Goldson

[Jimfanciesthedude 25,138]

3 hours ago, The Dude said:

No point having 'hungrier' players if they aren't as good as the ones you've moved on.

Not always true, look at ecks helicopter sunday squad, it had talent but arguably it had way more heart and desire

[Smile 26,624]

Goldson seems to be getting more stick for being honest it was clear the players had chucked it some had chucked during the first half and never tried at all.

[Jimfanciesthedude 25,138]

Just now, Smile said:

Goldson seems to be getting more stick for being honest it was clear the players had chucked it some had chucked during the first half and never tried at all.

Its not what he implied, its how he put it, telling a fanbase thats just watched their team lose out on another cup, that the second half they watched in hope was utterly pointless, as the players had chucked it at HT, is nothing short of disgraceful, the fans travelling from all over to watch players chuck it at HT

Shambles

[The Specky Forum Organiser 67,505]

1 hour ago, Rangers_no1 said:

Think he will get any boos mate?

Cant see him being booed but if he makes a mistake or things aren't going well could turn a bit ugly

[Smile 26,624]

4 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

Its not what he implied, its how he put it, telling a fanbase thats just watched their team lose out on another cup, that the second half they watched in hope was utterly pointless, as the players had chucked it at HT, is nothing short of disgraceful, the fans travelling from all over to watch players chuck it at HT

Shambles

We complain when players say nothing and we complain when they speak. He was too honest and the average supporter cannot handle that.

We could see the players had chucked it as I mentioned previously.

[The Dude 20,026]

9 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

Not always true, look at ecks helicopter sunday squad, it had talent but arguably it had way more heart and desire

I'm probably not speaking out of turn in saying that, in terms of talent we had a vastly superior squad to 11 of the 12 teams in the league. We had dutch internationals (ricksen), belgian internationals (buffel), a 6m left-back (ball), Arveladze, someone who'd played in a CL final not long before (Prso). That team was packed full of talent.

[JackAlex93 11,839]

Just now, Smile said:

We complain when players say nothing and we complain when they speak. He was too honest and the average supporter cannot handle that.

We could see the players had chucked it as I mentioned previously.

Another poster failing to see the real issue.

[The Dude 20,026]

1 hour ago, King Jela said:

You literally just made the point fan debate matters in the boardroom because fans are the customers, yet you're claiming they wouldn't have done anything with the money other than covered losses further angering their customers. Its fairly clear you have no idea what the thinking is in the boardroom so to suggest you'd know for sure what they would have done with the hypothetical money from Goldson is fairytale stuff. 

There's literally nothing to suggest that at all. 

so we can assume your position that they would have spent a penny of it on a replacement - particularly given we never spent a penny over the summer - is equally 'fairytale stuff'?

[The Dude 20,026]

2 minutes ago, JackAlex93 said:

Another poster failing to see the real issue.

The real issue is fans don't like hearing the truth and only want honesty when it fits with what they want to hear.

[JackAlex93 11,839]

5 minutes ago, The Dude said:

The real issue is fans don't like hearing the truth and only want honesty when it fits with what they want to hear.

No the real issue is admitting to the whole of Scottish football that you and your team mates chucked a game at half time in a fucking semi final. Shows everyone we are an easy target and that we are mentally fragile, creates negative publicity also.

[King Jela 20,837]

6 minutes ago, The Dude said:

so we can assume your position that they would have spent a penny of it on a replacement - particularly given we never spent a penny over the summer - is equally 'fairytale stuff'?

We never spent money over the summer because we never had any.  If we were willing to keep Goldson instead of cashing in I'm positive they would have spent money on a replacement if they had cashed in on him. Don't see anything to suggest otherwise. 

[The Dude 20,026]

2 minutes ago, JackAlex93 said:

No the real issue is admitting to the whole of Scottish football that you and your team mates chucked a game at half time in a fucking semi final. Shows everyone we are an easy target and that we are mentally fragile, creates negative publicity also.

Should he have lied and pretended they were bursting their arse for 90 minutes?

[GOAT 30,449]

18 minutes ago, Smile said:

Goldson seems to be getting more stick for being honest it was clear the players had chucked it some had chucked during the first half and never tried at all.

No he’s getting abuse for saying the hunger is away and the game was over at 3-0.  Absolutely disgraceful things for a so called leader in the Rangers dressing room to say. 

[GOAT 30,449]

Rangers fans actually defending Goldson.  Wow man.

[The Dude 20,026]

Just now, King Jela said:

We never spent money over the summer because we never had any.  If we were willing to keep Goldson instead of cashing in I'm positive they would have spent money on a replacement if they had cashed in on him. Don't see anything to suggest otherwise. 

Mate, we had a 40million CL bonus within touching distance and we tried to cheap out and get it without spending a penny. We went into this season knowing winning the title would almost certainly see us in the CL groups but again we cheaped out.

Had we sold Goldson, we'd have still had Balogun, Helander, Katic and Simpson on our books (and postentially Edmundson). If we'd sold Goldson, we'd have went with what we had.

[NorthernLights 2,528]

Considering we’re going 1-0 behind in every game at the moment it doesn’t half give a team an incentive to attack us if they know they only have to score again for our team to stop trying 

[GOAT 30,449]

Just now, NorthernLights said:

Considering we’re going 1-0 behind in every game at the moment it doesn’t half give a team an incentive to attack us if they know they only have to score again for our team to stop trying 

Exactly!

[SuperLeeMcCulloch 2,389]

24 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

Its not what he implied, its how he put it, telling a fanbase thats just watched their team lose out on another cup, that the second half they watched in hope was utterly pointless, as the players had chucked it at HT, is nothing short of disgraceful, the fans travelling from all over to watch players chuck it at HT

Shambles

My mates left after the 3rd goal went in, I stupidly decided to stay and put myself through more torture then that cunt comes away with that. 

Its a total slap in the face to all the supporters. 

[Smile 26,624]

7 minutes ago, GOAT said:

No he’s getting abuse for saying the hunger is away and the game was over at 3-0.  Absolutely disgraceful things for a so called leader in the Rangers dressing room to say. 

I think he's getting abuse for being honest posters and punters cry out for it and when they hear it they react like daft wee kids.

Everyone who watched the full interview could see the point he was making.

[JackAlex93 11,839]

7 minutes ago, The Dude said:

Should he have lied and pretended they were bursting their arse for 90 minutes?

No but what he did say was a massive slap in the face to the thousands of Rangers fans at the game. Some things you can be honest about and some things shouldn't be said. Just gives all our next opponents more encouragement playing against us. Get in about us and we'll shite the bed.

[dummiesoot 16,155]

Just now, Smile said:

I think he's getting abuse for being honest posters and punters cry out for it and when they hear it they react like daft wee kids.

He is getting abuse for being an honest shitebag. 

[The Specky Forum Organiser 67,505]

People who are saying he was right to be honest are deliberately missing the point.

[GOAT 30,449]

1 minute ago, Smile said:

I think he's getting abuse for being honest posters and punters cry out for it and when they hear it they react like daft wee kids.

Everyone who watched the full interview could see the point he was making.

If he’s being honest then he doesn’t have the attitude to play for Rangers, he found his level at Brighton.

[Smile 26,624]

1 minute ago, GOAT said:

If he’s being honest then he doesn’t have the attitude to play for Rangers, he found his level at Brighton.

I'd would not level that at Goldson the amount of games he's played for us. Most of the animosity is because he has not signed a contract but bar the odd brain fart he gives 100%.

There were real cowards on the field but even at the end Goldson although failing was still working hard and bursting a gut to get a goal.

[The Dude 20,026]

5 minutes ago, JackAlex93 said:

No but what he did say was a massive slap in the face to the thousands of Rangers fans at the game. Some things you can be honest about and some things shouldn't be said. Just gives all our next opponents more encouragement playing against us. Get in about us and we'll shite the bed.

He said precisely what thousands of Rangers fans were saying. So he can be honest - as long as it he's only honest sometimes.