Cedrick 8,048 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dan Deacon said: Its not a normal season. Club have us over a barrel. Don't see the point in moaning. If they can sell to non st holders and get money great. Need to agree to disagree mate 👍🏻 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lockin 3,940 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 10 hours ago, ElBufalo20 said: Why did you renew then when you knew you wouldn’t realistically be in the stadium til January? You really are just being petty now. You’re happy to invest in the club in whatever way possible surely? I renewed more in hope than expectation of getting into games - never though I was going to get ripped off AGAIN by the club - this £9.99 for anyone is a fuckin disgrace - charge what you would pay to get into the game, a lot fairer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lockin 3,940 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 9 hours ago, dougal72 said: More money to the club means more signings like Roofe , Itten , Kent and Hagi. Not many are going to buy at £28 a game. Surely no one expects the club to turn down a lucrative revenue stream because we decided to renew season tickets in full knowledge we may not get to games. Selling to others at £9.99 doesn't effect me or other season ticket holders at all. Season ticket holders are paying that at least - charge the non-season ticket holders the same after all they'll be watching the players you mentioned Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lockin 3,940 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 10 hours ago, ElBufalo20 said: No you are if you think the club should charge upwards of £30 for a ppv game they're doing it to season ticket holders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,871 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Lord Lockin said: Season ticket holders are paying that at least - charge the non-season ticket holders the same after all they'll be watching the players you mentioned If u went into the ticket office and a st.mirren was £28 you'd need to pay it or u couldn't go. Sadly in the modern world not everyone can afford to go to the football. Its the value of my season ticket am talking about There can't be a £18 difference between what season tickets pay per game and PPV the PPV price is set to low. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,871 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 I wonder if after this pandemic the blackout rule at 3pm will be done away with and VST might become away of making another few million every year for clubs in Scotland(that can afford to run it). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lockin 3,940 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Hypothetical point here - say we could get into a game, let's say St Mirren, St Mirren board tell Rangers they've sold hardly any tickets, charge our fans £9.99 to get in and we'll sell our full allocation - would that be okay - naw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,429 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 9 hours ago, Cedrick said: I canny get my heed round non season ticket holders can buy the full of August for a pound less than I’m paying for ST Mirren on Sunday , nobody will convince me that’s right 😂 You've bought your ST snd retained your seat. Covid prevents it currently obviously but you are paying for the right of entry and guaranteed ticket. The club are facilitating you seeing the game free of charge whilst charging others. I paid my money on the above basis, to ensure we're as competitive as we can be. With no guarantees. I assume many others did too. The club now have to optimise sales from non ST holders and clearly think a tenner is the best price. Fair dos. If it were a financial decision I'd seek refund on my ST and get a stream, but its not. Its about paying what I would have paid, buying mygers and merchandise, and being delighted at the new signings I'm helping us afford, not challenging my spend and what I'm personally getting in return. There's others paying far more than me getting the same out of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lockin 3,940 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 15 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: You've bought your ST snd retained your seat. Covid prevents it currently obviously but you are paying for the right of entry and guaranteed ticket. The club are facilitating you seeing the game free of charge whilst charging others. I paid my money on the above basis, to ensure we're as competitive as we can be. With no guarantees. I assume many others did too. The club now have to optimise sales from non ST holders and clearly think a tenner is the best price. Fair dos. If it were a financial decision I'd seek refund on my ST and get a stream, but its not. Its about paying what I would have paid, buying mygers and merchandise, and being delighted at the new signings I'm helping us afford, not challenging my spend and what I'm personally getting in return. There's others paying far more than me getting the same out of it. Agree with all you say - well almost Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,429 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Lord Lockin said: Agree with all you say - well almost Do you agree the club should optimise the price for maximum sales? If so, and they think a tenner is that figure, what's wrong with that? The ST money is banked or due to be, its that money that allows us to plan for the season. This is a seperate revenue stream. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lockin 3,940 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 44 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Do you agree the club should optimise the price for maximum sales? If so, and they think a tenner is that figure, what's wrong with that? The ST money is banked or due to be, its that money that allows us to plan for the season. This is a seperate revenue stream. A season ticket holder paying at least three times what a non-season ticket holders paying to watch the same game - nobody in their right mind can say that's okay. This like a lot of things happening at the club just proves they don't give a fuck about the support . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 43,759 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Lord Lockin said: A season ticket holder paying at least three times what a non-season ticket holders paying to watch the same game - nobody in their right mind can say that's okay. This like a lot of things happening at the club just proves they don't give a fuck about the support . So what do you think should happen? Games cost £30 for PPV? Season ticket holders get money back? Club compensate with a complimentary shirt or voucher for Castore stuff? What's your answer to solve it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 hour ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Do you agree the club should optimise the price for maximum sales? If so, and they think a tenner is that figure, what's wrong with that? The ST money is banked or due to be, its that money that allows us to plan for the season. This is a seperate revenue stream. When we’re back public sale should be a tenner mate coz this is exactly the same thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lockin 3,940 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, esquire8 said: So what do you think should happen? Games cost £30 for PPV? Season ticket holders get money back? Club compensate with a complimentary shirt or voucher for Castore stuff? What's your answer to solve it? I'd charge £25 - give them a wee discount for being loyal fans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, esquire8 said: So what do you think should happen? Games cost £30 for PPV? Season ticket holders get money back? Club compensate with a complimentary shirt or voucher for Castore stuff? What's your answer to solve it? £18 more for season ticket holders to watch Sunday than a non season ticket holder is ridiculous, it should be £28 minimum for non season ticket holders to , all about money for the club remember 👍🏻 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,275 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Club can’t really price it much higher tbh as literally nobody would buy it, aye it’s not fair on season tickets holders but I’ve bought my season ticket to secure my seat and put money into the club so I’m not overly bothered, hopefully loads will buy the PPV and give us some extra revenue to strengthen against they tarrier bastards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GersInCanada 7,775 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 ST holders knew when they renewed that it could be a while until they could sit in the seats they have paid for. They get home games for free which is only fair. For others to watch the game the price is 9.99. The club is looking to maximise income and they would have reckoned that at that price they will sell a hell of a lot more virtual tickets than they would if it was priced at 19.99. It's just a business/marketing decision. It is not a slap in the face to anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don81 2,851 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Cedrick said: When we’re back public sale should be a tenner mate coz this is exactly the same thing No it's not , nobody even knew for sure all the games would be televised when they bought their season tickets. It wasn't sold as renew your ticket and you'll get the games free. Everyone renewed knowing they might get nothing in return. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 43,759 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Lord Lockin said: I'd charge £25 - give them a wee discount for being loyal fans 6 minutes ago, Cedrick said: £18 more for season ticket holders to watch Sunday than a non season ticket holder is ridiculous, it should be £28 minimum for non season ticket holders to , all about money for the club remember 👍🏻 Then the club will get nowhere near the buys they would get for it being a tenner. I get what you guys are saying but being realistic it doesn't make much sense to charge as much as that just because season ticket holders are being charged that. Season tickets were on sale and bought knowing that the chances of seeing the games in the ground were slim until at least October. Think the club could've made fair reductions on the prices then instead of trying to now make up for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,429 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Cedrick said: £18 more for season ticket holders to watch Sunday than a non season ticket holder is ridiculous, it should be £28 minimum for non season ticket holders to , all about money for the club remember 👍🏻 Were you happy with the new signings? Are you happy weve built the squad rather than decimate it. Hivs have shut their academy and laid off loads of staff, the sheep are talking of a 10m shortfall needing plugged- would you rather see our club in this position heading into the 10iar season? The club being "all about money" - our money to the club- is what allows us to challenge. If the club didn't maximise revenues we'd be down sizing. Pretty sure none of us want that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,429 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, Cedrick said: When we’re back public sale should be a tenner mate coz this is exactly the same thing Aye mate. Only its absolutely not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 43,759 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, GersInCanada said: ST holders knew when they renewed that it could be a while until they could sit in the seats they have paid for. They get home games for free which is only fair. For others to watch the game the price is 9.99. The club is looking to maximise income and they would have reckoned that at that price they will sell a hell of a lot more virtual tickets than they would if it was priced at 19.99. It's just a business/marketing decision. It is not a slap in the face to anyone. Not just home fans either. Can see alot of St Mirren fans buying in too. The price makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Just now, dougal72 said: No it's not , nobody even knew for sure all the games would be televised when they bought their season tickets. It wasn't sold as renew your ticket and you'll get the games free. Everyone renewed knowing they might get nothing in return. So I’m not paying £18 more to watch the same stream as a non season ticket holder on Sunday , if you can tell me I’m not I’ll agree with you , in fact a non season ticket holder bear can buy an August package for a pound less than I’m paying for ST Mirren on Sunday if you can tell me that’s not happening I’ll agree your correct Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza2258 478 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Cedrick said: So I’m not paying £18 more to watch the same stream as a non season ticket holder on Sunday , if you can tell me I’m not I’ll agree with you , in fact a non season ticket holder bear can buy an August package for a pound less than I’m paying for ST Mirren on Sunday if you can tell me that’s not happening I’ll agree your correct What are you paying for on Sunday? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 72,317 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, GersInCanada said: ST holders knew when they renewed that it could be a while until they could sit in the seats they have paid for. They get home games for free which is only fair. For others to watch the game the price is 9.99. The club is looking to maximise income and they would have reckoned that at that price they will sell a hell of a lot more virtual tickets than they would if it was priced at 19.99. It's just a business/marketing decision. It is not a slap in the face to anyone. No we don’t Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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