SeparateEntityMyArse 55,254 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 7 hours ago, Ace said: I see we're at the club can't do right for doing wrong stage. We moaned like fuck because the board were saying nothing at all ... Now we're moaning because we don't like what they've said. Yes, they've handled this terribly but at least they've said something which is better than radio silence until can actually confirm Hampden They've put out a holding statement that confirms nothing. And absolutely nothing the press hadn't leaked. We've moved from the denial- fuck up - silence - holding with a hint of blame -- holding with nothing new confirmed stage. Only thing they've been competent at this summer is taking my ST money off me on time. HG5, Loyal72 and BlackpoolBear1952 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal72 13,438 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 8 hours ago, Ace said: I see we're at the club can't do right for doing wrong stage. We moaned like fuck because the board were saying nothing at all ... Now we're moaning because we don't like what they've said. Yes, they've handled this terribly but at least they've said something which is better than radio silence until can actually confirm Hampden Come on man, incompetence after incompetence, mediocrity after mediocrity.. They handle everything they do terribly, and have said fuck all. HG5 and Bluekev 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPWF 8,904 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 8 hours ago, Ace said: I see we're at the club can't do right for doing wrong stage. We moaned like fuck because the board were saying nothing at all ... Now we're moaning because we don't like what they've said. Yes, they've handled this terribly but at least they've said something which is better than radio silence until can actually confirm Hampden How did you get Bennet’s wee cock out your gub long enough to type this out? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bydo 3,429 Posted July 12 Popular Post Share Posted July 12 13 hours ago, Ace said: I see we're at the club can't do right for doing wrong stage. We moaned like fuck because the board were saying nothing at all ... Now we're moaning because we don't like what they've said. Yes, they've handled this terribly but at least they've said something which is better than radio silence until can actually confirm Hampden Doing right would have been commenting long before now. Doing right would have been having a contingency which could be immediately enacted. Come to think of it, doing right would have been having competent people in roles which would ensure this shit show didn’t happen in the first place. BlueKnight87, Loyal72, Paisley Blue Loyal and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CoplandRoad83 3,612 Posted July 12 Popular Post Share Posted July 12 Will be some atmosphere at Hampden ahead of the first champions league home game, with 50k of our fans belting out Yes Sir I Can Boogie, and 500 Miles. Bobby Hume, SeparateEntityMyArse, BlueAvenger and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 15,194 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 7 minutes ago, Bydo said: Doing right would have been commenting long before now. Doing right would have been having a contingency which could be immediately enacted. Come to think of it, doing right would have been having competent people in roles which would ensure this shit show didn’t happen in the first place. There’s nothing to say Bisgrove wasn’t competent to take it on. He oversaw a 250% increase in commercial and sponsorship income. The biggest growth of any premiership club. Problem was he fucked off at the start of the extension chasing the dosh of Saudi. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 55,254 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 42 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: There’s nothing to say Bisgrove wasn’t competent to take it on. He oversaw a 250% increase in commercial and sponsorship income. The biggest growth of any premiership club. Problem was he fucked off at the start of the extension chasing the dosh of Saudi. He knew how to generate revenue alright, and how to BS his ways to promotions, but what on his CV or in general you're aware of gave him the experience or the skill set to successfully manage a complex and tight timescaled building / renovation project? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 15,194 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 43 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: He knew how to generate revenue alright, and how to BS his ways to promotions, but what on his CV or in general you're aware of gave him the experience or the skill set to successfully manage a complex and tight timescaled building / renovation project? Did he not oversee Edmiston House, museum and retail space? Which has been a rip roaring success. Despite running over. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluekev 46,694 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 50 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: He knew how to generate revenue alright, and how to BS his ways to promotions, but what on his CV or in general you're aware of gave him the experience or the skill set to successfully manage a complex and tight timescaled building / renovation project? A project manager was hired to oversee the renovation and he got sacked due to the calamity. KeyserSoze 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 87,117 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 8 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: Did he not oversee Edmiston House, museum and retail space? Which has been a rip roaring success. Despite running over. Has it? What have we made from it? Genuine question btw because I don’t have much of a clue about EH. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 37,291 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 3 minutes ago, .Williamson. said: Has it? What have we made from it? Genuine question btw because I don’t have much of a clue about EH. Not sure if it’s been a financial success, but it’s investment in the infrastructure that’s beneficial to the ‘fan experience’ and probably sponsorship. They’d talked about ED making an extra £1m per year, but fuck knows if that’s the case or not (suspect not). HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the goal machine 7,986 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 5 minutes ago, .Williamson. said: Has it? What have we made from it? Genuine question btw because I don’t have much of a clue about EH. Making a small profit so far from the last figures. https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/24048413.rangers-new-edmiston-house-accounts-show-30k-profit/ HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 31,966 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 1 hour ago, KeyserSoze said: There’s nothing to say Bisgrove wasn’t competent to take it on. He oversaw a 250% increase in commercial and sponsorship income. The biggest growth of any premiership club. Problem was he fucked off at the start of the extension chasing the dosh of Saudi. He had an extremely low starting point, we were performing well below what should have been expected. I would say he got us to where we would have been if we appointed anyone mildly competent at their job. Loyal72, AGM_72, HG5 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 31,966 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 9 minutes ago, the goal machine said: Making a small profit so far from the last figures. https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/24048413.rangers-new-edmiston-house-accounts-show-30k-profit/ It will need to generate a lot more than that in the future to justify the investment from a financial perspective. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the goal machine 7,986 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 22 minutes ago, McEwan's Lager said: It will need to generate a lot more than that in the future to justify the investment from a financial perspective. Yeah, very true. Would probably say at least 10x for it to have any meaningful impact. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 55,254 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 1 hour ago, KeyserSoze said: Did he not oversee Edmiston House, museum and retail space? Which has been a rip roaring success. Despite running over. Did he have the same responsibility? He became CEO last summer after it opened?. Did he actually oversee and manage the whole project for Rangers when the commercial and marketing manager? Yeah whether him or not it they still managed to miss our anniversary (fuck, another missed deadline) and despite investing multi millions have made a rip roaring success of what £30k p.a. profit? Actually, maybe having missed our anniversary was the experience needed for fucking this one up too.... HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 55,254 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 1 hour ago, Bluekev said: A project manager was hired to oversee the renovation and he got sacked due to the calamity. Yeah heard that fall guy story.... he can join Bisgrove in sharing blame. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Enclosure Row N 2,894 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 2 hours ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: He knew how to generate revenue alright, and how to BS his ways to promotions, but what on his CV or in general you're aware of gave him the experience or the skill set to successfully manage a complex and tight timescaled building / renovation project? Like it or not, he brought more money into our club than anyone has for a very, very long time. KeyserSoze 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluekev 46,694 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 38 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Yeah heard that fall guy story.... he can join Bisgrove in sharing blame. I’m not saying Bisgrove is totally innocent but he’s a sales and marketing man. He probably knows the square root of fuck all about construction Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 55,254 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 15 minutes ago, East Enclosure Row N said: Like it or not, he brought more money into our club than anyone has for a very, very long time. Yes, that's what he was good at, even though it was a low starting place. I wouldn't put Arnold Clarks best salesperson in charge of building a new showroom but it seems Rangers thought something similar was a good idea for us... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 55,254 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 3 hours ago, KeyserSoze said: There’s nothing to say Bisgrove wasn’t competent to take it on. He oversaw a 250% increase in commercial and sponsorship income. The biggest growth of any premiership club. Problem was he fucked off at the start of the extension chasing the dosh of Saudi. 16 minutes ago, Bluekev said: I’m not saying Bisgrove is totally innocent but he’s a sales and marketing man. He probably knows the square root of fuck all about construction I agree. I doubt he was competent, if he ever was fully responsible. It's not me arguing he was competent for this development work, see Keysore above. It maybe is convenient to blame him and some project manager (has this been verified yet?) to take the heat off Bennett. Bluekev and BLUEDIGNITY 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 15,194 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 3 hours ago, .Williamson. said: Has it? What have we made from it? Genuine question btw because I don’t have much of a clue about EH. Turning a small profit in the first 8 months is excellent. Something to build on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 15,194 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 1 hour ago, Bluekev said: I’m not saying Bisgrove is totally innocent but he’s a sales and marketing man. He probably knows the square root of fuck all about construction My point earlier was he oversaw the construction and renovations of EH the new store and the museum. so he wasn’t completely naive. Bluekev 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 44,995 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 2 hours ago, the goal machine said: Yeah, very true. Would probably say at least 10x for it to have any meaningful impact. 300k profit annually would barely make a mark. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluekev 46,694 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 34 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: My point earlier was he oversaw the construction and renovations of EH the new store and the museum. so he wasn’t completely naive. They most likely had a project manager for that who reported back to him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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