Davies > Souttar

[Malkytfp1 18,618]

Souttar somehow gets away with a lot on here. Don't get it. He's fucking jobby.

[LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510]

Neither are good enough if we want to be challenging for titles. Simple as that.

[left winger 14,296]

Didn’t want Souttar, was coming round to him, but now back to square one.

[docspiderman 1,234]

5 hours ago, Super Ally Scores Again! said:

Surely we need to adopt a back 3

Souttar Goldson Davies

There can be no other option moving forward 

Barisic and Tav can start higher up the pitch and provide the width our manager is craving

This also alleviates 1 holding midfielder 

So lose a striker or midfielder to protect a central defender who has always been a liability in terms of defending as well as fitness? He is not going to change or improve his awareness or concentration so play someone else rather than add another  cb to cover for him.

[The Beast 9,230]

Souttar has these lapses of concentration that often lead to disaster. He's obviously not a left sided CB either - another example of square pegs and round holes.

I don't think he's any better or worse than Davies necessarily but neither are good enough to be a first pick for us.

[Big Al 55 9,279]

We’re poor all over the park tbf, Goldson was awful mistake yesterday, goals (that mattered) last midweek were down to midfield not picking up their runners.

[Big Al 55 9,279]

I’d like to see all three playing, in 3-5-2. We need to start controlling the midfield 👍

[MacBoyd 5,492]

Big John was abysmal yesterday and not for the first time. Cost us the goal, nearly cost another by trying to be messi. Davies or balogun should play next game.

[Big Al 55 9,279]

13 minutes ago, MacBoyd said:

Big John was abysmal yesterday and not for the first time. Cost us the goal, nearly cost another by trying to be messi. Davies or balogun should play next game.

How was the goal his fault?

[mitre_mouldmaster 21,509]

4 minutes ago, Big Al 55 said:

How was the goal his fault?

He plays Kyogo onside being about 4 yards behind the defensive line.

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1 minute ago, mitre_mouldmaster said:

He plays Kyogo onside being about 4 yards behind the defensive line.

Watching it back, even if Souttar is higher, Sterling is also playing him onside

It's pure laziness from the defence

[mitre_mouldmaster 21,509]

2 minutes ago, psb07158 said:

Watching it back, even if Souttar is higher, Sterling is also playing him onside

It's pure laziness from the defence

Reekin by the two of them then.

Willing to give Sterling the benefit of the doubt given he is getting played out of position on his second start. Wont get much more leeway though.

[ForeverAndEver 71,661]

I’d much rather give King a go again then have any of the other three.

[mitre_mouldmaster 21,509]

Just now, ForeverAndEver said:

I’d much rather give King a go again then have any of the other three.

Im the same.

Genuinely think the league is most likely gone anyway. They have a decent lead already with a load of their main players yet to come back.

Might as well blood in King and see if he can pick up some experience.

Wouldnt be against Rice and Lovelace getting plenty of game time either.

[sausagetrunks 6,039]

if Beale is wanting to play Borna and Tav as wingers he should look at 3-5-2 and get both forwards on with Raskin, Cifu and Cantwell playing in their best positions. The 3 at the back can cover tav and Borna when they are pushing.  

[Big Al 55 9,279]

1 hour ago, mitre_mouldmaster said:

He plays Kyogo onside being about 4 yards behind the defensive line.

What after Goldson with a free header,  headers directly to O’Riley15 yards away?

Aye is was Souttar fault 😂 ffs

[docspiderman 1,234]

40 minutes ago, Big Al 55 said:

What after Goldson with a free header,  headers directly to O’Riley15 yards away?

Aye is was Souttar fault 😂 ffs

A ball in the air headed by an opponent; if only we had some midfielders or forwards on the park who might have challenged for the ball.

[Jack Sparrow 109]

On 03/09/2023 at 15:47, psb07158 said:

Aye this is like asking if you want to lose your left eye or your right

But only if you're already blind.   Souttar is fine as a squad player.  Davies probably faster and technically better but not as strong in the challenge.   Balogun would start before both of them for me.

[sausagetrunks 6,039]

3 hours ago, Big Al 55 said:

I’d like to see all three playing, in 3-5-2. We need to start controlling the midfield 👍

he might as well because he want our wing backs to play like wingers. he can also get two forwards on and raskin, cifu and cantwell in the middle with cantwell a bit further forward linking up with Dessers and Danilo.  and the 3 at the back covering for tav and Borna. 

[Malkytfp1 18,618]

1 hour ago, Big Al 55 said:

What after Goldson with a free header,  headers directly to O’Riley15 yards away?

Aye is was Souttar fault 😂 ffs

People canny see wrong with Souttar.

Goldsons header was shite but Souttar isn't exempt here. His positioning is a fucking joke at the goal. He should be up in line with the defender attacking the ball. Taught that in school ffs.

How many goals has he been responsible for this season alone without going back to last season. He was also caught out again losing the ball and putting them through on goal where we were luck they never scored.

Ben Davies does that he's slated. Souttar is not very good.

[Moody Blue Legend 61,605]

3 hours ago, psb07158 said:

Watching it back, even if Souttar is higher, Sterling is also playing him onside

It's pure laziness from the defence

Yip just totally switched off probably thinking the ref was just going to blow for half time.  Basic stuff taught by your first manager as a kid.  Abysmal.  Shapeless mess.

[five stars 1,634]

4 hours ago, Big Al 55 said:

How was the goal his fault?

He played him onside. 

[Big Al 55 9,279]

16 hours ago, Malkytfp1 said:

People canny see wrong with Souttar.

Goldsons header was shite but Souttar isn't exempt here. His positioning is a fucking joke at the goal. He should be up in line with the defender attacking the ball. Taught that in school ffs.

How many goals has he been responsible for this season alone without going back to last season. He was also caught out again losing the ball and putting them through on goal where we were luck they never scored.

Ben Davies does that he's slated. Souttar is not very good.

Never said he was exempt for criticism, but it happened so fast there was very little time to reset.

The header should have been cleared to the centre circle at the very least, a free header from 40 yards ffs.

[ayro 3,023]

Terrible defending by both Goldson and Souttar for their goal, it’s an unchallenged clearance and CB partner completely sleeping.

They are both experienced players, they know what the opposition strikers do in floating offside and playing the line yet get caught out with a simple goal kick.

Amateur defending and not for the first time even this season, the goals we lose are criminal, it’s not just the defence, it’s a malaise through the team by not bursting their hole to be difficult to play against.

Maeda is one of the worst technical footballers I have seen but by fuck does he put a shift in for his team with aggression and pace, our players don’t want to do the shite bit of football.

[plymouthranger 3,888]

I like Souttar but he’s been directly at fault for about 4 goals already this season (Goldsons not doing much better either). 
 

Davies at least has had a run of clean sheets with us last season before the OF fuck up