GA1972 9,556 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Passing is his main weakness and it isn’t anywhere near good enough for him to play as a number 10 All of his strengths make him perfectly suited to playing as a lone striker, if any of the strikers were to drop off into a number 10 role it would be Defoe who is a better passer and is much better from long range Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsasasfloppyhair 13,310 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Square pegs for round holes is what cost us at Killie Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,545 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Please Stevie don’t take any notice of this thread it’s just a discussion honestly. Please don’t take it seriously just leave things alone with the team and all will be good thank you very much Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 5 hours ago, GA1972 said: Passing is his main weakness No it's not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 8 hours ago, Ross-Gazza genius said: For me Defoe was a poor choice of signing as we're paying a hefty wage for someone to sit on the bench. How do you know much we are paying? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,725 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 24 minutes ago, plumbGER said: No it's not. I wouldn't say it's his main weakness either, but yesterday his touch, control, laying it off was terrible from start to finish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman36 3,455 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Keep the lineup as is unless we need to make changes, or maybe for cup games. It if ain't broke don't fix it. Surely Wednesday vs Sunday has shown this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,545 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: I wouldn't say it's his main weakness either, but yesterday his touch, control, laying it off was terrible from start to finish. There were a few that struggled yesterday, including Livi players who looked like they hated that pitch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Would definitely go with a 3-5-2 at Ibrox on Saturday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 59 minutes ago, bigsasasfloopyhair said: Square pegs for round holes is what cost us at Killie Gifting goals cost us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,725 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Just now, KeyserSoze said: There were a few that struggled yesterday, including Livi players who looked like they hated that pitch. Yeah, but no real footballers struggled as much to control / pass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalfollower 1,543 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Morelos is a constant hassle and headache for defenders. Move him back then it makes the oppositions day a bit easier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: I wouldn't say it's his main weakness either, but yesterday his touch, control, laying it off was terrible from start to finish. He wasn't at his best but his touch, control and lay off was decent to lay off for Arfield to set up Jack for the opener. HuistraHairDo 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Courtyard Bear said: Would definitely go with a 3-5-2 at Ibrox on Saturday. So you would drop Kent and Candeias? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,725 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, plumbGER said: He wasn't at his best but his touch, control and lay off was decent to lay off for Arfield to set up Jack for the opener. Number of times he lost possession was unlike him. Balls bouncing away from him, quite a few lay offs just really poor and not getting to their man. I'm clearly not saying all lay offs, but there were enough for it to stand out. Maybe the pitch, maybe just one of those days. He still gets pass marks from me for a decent performance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanMK 4,670 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Trying to find some sort of structured and respectful counter-argument to the OP's proposition of Morelos playing as a 10, and the most apt response I can think of is lol. ForeverAndEver 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, TMB said: So you would drop Kent and Candeias? No, Tav would get a rest along with Barisic on the bench Back 3 of Goldson (if fit) Worral Katic Same Midfield 3 as Sunday with Kent and Dan wide to give you the 5 Mo & Defoe up top. Would like to see how it went, you won’t get a better free chance than St Mitren at Ibrox, if it’s not working in the first half then change back to 4-3-3. Blue Avenger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie0202 12,273 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I don't think we should be changing anything really. Defoe is backup. Nothing more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanMK 4,670 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: No, Tav would get a rest along with Barisic on the bench Back 3 of Goldson (if fit) Worral Katic Same Midfield 3 as Sunday with Kent and Dan wide to give you the 5 Mo & Defoe up top. Would like to see how it went, you won’t get a better free chance than St Mitren at Ibrox, if it’s not working in the first half then change back to 4-3-3. I can't see this tbh. Our best play comes from overlapping full backs and some neat play on the wings. With a 3-5-2 you have the same problem we had against Kilmarnock. Focusing all your efforts through the middle unless your wingers can consistently get by their man. I'd go with a simple 442 if it's an easier game. Much easier to ditch it for a 433 in the second half by dropping out a striker for a midfielder. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, DeanMK said: I can't see this tbh. Our best play comes from overlapping full backs and some neat play on the wings. With a 3-5-2 you have the same problem we had against Kilmarnock. Focusing all your efforts through the middle unless your wingers can consistently get by their man. I'd go with a simple 442 if it's an easier game. Much easier to ditch it for a 433 in the second half by dropping out a striker for a midfielder. We played a 442 at Killie with Kent in the front of a midfield diamond and I agree with absolutely no width. With the 5 you have Dan and Kent playing wide. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Lone striker is where the buffalo is most effective in our 4-5-1 system , for the good of the team Defoe will just need to sit on the bench unless it’s games like Cowdenbeath where a change of system should still be ok to win the game and even Saturday at home against St Mirren , every away game and every big home game has to be the system we’ve had the most joy from like yesterday Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanMK 4,670 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Just now, Courtyard Bear said: We played a 442 at Killie with Kent in the front of a midfield diamond and I agree with absolutely no width. With the 5 you have Dan and Kent playing wide. Aye, I'm meaning the more traditional 442 with two wide midfielders. That way you maintain the width and overlapping and you can have the two up top. Shouldn't need a holding mid against teams like St Mirren at home. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,610 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 We do not score enough goals that's why the system does not work that's the first time we have scored 3 league goals since the last game on the 24th of November against Livi. Blue Avenger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 35 minutes ago, DeanMK said: Aye, I'm meaning the more traditional 442 with two wide midfielders. That way you maintain the width and overlapping and you can have the two up top. Shouldn't need a holding mid against teams like St Mirren at home. Got you mate, aye if they where to play that way it would be worth a look as well. We need to find an alternative to 4-3-3 because we have already seen this season it doesn’t always work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackAlex93 11,273 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 15 hours ago, The Beast said: Given the challenge of incorporating Defoe into the established team formation and our lack (before today) of goals from midfield. Should we look at playing Morelos as a number 10? As a very attacking midfielder breaking into the box and taking chances. His natural game sees him foraging deeper and wider than a natural penalty box player like Defoe and some of the advanced ball winning he does is excellent. If we have Defoe playing as a number 9 then could we play Morelos as a 10 rather than trying to shoehorn a two up top system that doesn't suit us? Don't try fix something that isn't broken. Alfredo is doing just fine where he is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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