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14 minutes ago, scottyscott1963 said:

Kevin,Micheal,Paul and Pat was enough for me.
bastards will be sitting in their plush offices chuckling to themselves.

they could easily be all taigs .but reckon its a party politics decision as its a labour tarrier making the complaint 

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7 minutes ago, magic8ball said:

they could easily be all taigs .but reckon its a party politics decision as its a labour tarrier making the complaint 

Once they see the images of Big Francis the freeloading bastard at Ibrox,he will get chased by the panel.
 

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Onslaught ffs

That letter to Rangers, was that already out in public during the fanzone debacle or is this new info?  I remember Robertson referring to reporting them last year for sharing confidential info and his private contact details.

I would like to think our board would try and stand up for the fans here :dunno:

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with the sudden explosive popularity in SNP and more importantly the vast amount of positions they have had to fill their talent pool is massively diluted .

Anybody from the other large parties caught with their pants down like this would have had the savvy to have resigned by now.

unless of course she knows the complaints commision are already in her pocket 

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Starting to slip down, not a lot of interest it would appear now, another view below anyway.

 

There is a grubby democracy at the heart of Glasgow politics that blights its ambition to become a mecca of sporting excellence.


How can SNP council leader Susan Aitken promote the country’s biggest city as a centre of sport when she has a major issue with one of its major football institutions?


What other conclusion can be drawn after revelations of her cack-handed attempt to smear Labour rival Frank McAveety?

celtic fan McAveety accepted an invite from Rangers, in his role as then leader of the council, to take in a game from the Ibrox directors’ box for the Championship clash with Hibs a few seasons ago.

It’s fair to conclude he didn’t burst into a chorus of Follow Follow but McAveety knows how his city works and has won a reputation over many decades as an honest broker in his dealings with both clubs.

His attendance at Ibrox was no more extraordinary than a local councillor, MSP or MP accepting an invite to Parkhead, Pittodrie or Penicuik Athletic to maintain courteous relationships.

Aitken was guilty of a cack-handed attempt to smear McAveety, argues Gary Ralston
Why then did Aitken, at the height of the Ibrox fanzone controversy earlier this season, seek to belittle McAveety by asking fellow SNP councillors, in a closed Facebook group, to get “these nice photos...out there”?

Why is the attendance of an elected representative, irrespective of their political hue, worthy of scorn if they’re spotted at the home of one of the country’s two biggest clubs?

It’s a question those higher up the SNP chain than Aitken would do well to confront.

The fact a group of city councillors set up a closed social media discussion group, with all the transparency of a brick wall, is bad enough.


Frank McAveety says the city will get much needed investment (Image: SNS Group)
Try emailing Mark Zuckerberg with a freedom of information request and see how far you get.

Atken’s lack of discipline and political nous and the vibe of recklessness she has given off in her dealings with Rangers - like celtic, a major employer in the city - discredits her office.

This paper was the first to reveal the controversy around the involvement of Aitken and her deputy David McDonald in the decision to deny Rangers a fanzone at Ibrox earlier this season.

 

Council's backtracking over Rangers fanzone is of Olympic standard - Gary Ralston


Aitken and McDonald have never given a convincing response to claims they intervened in the application at a meeting on August 1, outside of due process for a quasi-judicial hearing.

The very next day Glasgow Life withdrew their permission for use of their facility across the road from the stadium and a licensing committee hearing scheduled for August 6 was promptly cancelled.

Aitken was reported to the commissioner for ethical standards by Glasgow MSP Adam Tomkins for that one and McAveety has also gone to the door of the watchdog in light of her latest blunder.


Rangers want their fans to enjoy a fanzone (Image: SNS Group)
She really should consider her position, but don’t hold your breath and in the meantime look out for her extolling Glasgow’s reputation as a European capital of sport in the coming months.


Euro 2020 is just around the corner - in Aitken’s Langside ward, no less - and she’ll be pictured pressing the flesh at Hampden and speaking of the city’s historic sporting past.

The SNP have dismissed her Facebook post about McAveety as a “joke” but Kevin Bridges will hardly be rushing to pick up on her one liners.

As gags go, this one ceased to be funny a long time ago.

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Next Tuesday will decide the fate of the fat fenian fucker.

 

The SNP Glasgow councillors group will meet next Tuesday to decide the fate of Council Leader Susan Aitken.

The signs are not good for her despite her previously strong position - mostly due to her being part of Nichola Sturgeon’s magic circle.

A leaked screen-grab of a plot hatched on a secret SNP councillors Facebook page to smear Labour leader Frank McAveety has caused other councillors to seek action. Additionally, her seeming interaction with Humza Yusuf outside of various ministerial and local authority codes of conduct is also undermining her.

Last week at an informal SNP councillors group meeting and at the SNP Glasgow Regional Association she was under attack from colleagues. It can be summed up by one moderate councillor’s comments which can be summarised this - ‘I didn’t join the SNP to have my days filled with rubbish about Rangers, the Orange Order and the IRA.’ Aitken’s obsessions are coming home to roost.

Interestingly the attacks are coming from all sides of the SNP - Aitken has a key “payroll vote” chunk of support from councillors looking for advancement within the council and the SNP, they tend to be younger and more extreme in their politics. Even one of those younger councillors is now openly lobbying against her.

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Club 1872 release. 

 

Club 1872 has today written to Glasgow City Council Leader, Susan Aitken, regarding press reports of her comments in a closed Facebook group for Glasgow SNP councillors.

A copy of the letter is below and we look forward to receiving a timely reply from Councillor Aitken to what we consider to be a very serious matter.

“Dear Councillor Aitken,

I am writing to you on behalf of Club 1872, a Rangers supporters group with over 7000 members and the second largest shareholder in Rangers International Football Club PLC, regarding comments you made in a closed Facebook group (Glasgow City SNP Councillors) which have been the subject of recent press reports.

As you may be aware, we have submitted a Freedom of Information request in the past few days for everything posted in that group relating to Rangers FC and Club 1872. It appears that the group was being used to discuss council business that should have been subject to our previous FOI enquiry, but no posts from that group were included in the response to our previous request.

What we know already is that you used the group to ask fellow SNP Councillors to share a photograph of Labour Councillor, Frank McAveety attending a match at Ibrox in 2015. This appears to be in response to comments made by Mr McAveety about your role in denying Rangers the opportunity to host a Fanzone at Ibrox in 2018.

Can you clarify why you believed this photo to be relevant to those matters and explain why you felt it appropriate to ask SNP Councillors to share this information publicly? Is it your belief that Mr McAveety’s attendance at Ibrox should be portrayed in a negative light? If so, perhaps you can explain why? Many elected officials attend sporting events throughout Glasgow and it is disturbing that you appear to believe that attendance at Ibrox is something which should be frowned upon.

Mr McAveety is a well known celtic supporter, and therefore any suggestion that he attended the match at Ibrox to gain favour from Rangers, or vice versa, would be ridiculous. Your decision to focus on this one event appears to have been motivated by a desire to cast doubt on Mr McAveety’s legitimate criticisms and divert attention from questions about your own conduct where Rangers Football Club is concerned.

Rangers Football Club is a major employer in Glasgow and works extensively to positively support communities in Govan, Glasgow and throughout Scotland. The many thousands of Rangers supporters who live in the Glasgow area should be able to rely on elected officials to treat them and their football club fairly at all times. Furthermore, those in public life who question conduct that appears to be unfair or discriminatory should be able to do so freely without being smeared in an attempt to discredit their input.

Yours sincerely,

Laura Fawkes

Club 1872 Director

On behalf of the Club 1872 board”

Issued by Supporters Voice Limited, a Club 1872 company

 

http://club1872.co.uk/news/club-1872-letter-to-councillor-susan-aitken/

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5 hours ago, SonOfLuther said:

What we know already is that you used the group to ask fellow SNP Councillors to share a photograph of Labour Councillor, Frank McAveety attending a match at Ibrox in 2015. This appears to be in response to comments made by Mr McAveety about your role in denying Rangers the opportunity to host a Fanzone at Ibrox in 2018.

 Can you clarify why you believed this photo to be relevant to those matters and explain why you felt it appropriate to ask SNP Councillors to share this information publicly? Is it your belief that Mr McAveety’s attendance at Ibrox should be portrayed in a negative light? If so, perhaps you can explain why? Many elected officials attend sporting events throughout Glasgow and it is disturbing that you appear to believe that attendance at Ibrox is something which should be frowned upon.

The Rangers board should be asking the questions, but I am grateful that club 1872 have grasped the mettle.

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45 minutes ago, backup said:

The Rangers board should be asking the questions, but I am grateful that club 1872 have grasped the mettle.

2 political parties are on this, Our major fans group also with the Orange Order still to comment.

When they do, it will be political, religious and civil organisations wanting answers.

I'm sure the Club will have something to say officially in time.

Just doesn't have to be straight away I don't think.

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, SonOfLuther said:

Club 1872 release. 

 

Club 1872 has today written to Glasgow City Council Leader, Susan Aitken, regarding press reports of her comments in a closed Facebook group for Glasgow SNP councillors.

A copy of the letter is below and we look forward to receiving a timely reply from Councillor Aitken to what we consider to be a very serious matter.

“Dear Councillor Aitken,

I am writing to you on behalf of Club 1872, a Rangers supporters group with over 7000 members and the second largest shareholder in Rangers International Football Club PLC, regarding comments you made in a closed Facebook group (Glasgow City SNP Councillors) which have been the subject of recent press reports.

As you may be aware, we have submitted a Freedom of Information request in the past few days for everything posted in that group relating to Rangers FC and Club 1872. It appears that the group was being used to discuss council business that should have been subject to our previous FOI enquiry, but no posts from that group were included in the response to our previous request.

What we know already is that you used the group to ask fellow SNP Councillors to share a photograph of Labour Councillor, Frank McAveety attending a match at Ibrox in 2015. This appears to be in response to comments made by Mr McAveety about your role in denying Rangers the opportunity to host a Fanzone at Ibrox in 2018.

Can you clarify why you believed this photo to be relevant to those matters and explain why you felt it appropriate to ask SNP Councillors to share this information publicly? Is it your belief that Mr McAveety’s attendance at Ibrox should be portrayed in a negative light? If so, perhaps you can explain why? Many elected officials attend sporting events throughout Glasgow and it is disturbing that you appear to believe that attendance at Ibrox is something which should be frowned upon.

Mr McAveety is a well known celtic supporter, and therefore any suggestion that he attended the match at Ibrox to gain favour from Rangers, or vice versa, would be ridiculous. Your decision to focus on this one event appears to have been motivated by a desire to cast doubt on Mr McAveety’s legitimate criticisms and divert attention from questions about your own conduct where Rangers Football Club is concerned.

Rangers Football Club is a major employer in Glasgow and works extensively to positively support communities in Govan, Glasgow and throughout Scotland. The many thousands of Rangers supporters who live in the Glasgow area should be able to rely on elected officials to treat them and their football club fairly at all times. Furthermore, those in public life who question conduct that appears to be unfair or discriminatory should be able to do so freely without being smeared in an attempt to discredit their input.

Yours sincerely,

Laura Fawkes

Club 1872 Director

On behalf of the Club 1872 board”

Issued by Supporters Voice Limited, a Club 1872 company

 

http://club1872.co.uk/news/club-1872-letter-to-councillor-susan-aitken/

Cou-le of points. 1. Why did Club1872 let Laura Fawkes to sign this letter? She’s an active Labour Party member. Someone else should have signed.

2. SPAD made a stupid mistake by stating there were no go areas in Glasgow for Protestants, that’s just daft apart from being untrue.

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4 minutes ago, BeargerNo.1 said:

Cou-le of points. 1. Why did Club1872 let Laura Fawkes to sign this letter? She’s an active Labour Party member. Someone else should have signed.

2. SPAD made a stupid mistake by stating there were no go areas in Glasgow for Protestants, that’s just daft apart from being untrue.

Why shouldn't she sign it? She's a director is she not?

Abercrombie St area is a no go area to parades.

Daft to suggest that isn't true.

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20 minutes ago, SonOfLuther said:

Why shouldn't she sign it? She's a director is she not?

Abercrombie St area is a no go area to parades.

Daft to suggest that isn't true.

Yes she’s a director, but Club1872 are leaving themselves open to accusations of party politics.  A Street may be or not be a no go area for a parade, that does not make it a no go area for Protestants, a big difference..

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1 minute ago, BeargerNo.1 said:

Yes she’s a director, but Club1872 are leaving themselves open to accusations of party politics.  A Street may be or not be a no go area for a parade, that does not make it a no go area for Protestants, a big difference..

I don't speak for Club 1872 but I see no wrong here.

A street that is a no go area for Protestant parades is a no go zone for a significant number of Protestants however it's dressed up.

Catholics won't let Protestants be Protestants.

And they won't let up, chip, chip..

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13 minutes ago, BeargerNo.1 said:

Yes she’s a director, but Club1872 are leaving themselves open to accusations of party politics.  A Street may be or not be a no go area for a parade, that does not make it a no go area for Protestants, a big difference..

This is a no go area for taigs yet you’re still here !!

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On 04/05/2019 at 23:40, Dickie said:

This is a no go area for taigs yet you’re still here !!

Dearie me, this is what it’s come to for some. Don't agree with a fellow fan so insults fly. For your information I’m a life member of Club1872 and before that RST right from the start, does not make me any more a fan or less of a fan than you.

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On 04/05/2019 at 23:37, SonOfLuther said:

I don't speak for Club 1872 but I see no wrong here.

A street that is a no go area for Protestant parades is a no go zone for a significant number of Protestants however it's dressed up.

Catholics won't let Protestants be Protestants.

And they won't let up, chip, chip..

Again I will repeat this as it is massively important.

Our Protestant churches are empty and crumbling but no one is giving a fuck.  If people actually genuinely cared about our faith (those who are Protestant) they would be in church and living as such.

It is an absolute travesty that this is happening. 

Our forefathers fought and died to be able to worship in this way and no one is doing fuck all . 

There needs to be an education for some who do not even know what Protestant is, what unionist is and what loyalist is.

It's embarrassing 

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