RFC55 108,969 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Just now, mitre_mouldmaster said: It really isnt. It is just how language works. A fenian was a revolutionary nationalist hunners of years ago. That is where the word came from. In this day and age, 99% of the usage of the word is us calling them fenians, or them referring to themselves as fenians. They are no longer armed revolutionary nationalist (well most of them anyway), so the word is being used in 99% of cases to refer to celtic fans / catholics. Therefore the meaning of the word has actually changed naturally. More truth in that than for Catholics tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabc10000 5,061 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 minute ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: It really isnt. It is just how language works. A fenian was a revolutionary nationalist hunners of years ago. That is where the word came from. In this day and age, 99% of the usage of the word is us calling them fenians, or them referring to themselves as fenians. They are no longer armed revolutionary nationalist (well most of them anyway), so the word is being used in 99% of cases to refer to celtic fans / catholics. Therefore the meaning of the word has actually changed naturally. Almost culturally changed one would say yes?? Almost exclusive to Scotland and Ireland as well I presume?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: It really isnt. It is just how language works. A fenian was a revolutionary nationalist hunners of years ago. That is where the word came from. In this day and age, 99% of the usage of the word is us calling them fenians, or them referring to themselves as fenians. They are no longer armed revolutionary nationalist (well most of them anyway), so the word is being used in 99% of cases to refer to celtic fans / catholics. Therefore the meaning of the word has actually changed naturally. And celtic fan's ira sympathies are pretty well known Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted August 23, 2019 Author Share Posted August 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Fuck up, eh? The club want people to pay money (more than they should) and sit down and shut up. Usually a decent poster until this despite me agreeing with you the last time fenian was debated. Im taking a fair bit of abuse from this thread. If folk are gonna get upset about getting a little back, then they have to toughen up. Cunts are sitting here defiantly implying that they are going to go down a route which will see the club thrown out of Europe. As far as I am concerned anyone who thinks this can fuck off and as far as I am concerned, they are an enemy of the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,606 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 There you have it plain as day in black and white. They don't care about one word. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewgardiner88 317 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Fenians were not strictly Catholics... One of the first fenian leaders was a Protestant, Wolfe Tone. Our history books are getting re written. Exactly the same as the troubles in NI where the 'IRA martyrs' are called heroes and freedom fighters and our brave soldiers and police who were blown up killed and maimed, along with thousands of protestant civilians are seen as the antagonists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35 Yard Dangerman 3,476 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, SpicyJelly said: That's the pecking order sorted then Berti big baws Now think yourself lucky I don't kick your baws 😂 Go home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRUTH82 813 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 I still can't get my head around those who won't let this go and just stop singing it, what is it they want to happen? I mean, not just "I want the board to stand up for us", what have they to do and how do they go about it? Is that more important than seeing our team on the park? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,606 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 I can be a fenian even though I'm not a catholic. Can someone explain that riddle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle 53,600 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 We know what they are. They know what they are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Just now, BridgeIsBlue said: I can be a fenian even though I'm not a catholic. Can someone explain that riddle. Jeremy Corbyn? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sket 13,610 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: Listen to the club, they dont want the likes of you any more. You should go support someone else. Who the fuck are you to dictate who can and can't support the club? Fucking scab. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tayside 295 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: Listen to the club, they dont want the likes of you any more. You should go support someone else. Aye but they wanted us in the 1980's and in Lower divisions but all of a sudden they don't want us , fuck them this is my club not theirs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT 30,449 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, drewgardiner88 said: Fenians were not strictly Catholics... One of the first fenian leaders was a Protestant, Wolfe Tone. Our history books are getting re written. Exactly the same as the troubles in NI where the 'IRA martyrs' are called heroes and freedom fighters and our brave soldiers and police who were blown up killed and maimed, along with thousands of protestant civilians are seen as the antagonists. Exactly. In one instance we’ve got our board and even our own fans accepting and letting it happen. Sorry, it’s happened they have let it happen and another instance we have our own government letting it happen aswell. Disgraceful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Some of our support sadden me. We were almost whiter than whiter for years hardly a wrong word and we got battered from pillar to post by those Fenian cunts and their apologists in the media. If anyone thinks not singing the word Fenian means they won’t or can’t attack our club you are sadly deluded and need a reality check. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabc10000 5,061 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: Im taking a fair bit of abuse from this thread. If folk are gonna get upset about getting a little back, then they have to toughen up. Cunts are sitting here defiantly implying that they are going to go down a route which will see the club thrown out of Europe. As far as I am concerned anyone who thinks this can fuck off and as far as I am concerned, they are an enemy of the club. As I said at the time you started this thread for one particular reason and that was to create a divide and cause arguments and it looks like you have done so in spectacular fashion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35 Yard Dangerman 3,476 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Just now, SpicyJelly said: Nae baw hair dangerman I've literally got nae baw hair You're Mrs isnae a fan of big hairy baws at all mate 😂 Deary me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomatasauce 1,253 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 26 minutes ago, left winger said: The same lawyers doing such a stand up job against fat mike, no doubt. Anybody know who represents us lawyer wise, they cunts would get you six month for a parking ticket Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT 30,449 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, STRUTH82 said: I still can't get my head around those who won't let this go and just stop singing it, what is it they want to happen? I mean, not just "I want the board to stand up for us", what have they to do and how do they go about it? Is that more important than seeing our team on the park? Because our fucking culture and history is being chipped away and has been for over 30 years and if you’re happy with that we’ll then you’re a mug. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulboy 2,518 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 34 minutes ago, chris182 said: They'd have to buy at least a couple thousand to make it noiseworthy, I know they are obsessed but that's a bit far fetched 😆 This is the reason clubs don't want strict liability in the league because they know this would happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabc10000 5,061 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Just now, GOAT said: Because our fucking culture and history is being chipped away and has been for over 30 years and if you’re happy with that we’ll then you’re a mug. Sad part is it's not just our club as such it's literally everything as well outwith the club. They are destroying and trying to erase everything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.E.C. 18,790 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 That’s a bit creepy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT 30,449 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, rabc10000 said: Sad part is it's not just our club as such it's literally everything as well outwith the club. They are destroying and trying to erase everything It’s happened for the last 30 years and we’ve let it, the clubs let it, the PUL community has let it. Now it’s probably too late to fight back. Sad times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spliffy 643 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Right now? Thursday? This season? Absolutely fucking not. It is naïve at best to assume that FARcE/UEFA etc will distinguish a difference, and completely retarded to think everyone will sing any new version. Get our house in order is the only option we have. A quote from FF, "we didn't come back from the brink of extinction to let this ruin us." Maybe, MAYBE in years to come if we are whiter than white then a concerted effort can be made on lyric changes. But in all honesty, it's almost certainly best, and easiest, to leave these songs/chants/add ons in the past. It does us no good whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 hours ago, thedarvelmarvel said: were they not a republican political party? Fill your boots. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenian_Brotherhood Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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