graeme_4’s official Clement discussion thread

[NixonRFC 1,685]

3 hours ago, gj923 said:

We have played 4 away games in the league scoring once and picking up 4 points.

We have scored once away from home in the league!!!

They have played 5 times away picked up max points and scored about 15 goals

Even the sheep have played 4 games away from home in the league picking up 10 points and have a 100% home record in the league

i do not see our away form changing dramatically and Wednesday will be a true test in front of a form sheep who are averaging just over 2 goals a game at home in the league.

The teams we'll be playing away from home after Pittodrie are a huge downgrade on the games we've had to go to so far, I'm no excusing the results or performances, they haven't been renotely good enough, but you'd still take Ross County, St Johnstone, Motherwell and St Mirren over the piggery, Pittodire and Rugby Park every single time.

[Ambrogio 625]

35 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said:

The fans have turned on the board and a defeat on Wednesday will trigger absolute mutiny amongst the support.

It really is a massive game for not only the team but the club.

This . Any dropped points and it’s going to get really ugly towards the board/ players / manager . It’s coming , it’s just a cause of when . 

[B1872 22,079]

Clement is clinging on and we are on the brink of absolute carnage amongst the support. St Mirren have won 1 game in 11 and lost 3 in a row yet they were a few inches away from taking the lead with the offside goal. Our domestic record is absolutely fucking howling. We’ve scraped past the worst teams in the league like Hibs and St Mirren at Ibrox whilst dropping points to the likes of Hearts and Kilmarnock who have had their worst starts in years. If we come up against any decent opposition then we’ll crumble. We are a mess on the field and off the field and really feels like there is no hope going forward as we are just limping from one fuck up to another. We need changes of epic proportions to sort the mess out the club is in. Losing to the sheep on Wednesday and going 9 points behind before fucking Halloween is fucking sickening tbh!

[Ambrogio 625]

I understand managers can’t come out and say everybody is crap but the stuff clement is coming away with is an insult to our intelligence.

[B1872 22,079]

25 minutes ago, AGM_72 said:

Folk shouldn't accept it. 

Some of the posts on FF or H&H podcasts are actually quite sickening as people are clearly accepting it - not David Edgar right enough but the one this morning was fucking embarrassing. They keep trotting out lines like “rebuild”, “wasn’t expecting anything this season”, “FFP” and “we need to deal with it as it’s not the clubs fault”. Protests should’ve been happening long before now and these cunts running the club have got away with murder.

[Swagger 9,167]

You can pretty much write this season off because what we are seeing isn’t going to change 

Danilo ? Nope looks like an absolute crock of shit

Cortes ? Probably out for the season knowing us 

I don’t actually want the current set up given any money in January as chances are they’ll bring in more shite

Honestly no idea where the club goes from here. 
 

Hopeless 

[Stunels 1,402]

2 minutes ago, B1872 said:

Some of the posts on FF or H&H podcasts are actually quite sickening as people are clearly accepting it - not David Edgar right enough but the one this morning was fucking embarrassing. They keep trotting out lines like “rebuild”, “waste expecting anything this season”, “FFP” and “we need to deal with it as it’s not the clubs fault”. Protests should’ve been happening long before now and these cunts running the club have got away with murder.

Folk who accept it are just trying to convince themselves Clement can improve because they dont think we have the money to sack him.  Club is in a shit situation.  That being said, a better manager would improve everything tenfold.

 

Anyone with a football brain knows his days are numbered.

[Swagger 9,167]

8 minutes ago, B1872 said:

Clement is clinging on and we are on the brink of absolute carnage amongst the support. St Mirren have won 1 game in 11 and lost 3 in a row yet they were a few inches away from taking the lead with the offside goal. Our domestic record is absolutely fucking howling. We’ve scraped past the worst teams in the league like Hibs and St Mirren at Ibrox whilst dropping points to the likes of Hearts and Kilmarnock who have had their worst starts in years. If we come up against any decent opposition then we’ll crumble. We are a mess on the field and off the field and really feels like there is no hope going fired as we are just limping from one fuck up to another. We need changes of epic proportions to sort the mess out the club is in. Losing to the sheep on Wednesday and going 9 points behind before fucking Halloween is fucking sickening tbh!

Going forward there is nothing in this current squad and set up that’s going to change any time soon. 
If we scrape into the league cup final it’ll take a miracle to win it. League is finished and the only way of getting the Scottish Cup would be to hope we get easy draws and some other cunt knocks of celtic and Aberdeen 

There is zero enthusiasm for this shite 

[Stunels 1,402]

1 minute ago, Swagger said:

Going forward there is nothing in this current squad and set up that’s going to change any time soon. 
If we scrape into the league cup final it’ll take a miracle to win it. League is finished and the only way of getting the Scottish Cup would be to hope we get easy draws and some other cunt knocks of celtic and Aberdeen 

There is zero enthusiasm for this shite 

28th October.  Depressing.

[Swagger 9,167]

1 minute ago, Stunels said:

Folk who accept it are just trying to convince themselves Clement can improve because they dont think we have the money to sack him.  Club is in a shit situation.  That being said, a better manager would improve everything tenfold.

 

Anyone with a football brain knows his days are numbered.

I honestly don’t think the cunt is going anywhere 

Our board would accept runner up in the League cup and second place in the League 

If we at some point overtake Aberdeen it’ll be dressed up as a fucking success 

The Board and Management are turning the fans against the club 

[Swagger 9,167]

Just now, Stunels said:

28th October.  Depressing.

And it was finished weeks ago 

[Stunels 1,402]

1 minute ago, Swagger said:

I honestly don’t think the cunt is going anywhere 

Our board would accept runner up in the League cup and second place in the League 

If we at some point overtake Aberdeen it’ll be dressed up as a fucking success 

The Board and Management are turning the fans against the club 

Not sure if the mentality shift is due to the fact that we started this season completely unable to compete or if the board are genuinely gearing the club towards perpetual 2nd place.  Either way there is a massive disconnect between management and fans which really needs to be resolved.  

Personally dont see clement finishing the season as the board will sack him when the fans erupt to cover their own backs.

[B1872 22,079]

3 minutes ago, Stunels said:

Not sure if the mentality shift is due to the fact that we started this season completely unable to compete or if the board are genuinely gearing the club towards perpetual 2nd place.  Either way there is a massive disconnect between management and fans which really needs to be resolved.  

Personally dont see clement finishing the season as the board will sack him when the fans erupt to cover their own backs.

This going to sound fucked but I honestly believe the Board think they are doing a good job and things aren’t that bad. Thats the only thing I can think of when trying to get my head round how they’ve run the club. It’s sheer arrogance and incompetence!

[theiconicman 3,221]

2 minutes ago, B1872 said:

This going to sound fucked but I honestly believe the Board think they are doing a good job and things aren’t that bad. Thats the only thing I can think of when trying to get my head round how they’ve run the club. It’s sheer arrogance and incompetence!

It's not, it's just typical modern PR. Ignore reality and push your narrative. Gaslighting in other words.

[JackAlex93 12,997]

Could easily take a hiding on Wednesday night with this utter buffoon in charge. I'm absolutely dreading it

[Craiggybear 6,557]

2 minutes ago, JackAlex93 said:

Could easily take a hiding on Wednesday night with this utter buffoon in charge. I'm absolutely dreading it

Trust his credentials mate... 

[.Williamson. 88,227]

Rebuild requires being able to see progress. We are going completely fucking backwards at a ridiculous rate.

This isn’t a rebuild it’s an utter clusterfuck. 

[Lord Lockin 4,031]

24 minutes ago, Swagger said:

And it was finished weeks ago 

Was finished before a ball was kicked.

[BlueSuedeSambas 56,994]

44 minutes ago, Stunels said:

28th October.  Depressing.

League was finished before a ball was kicked this season. We never had a chance 

[gj923 1,473]

46 minutes ago, NixonRFC said:

The teams we'll be playing away from home after Pittodrie are a huge downgrade on the games we've had to go to so far, I'm no excusing the results or performances, they haven't been renotely good enough, but you'd still take Ross County, St Johnstone, Motherwell and St Mirren over the piggery, Pittodire and Rugby Park every single time.

This is history repeating itself all the way back to Warburton where we are discussing what do we expect the team to do in the next run of fixtures and at some point they will slip up when they least expect it and drop points. We have continually bar one year did this every season where yes other teams slip up but you can guarantee we do it more especially when we are under pressure.

Four of our 6 wins in the league have been by a single goal and whilst it is still the same 3 points for a win sooner or later a team is going to get fortunate and we drop more points.

[KingKirk 26,617]

Wednesday night regardless will not be the end and anybody believing otherwise is just going to be disappointed. 

My stance on this hasn't changed put any manager in world football in charge at the moment they'd struggle again anybody believing a change of manager and this shitshow stops is kidding themselves on. 

We've got 1 acceptable CB at the club, no acceptable forward, bang avarage midfield. 

Get to the summer and change then do not burden any new manager with this mess. 

 

[The Godfather 76,149]

3 minutes ago, KingKirk said:

Wednesday night regardless will not be the end and anybody believing otherwise is just going to be disappointed. 

My stance on this hasn't changed put any manager in world football in charge at the moment they'd struggle again anybody believing a change of manager and this shitshow stops is kidding themselves on. 

We've got 1 acceptable CB at the club, no acceptable forward, bang avarage midfield. 

Get to the summer and change then do not burden any new manager with this mess. 

 

Sheer delusion.

[TamCoopz 20,215]

45 minutes ago, Craiggybear said:

Trust his credentials mate... 

Seems like glens have been supplying him with free vodka ever since those motm awards 

[theiconicman 3,221]

14 minutes ago, KingKirk said:

Wednesday night regardless will not be the end and anybody believing otherwise is just going to be disappointed. 

My stance on this hasn't changed put any manager in world football in charge at the moment they'd struggle again anybody believing a change of manager and this shitshow stops is kidding themselves on. 

We've got 1 acceptable CB at the club, no acceptable forward, bang avarage midfield. 

Get to the summer and change then do not burden any new manager with this mess. 

 

Regardless of the players, our manager can’t play to their strengths. We should be comfortably second, we’re struggling to be 3rd. 
 

There are managers in this league that would improve us from where we are. They won’t take us where we need to go but the fact they be better than Clement is sad. 

[B1872 22,079]

It’s fucking wild in 2024 we are relying on Leon Balogun plus having Dessers as our only striker. The transfer window that in Clements words was “6 months in the making” has been an absolute shitshow. Anyone trying to stick up for him or claiming he isn’t a massive part of the problem need their head examined tbh!