ZZed 4,510 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 This is going to get messy Lovely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 8 hours ago, British_Empire said: Is it even legal for clubs to give financial backing to the 3 of them for issues like that? surely it's conflict of interests and would eat the last remaining pieces of the Scottish game inside out. I've still never heard one good reason why null-and-void isn't/couldn't/shouldn't have been an issue. Not one. Heard plenty of excuses, but not one good reason. There is a good reason null and void wasn’t happening ,they refused to discuss it ,I’m fucked if I know why they refused to discuss it though maybe TV companies were wanting refunds for games not played ,that would have been a good few quid ,maybe upto 10m ,the clubs couldn’t take that risk in these unprecedented times 🙄 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelsonRFC82 305 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 13 clubs voted for an independent inquiry in to SPFL board, if any of them vote to hand executive powers to same board then they surely there are some questions to be answered there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 10 hours ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: The targeted trio have been given the backing of several other sides – and told by at least two big-name clubs they would be willing to help financially if the action moves to the next stage A source told Record Sport: “There is a sizable group of clubs who have been disgusted by the behaviour of Hearts and Partick Thistle. They have given their backing to Dundee United, Raith Rovers and Cove Rangers. “Several clubs have offered their support. At the moment it is moral support but if the case goes to the next stage in the Court of Sessions, there are one or two who have offered financial backing as well Corrupt to the core, a bit like the proposed spfl resolution. Maybe chip in their 50k from the Hearts benefactor That benefactor really has more money than sense giving away money to clubs who voted his club down ,Did he think that such generous actions would curry favour ,Not with these scavenging bastards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, magic8ball said: Maybe chip in their 50k from the Hearts benefactor That benefactor really has more money than sense giving away money to clubs who voted his club down ,Did he think that such generous actions would curry favour ,Not with these scavenging bastards Astounding arrogance from the guy .It never worked .I bet he feels a complete tit now .He is rich enough, probably never to admit that though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Will someone please explain why anyone and everyone could discuss our tax case before court proceedings .Yet we can’t not discuss the bheasts situation 🤔 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley Blue Loyal 11,178 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, eejay the dj said: Will someone please explain why anyone and everyone could discuss our tax case before court proceedings .Yet we can’t not discuss the bheasts situation 🤔 Tax specialists especially in the East end of Glasgow are 10 a penny would be my guess whilst Child Abuse experts not so much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 17 minutes ago, Paisley Blue Loyal said: Tax specialists especially in the East end of Glasgow are 10 a penny would be my guess whilst Child Abuse experts not so much. 😄😄😄😄 post of the morning mate .Brilliant 🤣 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brubear 2,920 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 9 hours ago, TamCoopz said: The big thing why we couldn’t null and void was the tv money I think but that was it, we were told we could call the season and all was fine and dandy after all the clubs had voted the resolution corrupt bastards The SPFL board said it would cost £10m in compensation to the TV companies for null and void. The important thing is what they didn't say and that is that it would also cost £10m to finish the leagues on a PPG basis. This was one of the issues we wanted an independent review to look at. Think about it, why would the TV companies be bothered if it was null and void or PPG, all they were concerned with was the inability to cover the remaining games and their loss of revenue from subscriptions and advertising. The SPFL have now reduced the revenues for the new sky deal by £1.5m per season (£7.5m) and agreed a settlement with BT for £2.3m (they were claiming £3m) so PPG has effectively also cost £10m. BBC still to be settled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
British_Empire 9,648 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, magic8ball said: There is a good reason null and void wasn’t happening ,they refused to discuss it ,I’m fucked if I know why they refused to discuss it though maybe TV companies were wanting refunds for games not played ,that would have been a good few quid ,maybe upto 10m ,the clubs couldn’t take that risk in these unprecedented times 🙄 that's the "excuses" I was talking about. There's games not played regardless if it's called early or null and void. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,728 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Brubear said: The SPFL board said it would cost £10m in compensation to the TV companies for null and void. The important thing is what they didn't say and that is that it would also cost £10m to finish the leagues on a PPG basis. This was one of the issues we wanted an independent review to look at. Think about it, why would the TV companies be bothered if it was null and void or PPG, all they were concerned with was the inability to cover the remaining games and their loss of revenue from subscriptions and advertising. The SPFL have now reduced the revenues for the new sky deal by £1.5m per season (£7.5m) and agreed a settlement with BT for £2.3m (they were claiming £3m) so PPG has effectively also cost £10m. BBC still to be settled. Sky is getting back £1.5m over 5 seasons so £300k a season plus the sponsorship naming rights for free worth anywhere between £1.5m to £2m a season. BT have got back £2.3m but that has been disputed since it was originally £4.5m. BBC Scotland and international TV are due money back also. Then theres the upcoming compensation for Hearts and Partick. Going to be well north of the £10m we quoted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,647 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 All of a sudden we have big clubs everywhere in Scotland eh amazing that. I doubt anyone is raging at hearts and partick for trying to defend themselves against a unjust relegation ffs. What are people expecting of them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley Blue Loyal 11,178 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 minute ago, KingKirk said: All of a sudden we have big clubs everywhere in Scotland eh amazing that. I doubt anyone is raging at hearts and partick for trying to defend themselves against a unjust relegation ffs. What are people expecting of them Mibee it’s big clubs like Hamilton and Alloa that are raging with chairman such as Les Gray and Mike Mulraney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GersInCanada 7,775 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, eejay the dj said: Will someone please explain why anyone and everyone could discuss our tax case before court proceedings .Yet we can’t not discuss the bheasts situation 🤔 The case is reported on the BBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-53168200 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,647 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Partick have been relegated on the basis they hadn't played same number of games as everyone. How can anyone consider that remotely fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assegai 7,847 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 minute ago, KingKirk said: Partick have been relegated on the basis they hadn't played same number of games as everyone. How can anyone consider that remotely fair. Especially when you consider that the reason they hadn't is they'd gone further in a cup competition. Behold the awful price of success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,796 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, KingKirk said: All of a sudden we have big clubs everywhere in Scotland eh amazing that. I doubt anyone is raging at hearts and partick for trying to defend themselves against a unjust relegation ffs. What are people expecting of them That will be a Holycon.con special KK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TamCoopz 19,605 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 2 hours ago, eejay the dj said: Will someone please explain why anyone and everyone could discuss our tax case before court proceedings .Yet we can’t not discuss the bheasts situation 🤔 No reason for us to talk about it, we know what’s gone on. Let the courts deal with it and hope justice prevails Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Hobbs 2,171 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 How long does it take for the credit agreement to come through? It's been a few years since I've paid that way but usually it was immediate. I've had my confirmation email from the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsitgoing 4,281 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53180650 The court action taken against the SPFL by Hearts and Partick Thistle will be heard at the Court of Session in Edinburgh next Tuesday. The initial hearing will take place via video conference from 10:00 BST. The SPFL - along with Dundee United, Raith Rovers and Cove Rangers - had until today to respond to the petition. Hearts and Thistle are challenging their respective demotions from the Premiership and Championship after the season ended early because of Covid-19. United, Raith and Cove were declared winners of the Championship, League One and League Two and the petition asked for a judge to scrap promotions and relegations for last season. The action came after SPFL clubs failed to support the league's proposal for reconstruction, which would have kept Hearts, Thistle and League One bottom side Stranraer up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,796 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 35 minutes ago, Howsitgoing said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53180650 The court action taken against the SPFL by Hearts and Partick Thistle will be heard at the Court of Session in Edinburgh next Tuesday. The initial hearing will take place via video conference from 10:00 BST. The SPFL - along with Dundee United, Raith Rovers and Cove Rangers - had until today to respond to the petition. Hearts and Thistle are challenging their respective demotions from the Premiership and Championship after the season ended early because of Covid-19. United, Raith and Cove were declared winners of the Championship, League One and League Two and the petition asked for a judge to scrap promotions and relegations for last season. The action came after SPFL clubs failed to support the league's proposal for reconstruction, which would have kept Hearts, Thistle and League One bottom side Stranraer up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essandoh 21,208 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 See even just reading back the teams that were awarded the title and are now being challenged, but realising that lot have fled into the distance with what they wanted and no opposition? Makes me feel so disappointed. I don’t think I’ll ever look at Scottish football the same way I did before this pandemic. Even then, my belief in it was waning significantly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,728 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 24 minutes ago, Essandoh said: See even just reading back the teams that were awarded the title and are now being challenged, but realising that lot have fled into the distance with what they wanted and no opposition? Makes me feel so disappointed. I don’t think I’ll ever look at Scottish football the same way I did before this pandemic. Even then, my belief in it was waning significantly. If all other 41 clubs, the SPFL, the SFA and everything associated with Scottish Football went extinct I will be giving zero fucks now. Focus on one club and one club only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 The SPFL getting taken to court, the spuds going to court for enabling paedos and the cover up. Rangers need to sit back, crack open a beer and watch the fire burn. Scottish football is going to be in shit order after this and Rangers may come out of this in a relatively good state when compared to the rest. The spuds may well come out of this as thee club to be shunned in Scotland and Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,723 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, ZZed said: The SPFL getting taken to court, the spuds going to court for enabling paedos and the cover up. Rangers need to sit back, crack open a beer and watch the fire burn. Scottish football is going to be in shit order after this and Rangers may come out of this in a relatively good state when compared to the rest. The spuds may well come out of this as thee club to be shunned in Scotland and Europe. This is a national societal issue mate and involves a lot more than football. There's political, judicial, religious dark arts in play here and there's huge hurdles to overcome before we can say our position has significantly strengthened or the other mob's has worsened / they are held to account. A long way to go before I get the cigars out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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