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[Jimfanciesthedude 24,567]

5 minutes ago, The Dude said:

Unless the Gov specifically pull the plug on that game and say it can't take place, there's no restrictions imposed.

UEFA insist that their rules trumps any of a clubs domestic association. That's partly why they are based in Switzerland. Everything UEFA does is under Swiss law. If its 'only' the SFA enforcing restrictions, UEFA won't give a fuck if celtic are complying with THEIR guidelines.

 

Surely its the government thats effectively pulled the plug on the games though, the scottish government only agreed to allow football to return if certain rules were followed, they havent been so the games have been postponed, which i am guessing was one of the possible outcomes from a rule break that the government put in place

[Ger_onimo 20,488]

What are the chances of the league actually being completed this season, given that Sturgeon basically said football is on a final warning?

I really can’t see us going a couple of months, let alone the full season, without some idiot player doing something daft again.

[Jimfanciesthedude 24,567]

2 minutes ago, The Dude said:

If he starts showing symptoms this weekend, the shit really hits the fan.

Somecunt drop him off in Aberdeen for the next 3 days

[The Dude 20,026]

Just now, coopsleftboot said:

That's why it's grey....Swiss law has no authority in another country.  Good for setting up their own rules and managing a sport, but when it comes to things like this, they can't ignore another nations laws, advice and guidance.

If UEFA try to insist their game is more important than anything a national association put's in place in these circumstances, I'd be astonished if wee nippy didn't see that as undermining her governmental advice...and they'll pull the plug. 

They wouldnt be ignoring the nations laws or guidance. They'd still be very much within them. Parkhead's not been shutdown, celtic's players aren't isolating and there are no travel restrictions to the UK from Iceland. Theyd only be ignoring the SFAs guidance. And that means nothing to what is essentially their supervisory body.

UEFA absolutely feel their competitions are above domestic ones. Clubs and domestic associations agree to that stipulation every year. UEFA games always take priority over domestic ones. If Sturgeon pulls the plug to the extent UEFA games can't be hosted here, it fucks us over.

[Jimfanciesthedude 24,567]

Just now, Ger_onimo said:

What are the chances of the league actually being completed this season, given that Sturgeon basically said football is on a final warning?

I really can’t see us going a couple of months, let alone the full season, without some idiot player doing something daft again.

Btw, i have no doubt that other idiot players hsve broke the rules already and just not been found out, from across the country

[The Dude 20,026]

1 minute ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

Surely its the government thats effectively pulled the plug on the games though, the scottish government only agreed to allow football to return if certain rules were followed, they havent been so the games have been postponed, which i am guessing was one of the possible outcomes from a rule break that the government put in place

Unless the Gov expressly withdraws permission for clubs to play (they havent) then it is the SFA and SPFL's decision whether games are played. Had Sturgeon made the call to postpone them on public health grounds and enforced that with the SFA/SPFL, it would be a much different conversation.

[markem 7,287]

2 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

Btw, i have no doubt that other idiot players hsve broke the rules already and just not been found out, from across the country

It’s bothersome that a entire season could hang on whether some young lad in Hamilton’s squad goes on a bender tbh 

[Ger_onimo 20,488]

4 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

Btw, i have no doubt that other idiot players hsve broke the rules already and just not been found out, from across the country

Definitely, although flying to Spain and back between games will take some beating 😂

[Bad Robot 21,264]

Any comment from Doncaster yet?

[Jimfanciesthedude 24,567]

3 minutes ago, The Dude said:

Unless the Gov expressly withdraws permission for clubs to play (they havent) then it is the SFA and SPFL's decision whether games are played. Had Sturgeon made the call to postpone them on public health grounds and enforced that with the SFA/SPFL, it would be a much different conversation.

Sounds like thats what she did today, it sounded like in the meeting they had with the footballing authorities the government basically said they two teams dont play until next week

[TEFTONG 60,189]

2 minutes ago, Bad Robot said:

Any comment from Doncaster yet?

He will be far too busy lobbying Uefa to make sure the Taigs don't get bombed out the Champions League...

[Ger_onimo 20,488]

7 minutes ago, markem said:

It’s bothersome that a entire season could hang on whether some young lad in Hamilton’s squad goes on a bender tbh 

Exactly this. All the more reason for severe punishments for individuals and clubs from the off. The young lad from Hamilton won’t give a shit about a couple of games being postponed- he might think twice if there was the prospect of the club forfeiting games and the player facing a lengthy ban and a huge fine.

[frenv 2,125]

re: the rest of the season, how they plan on coping with the cup matches between the top tier clubs and some of the part-timers is anyone's guess.

Generaly Joe Bloggs is going to be working as normal, interacting and socialising as they're told they can do - they can't just self isolate in the run up to a match after getting a test. Hell, some of these guys will likely work on the same day as a match.

[Blueshoff 11,870]

5 minutes ago, Bad Robot said:

Any comment from Doncaster yet?

Obviously hasn’t been told what to say yet.

[Bad Robot 21,264]

4 minutes ago, TEFTONG said:

He will be far too busy lobbying Uefa to make sure the Taigs don't get bombed out the Champions League...

His silence is deafening 

[The Dude 20,026]

9 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

Sounds like thats what she did today, it sounded like in the meeting they had with the footballing authorities the government basically said they two teams dont play until next week

They didnt. They left it to the league bodies to do with the threat that any more and the whole thing gets pulled and we get Gov intervention to stop them playing.

[BridgeIsBlue 66,608]

Radio Spud should be good later on. 

[keithgersbear 3,225]

The more shambolic for them the better for us. 

[DMax399 3,756]

21 minutes ago, Ger_onimo said:

What are the chances of the league actually being completed this season, given that Sturgeon basically said football is on a final warning?

I really can’t see us going a couple of months, let alone the full season, without some idiot player doing something daft again.

That’s why we need to get to top of the league and stay there.  Given the precedent set by the SPFL of awarding titles without all matches being played, it goes without saying they would continue this trend if this season is cut short....😀

[coopsleftboot 5,512]

26 minutes ago, The Dude said:

They wouldnt be ignoring the nations laws or guidance. They'd still be very much within them. Parkhead's not been shutdown, celtic's players aren't isolating and there are no travel restrictions to the UK from Iceland. Theyd only be ignoring the SFAs guidance. And that means nothing to what is essentially their supervisory body.

UEFA absolutely feel their competitions are above domestic ones. Clubs and domestic associations agree to that stipulation every year. UEFA games always take priority over domestic ones. If Sturgeon pulls the plug to the extent UEFA games can't be hosted here, it fucks us over.

Yes they would....they would be asking celtic to.  

She's only pulled the plug on games for those that haven't followed the guidance, no-one else.

 

[The Dude 20,026]

Just now, coopsleftboot said:

Yes they would....they would be asking celtic to.  

They wouldnt. The celtic players (bar Bolingoli) don't have to isolate. Hence why they had the media at Lennoxtown this afternoon. If they were to isolate theres no danger they are holding a presser with the media physically in the room.

[coopsleftboot 5,512]

1 minute ago, The Dude said:

They wouldnt. The celtic players (bar Bolingoli) don't have to isolate. Hence why they had the media at Lennoxtown this afternoon. If they were to isolate theres no danger they are holding a presser with the media physically in the room.

You're doing that obtuse thing again...

The SPFL, under pressure from the Scottish Government have stopped celtic playing games.  It's not about isolation (yet).  

[Paisley Blue Loyal 11,210]

5 minutes ago, The Dude said:

They didnt. They left it to the league bodies to do with the threat that any more and the whole thing gets pulled and we get Gov intervention to stop them playing.

I watched Nippy live today and it seemed clear to me she was far from happy and in her reply to speccy she definitely stated that she expected that as a minimum that the scum and sheep wouldn’t play for a week and that’s exactly what has happened, Not having a go at you btw but I don’t see that as a coincidence but more of a veiled threat imo

[The Dude 20,026]

Just now, coopsleftboot said:

You're doing that obtuse thing again...

The SPFL, under pressure from the Scottish Government have stopped celtic playing games.  It's not about isolation (yet).  

It might be obtuse, but it is almost certainly how it'll pan out barring any other change in circumstances like a positive test etc. UEFA don't give a toss about the SFA or what they think. If they can play the game, they'll play it.

[CoatbridgeBear 7,113]

3 minutes ago, The Dude said:

They wouldnt. The celtic players (bar Bolingoli) don't have to isolate. Hence why they had the media at Lennoxtown this afternoon. If they were to isolate theres no danger they are holding a presser with the media physically in the room.

Why are they not isolating though? Surely that’s the logical thing to do.