st team squad. Problem will be moving on the contracted Alves and Cardoso to free up the positions in the squad and money for salaries. Agreed we need 2. I don't think moving alves on will be a problem. He's looked checked out for month's now. I could see him heading to China or a Qatari style league after the euros. Cardoso could be more difficult to move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
don logan 8,070 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Great move for him. All the best Norman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sket 13,610 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Shows how far we have fallen when people are losing their shit over an average defender Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geronimoo 1,474 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Good luck to Bates and I hope it goes well for him, this is another situation just showing that our board are clueless and don't know their arse from their elbow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMRFC 4,786 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Bye bye Bates, fuck off?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philiprfc 1,799 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I really rate him, he's rough around the edges, but he's a good young player. It's a pretty good move for him, he might get a look in if they get relegated, and I imagine a club like Hamburg would come right back up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighouse 1,012 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 We'll come to regret this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billythebear77 10,386 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 He’s average at best ffs.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbscotty12 3,560 Posted April 12, 2018 Author Share Posted April 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bighouse said: We'll come to regret this. So will he Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSM 20,892 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 His next move will be a free transfer to Hearts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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