Hot Headed Morelos

[Hadron Collider 31,342]

44 minutes ago, The Dude said:

If he's no-showed training that's a discipline issue and he should have been suspended by the club pending investigation and a potential fine. Thinking of a few similar incidents that have happened where it's gone into full-on disciplinary stuff) and we've never been shy in taking a hard, public, line with it. The pieces in this just don't all line up as they should. 

They don't need to give the exact details but if there's been a bust-up and he's being punished for that then that's fair enough. The smoke and mirrors don't do much to help the situation.

Can the club tell him he’s not getting paid until he gets his ass in gear? If the club doctors say he’s over the injury surely he must hold up his end of the contract and be getting ready for games. 

[The Dude 20,026]

Just now, Hadron Collider said:

Can the club tell him he’s not getting paid until he gets his ass in gear? If the club doctors say he’s over the injury surely he must hold up his end of the contract and be getting ready for games. 

No. They'd leave themselves open to legal action. He's been part of the matchday squad in five of seven games this season and has returned to action a month ahead of schedule. I'm not sure it holds any water.

[Hadron Collider 31,342]

1 minute ago, The Dude said:

No. They'd leave themselves open to legal action. He's been part of the matchday squad in five of seven games this season and has returned to action a month ahead of schedule. I'm not sure it holds any water.

Ah ok. Well, a fine is the only route then? 

[The Dude 20,026]

Just now, Hadron Collider said:

Ah ok. Well, a fine is the only route then? 

Aye, two weeks is the max they are allowed to fine him too iirc.

[graeme_4 35,219]

58 minutes ago, The Dude said:

His value is tanked after yesterday. Nobody is paying a penny for him this month with Rangers having bombed him out and called him fat and lazy. Anyone who wants him will sit a few months, wait to see how he responds to Gio before signing him for fuck all in a few months time.

Need to wait and see on that. Sure he’ll be off for a fee.

Folk have signed many a waster convinced they’ll be the one to turn them round, and Morelos for all his faults isn’t a lost cause in football. 

Won’t be the big bucks it should have been two years ago though. 

[The Dude 20,026]

Just now, graeme_4 said:

Need to wait and see on that. Sure he’ll be off for a fee.

Folk have signed many a waster convinced they’ll be the one to turn them round, and Morelos for all his faults isn’t a lost cause in football. 

Won’t be the big bucks it should have been two years ago though. 

He’s not a lost cause, not by any stretch, but nobody will be beating our door down to sign him in this window. Especially not when they can sign him for fuck all in a few months.

[graeme_4 35,219]

3 minutes ago, The Dude said:

He’s not a lost cause, not by any stretch, but nobody will be beating our door down to sign him in this window. Especially not when they can sign him for fuck all in a few months.

Same could have been said for Aribo, Christie, Edouard etc in recent years, and an on form Morelos is better than all of them.

[beararse 6,474]

7 minutes ago, The Dude said:

He’s not a lost cause, not by any stretch, but nobody will be beating our door down to sign him in this window. Especially not when they can sign him for fuck all in a few months.

Maybe Everton will sell Gordon, get desperate as the window nears the end and splash £15m on Morelos.

we can but dream.

[STEPPS BOY 75,065]

Clubs will be looking thinking that they can get Alfie for probably 3-4 million now.

Absolute no brainer for a guy who has proved numerous times that he can do it at highest level.

The biggest issue will be whether he wants to leave now or sit it out and pocket the massive signing on fee.

[RFC55 110,191]

Just now, STEPPS BOY said:

Clubs will be looking thinking that they can get Alfie for probably 3-4 million now.

Absolute no brainer for a guy who has proved numerous times that he can do it at highest level.

The biggest issue will be whether he wants to leave now or sit it out and pocket the massive signing on fee.

He would be frightening in Spain tbh 

[STEPPS BOY 75,065]

2 minutes ago, RFC55 said:

He would be frightening in Spain tbh 

Spain or Portugal i think he’d be Superb.

[The Dude 20,026]

12 minutes ago, graeme_4 said:

Same could have been said for Aribo, Christie, Edouard etc in recent years, and an on form Morelos is better than all of them.

Were any of them bombed out a week before the window shuts and called fat and lazy?

[Big Al 55 9,311]

45 minutes ago, The Dude said:

The same place they told us his contract offer was off the table.

So nowhere did the say fat and lazy…thanks. Instead you used that language to reinforce your point.

[The Dude 20,026]

1 minute ago, Big Al 55 said:

So nowhere did the say fat and lazy…thanks. Instead you used that language to reinforce your point.

If we’re using the language used by the club then it’s “ “

[Big Al 55 9,311]

Just now, The Dude said:

If we’re using the language used by the club then it’s “ “

So nowhere Rangers said fat and lazy?

[GetToTheChoppa 6,873]

Will go to a team like Villarreal for €5million.

[The Dude 20,026]

6 minutes ago, Big Al 55 said:

So nowhere Rangers said fat and lazy?

They used their lackeys to do it instead.

[ElBufalo20 7,978]

4 minutes ago, GetToTheChoppa said:

Will go to a team like Villarreal for €5million.

Would be ideal for Everton 

[ayrshireranger 8,439]

2 hours ago, The Dude said:

He's been included for all but one game this season. A few weeks ago, GVB was happy with the work he was putting in and was keen to sign him to a new deal. If the player is 'fat and ill-disciplined' and the manager is playing him to 'get the fans off his back for not playing him' he's in the wrong job as Rangers manager.

The idea he was 'trying to show the support what nick he was in' by playing him in matches in utterly mental. Lets gamble with results - and potentially the league title - so we can prove to some punters that Morelos is out of shape.

If he felt there was 'no other option' its yet another failing of our recruitment that we've signed several attacking midfielders, a couple of CBs but have gone into the new season with one viable striker.

Morelos lost his discipline, not GVB. And he would have been a late sub at best tonight. We havent dropped a nail-on starter.

[RobertN 393]

5 minutes ago, ayrshireranger said:

Morelos lost his discipline, not GVB. And he would have been a late sub at best tonight. We havent dropped a nail-on starter.

This he has been out of the picture for a while now no big deal him not being there tonight

[the cry was no 3,044]

55 minutes ago, The Dude said:

He’s not a lost cause, not by any stretch, but nobody will be beating our door down to sign him in this window. Especially not when they can sign him for fuck all in a few months.

They will if they need a striker and rate him highly enough

[Big Al 55 9,311]

It might be no big deal tonight but it’s a season buster if he’s not fit and ready soon.

If he won’t be signing a new contract and he’s likely to take the huff then we need to replace him.

Sounds like he’s for the off depending on which rumours you favour. 

[JimmyCR1 1,535]

5 hours ago, The Dude said:

Then why was the manager saying less than 24 hours ago that he could return to the squad this weekend?

I don’t mean in the short term, I mean continuing to work on it. He is obviously fit enough to play, he played at the weekend, I’m meaning for him to get back to his best. Thought that was obvious with my wording.

[JimmyCR1 1,535]

5 hours ago, Gazzalivesforever said:

8 weeks to lose 5/6 lbs? Not a chance. I lost 9 lbs in 30 days and all I did was run 5km every single day. As a professional athlete it should take him less time.

if you’re loosing more than a lb a week you’re basically starving yourself and/or doing too much cardio. 

[Thermopylae 15,287]

Win lose or draw tonight Morelos left Gio with no choice