KazzyTI 267 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 39 minutes ago, BlueAvenger said: The story is from a biased reporter and paper with unnamed sources. I left the North Stand when the police horses went onto the park. I went along Somerville Drive and Cathcart Road where thousands of Gers fans were walking. Police vans were moving slow or stationary because of the volume of fans and a few cars on Cathcart Road. There were no sirens and they made no real effort to get through. They sat on their arses and done fuck all. Some fans did sarcastically cheered and applauded them for appearing after the trouble on the park was over. I didn't see anyone preventing Police vans getting through. No excuses, the Police were fuckin useless. This is exactly my experience. I left from B4 as the police horses entered the pitch and the halfway line cordon was established. I consoled my nephew and we went outside to meet a couple of minutes at the big sign before heading back to our bus. By the time we'd left, waited and walked up to the road, there were still no vans on the scene. Traffic was bad because of the volume of fans leaving and traffic not flowing (as has been the case for any big game at Hampden since the dawn of time). It wasn't until we were halfway along the road to the bus that any police vans appeared. There was some anger (righteous in my opinion) vented that the police were not on location at the stadium and the abuse was predominantly verbal but at absolutely no point was there any impediment to these vans from a Rangers fans standpoint and certainly not with any children. It's a claim that is disingenuous at best and criminally libellous at worst. An utter disgrace that this has went to print and all the worse for the good work fellow bears have put into uncovering the reporter as a rabid tarrier cow. This must be addressed and fucking strongly because this is a case of painting us out as the root cause of all evil again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromDeAnglais 5,470 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Police covering up failings at a football game? That's never happened. Not comparing the two events but still. The police should hold their hands up when they make an arse of it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithgersbear 3,225 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 You look at the police sometimes and just think it is a big legalized mob. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithgersbear 3,225 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 That Jane journalist has quotes on Twitter calling Rangers fans H***. How is she a paid journalist reporting on this is beyond me. It beggars belief. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon 1,743 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I sent a long winded email this morning when I read the story, not usually something I would do. I just can't get my head round this about nonsense. The lack of accountability on the police's part is absolutely shocking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougie76 15,359 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Any Rangers support who funds that rag needs to take a fucking good look at themselves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyleh1872 87 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Ridiculous statement, already spoke to a few people at work who support a range of teams, everyone one of them said that it is bull shit and made the reference to the hillsborough (police cover up) The toilet paper that has written this as well needs to be held to account. From all this apparent violence and mayhem that took place they could only get information from one person? and there is zero video evidence from fans or passers by or anything. Pretty confident this mini riot that we apparently caused would have drawn some attention. Typical police force looking after their lofty salary and pension will do anything to avoid punishment or even to simply admit the truth. Almost a week its taken for this story to "break" i always felt that the police were 95% responsible for this, and this attempt to wriggle out of any responsibility/blame shows it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Everyone who was there should send a complaint to Police Scotland. Perhaps contact Rangers too. This is a blatant lie and we cannot be held responsible for their gross incompetence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 1 minute ago, cushynumber said: That is the worst type of deflection I have read so far in this debacle and the whole thing has taken an extremely sinister turn when the countries police force openly start to side against a section of society and it is roundly welcomed and spun by the media. Police men and women are always going to struggle to get into a stadium when thousands of fans are leaving, to use that as an excuse beggers belief. However that is a side issue. For the Police to sanction this story (and sanction it they would have as its obviously a spin job) they are now involved wholeheartedly in pushing the blame for this on to Rangers fans to mitigate some of their own culpability, and as some have said, Hillsborough spring immediately to mind in that respect. We have a media with supposedly impartial journalists and broadcasters openly lying about what went on on Saturday, we have SFA Board members trying to ignore the Hibs fans role in the whole thing or putting it all down to exuberance, we have our very own First Minister trying to whitewash the entire incident as if it never happened - going so far as to simply ignore videoed assaults on Rangers players - and now the Police have weighed in with a very open attempt to blame Rangers fans. To be honest I was never one for conspiracy theorys but there is is obviously an anti Rangers campaign here that encompasses top politicians, policing and the media. I am flabbergasted that this could happen in Scotland and as I say this is an extremely sinister turn. Bang on with that and it has being going on for a very long time. We are the fly in the ointment of the chattering classes and make a great story. Just a pity it is mainly in our demonisation. D'Art was bang on a few days ago in his article when he used the dehumanisation of our fans paraphrase, because that is exactly what is going on. I go back four years in that we made our mistake in not making our stand against the SFA/SPL at the time. We compromised due to our new owners wanting and needing to make money. Our new owners then raped us, as the authorities have done so ever since, arising out of that initial weakness. It was a mistake that we have lived to regret. Our only chance of redemption and turning it all around, is by doing it on the park and taking the titles, as that is the one thing that our haters done thier level best in trying to make sure that we never again achieve. From the politicos in power to the clubs and their fans, we are the fly in the ointment and all that is bad, they all point to our club. They have done their job well, but not well enough, as we have them all confounded and worried, as we haven't went away and we ARE back, but our journey will remain a treacherous one as we are again seeing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,647 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 35 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said: You know, even the timing of this conspires against us, as we go into the close season, making it more difficult to organise a mass demo, unless you are a taig or a yesser, who do appear more of a mind in doing these type of things. A mass demo is just one of many strands in a campaign, but it is one of the best at attracting maximum publicity in getting the message accross as it shows that we are prepared to stand up and be counted in our fight for justice, no matter the spin officialdom or the mhedia try to put on it, it will stick in the minds of the public and it is a tactic that governments hate because of this. We did it before with one of our heroes at the helm, in the late great Sandy Jardine. We could do it again, if we have the mind and the will. From officialdom's side, the more lies perpetuated against us the better, as they are to good effect in the propaganda campaign against. Expect many more, as this is not the end of it. Plenty more to come especially when police scotland are compromised and tainted with outside influences! They knew who they were employing with this new chief of police! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/12186833/Nicola-Sturgeon-loans-press-chief-to-Police-Scotland.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanMK 4,670 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Even if this was at all true it still doesn't explain the failings in security which allowed all those fans to rush onto the pitch in the first place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyleh1872 87 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 29 minutes ago, heathen fish boy said: Any Bears on twitter,don't bite on the journo,they're obviously fishing for another story here,don't take the bait Very important point, it detracts from our argument too often when people give these "journalists" abuse etc. needs to be done the right way, questions questions and more questions not abuse! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFTONG 60,108 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 7 minutes ago, DeanMK said: Even if this was at all true it still doesn't explain the failings in security which allowed all those fans to rush onto the pitch in the first place. My anger stems from the FACT that it IS NOT TRUE... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
don logan 8,062 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I stopped reading at the sub headline "Using children as roadblocks" FFS...................that it is uber nonsense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCRobertson 11,778 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, DeanMK said: Even if this was at all true it still doesn't explain the failings in security which allowed all those fans to rush onto the pitch in the first place. You know, I'm actually pretty shocked that David Gray didn't get booked for celebrating with the fans. Something we've gotten booked for in plenty supply. And because he ran to the fans, the fans went closer to the barrier. So you could even say he had a part to play in the pitch invasion due to his celebration. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanMK 4,670 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Just now, TEFTONG said: My anger stems from the FACT that it IS NOT TRUE... Don't doubt it. Article written by a Celtic fan as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueoutthedome 87 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Jane Hamilton a bigot employed by a bigot of a newspaper this person has to be sacked and reported to snp police Scotland for the use of the H** word but we all know that is not going to happen not in this shit hole of a country. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom0411 1,226 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I smell shoite!!! I left hampdump around 10 mins after the game finished and on the way out via the Hampden Taxi route we passed around 3 groups of marching plod 1 group of trotting plod and around 3 to 4 vans. Everyone of them was given dogs abuse from our fans with lots of sarcastic cheering & clapping. On turning into Battlefield lo & behold 3 vans with "support group" on the side came through the lights with their sirens on and flashing lights again lots of sarcastic jeering. No sign of vans being jostled and kamikaze children only jeering and clapping. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,722 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I would request and back a club driven boycott of SC away games forthwith. Not league, just this cup pending an honest, transparent and fair inquiry result being produced. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGOH 2,344 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 As some have said, if they are openly saying that there was a "barrage" of Rangers fans "ambushing" them on Cathcart Rd/Prospecthill Rd, that's what still a good distance from the stadium? Why were they that far away? There were was a clear as day agenda against Rangers before Saturday, but this takes it to a whole new fucking level. The Club must act now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Completely 100% blatantly false. Statement required Rangers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 4 minutes ago, BLUEDIGNITY said: Plenty more to come especially when police scotland are compromised and tainted with outside influences! They knew who they were employing with this new chief of police! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/12186833/Nicola-Sturgeon-loans-press-chief-to-Police-Scotland.html Ooft! You know how to depress a person. So nicky sends the government's chief press officer to improve plod's image. She just didn't say it would be at our expense, but I suppose she didn't have to. Well that explains much about the post match press releases in demonising us. They probably couldn't have believed their luck, in that it was us. The perfect scapegoat to get the heat of them and a double whammy for the gov. In again setting us up as all that is wrong with the society. We certainly will be taking a battering in the mhedia with this cunt heading up plod's communications. It's all starting to fall into place and as I said, this IS all coming from the top! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Lies, lies and more lies. Your not getting way with it this time thimmy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,450 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 https://mobile.twitter.com/Lindz810/status/735720471040163841/video/1 Aye mob mentality Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,911 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Considering robbing a bank and using 12 yr old kids to block the polis from reaching the scene.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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