I live in England and had the same commentators McClean and McCoist. Could have been a radio commentary that was picked up but its always the same, its like getting the half wit Crocker on Sky all the time.
BT Sport seems to only employ taigs or their sympathisers. Plenty of brutal English commentators around although less agenda driven.
When we "lost" Mclean and McCoist there was an English commentary that kicked in. Pretty sure they must have been doing the commentary for the English. I may be wrong though. In any case McLean,s an arsehole and one of the worst I have heard. Not only his obvious dislike for us, which he canny hide, but the fact is that he,s just fuckin brutal.
I would much prefer listening to the English commentary. They might get their facts wrong sometimes but there,s no agenda.
Luckily everyone in the video got the joke. The clue is the laughs and smirks.
Technically jokes are lies. technically everyone's who ever lived is a liar. Technically, until you've donated to the RM Erskine Fund, your opinion on here ain't worth shit.
Yes, another joke. We;ll spotted!
in fairness they did have some really good chances in the first half. We could easily have lost 2 goals. But the 2nd half there was only one team in it. The media reporting though...concentrate on the malmo ( ?) good and rangers bad
My dad was an agent in the 70s, as well. Remember going over to Ibrox with him for that.
Feel like an old fart when I realise how many on here have never seen a pools coupon... ?
Was an agent many moons ago. I'm sure it was the same five numbers you had each week but the teams your numbers referred to changed each week and it was basically the highest scoring teams that won the prizes.
On a side note a good friend of ours works with Littlewood pools in Liverpool and he was telling us that they will be running it on behalf of Rangers.
I don't know if this has been posted elsewhere, but my wife had just sent me this ref a mins applause at tomorrow's game for an ex Soldier who has taken his own life
Morning all i am looking for a bit of help to get an around of a applause done at the game on thursday on the 14th minute for a good mate jamie davies who has sadly taken his own life due to the demons he was facing from having served our british army. Jamie was a sniper in 4 scots the highlanders and was a die hard Rangers man and myself and all others that has served with and along side him think this would be a fitting send off to our brother. Please could you help sort this out for us and help spread the word about PTSD and the affects it has on ex service men/women like him. Thanks Paul Donaldson and Steven Wilkinson ?⚪️? NS WATP
My BP has just went up 20 points, again!
If the ptejudice was only restricted to policing.
The series of events related to us, is it just Incompetence or the tools of a political agenda being brought into play or most probably both for me.
Can someone show me that PS are not working to the political agenda of SNPira and where does it all end?
We have little enough voice. Ignored and demonised, no matter the evidence in our favour. We go full indy and the republic of Scotland won't be worth living in.
Excellent post @D'Artagnan
The lack of accountability at Police Scotland with regards to the cup final and more recent events is due partly to a lack of political pressure from the Scottish government and all the political parties in Scotland looking the other way when we rightly point to failings and inconsistencies in policing.
Put simply we are fair game and those who wrong us do so with impunity in Scotland and have been for years.
Rangers fans could be forgiven their wry smiles on hearing the motto of the Scottish Police Service, Semper Vigilo – Always Vigilant. One could point to the massive banners depicting them as “H** Scum”, somehow smuggled past the “vigilant” officers or perhaps the inflatable effigies which were then hung from the rafters of celtic Park, an action which again managed to escape the gaze of Scotland’s finest. Meanwhile Northern Irish Rangers supporters, carrying the flag of their country, find them being seized by Police Officers as they attempt to enter Ibrox, on the pretext of them being “sectarian”. The fact that the latter has happened on more than one occasion, accompanied by a subsequent apology from Police Scotland, suggests someone, somewhere is not paying attention.
The job of the Police is difficult and challenging, particularly at football matches, exacerbated by a recent increase in whataboutery and individuals being faux offended, much of which is played out across social media platforms.
Warwick University, WBS Research Projects offers the following explanation on Public Confidence:
“For any police force to be effective in safeguarding the public, retaining public confidence is critical. This is because the public are a key source of information, and their trust and cooperation are often key to law enforcement.”
But that trust has to be earned and two significant incidents which pertain to public safety, and which rise above the simply annoying or exasperating examples cited in the opening paragraph, have significantly eroded the confidence and trust of Rangers supporters with regard to Police Scotland.
The aftermath of the 2016 William Hill Scottish Cup Final still rankles with many Rangers supporters. As someone who was there, and who witnessed first hand the events which unfolded, I sill find it particularly difficult, that 30 seconds after the final whistle standing in the traditional Rangers end at Hampden, I was faced with a Hibs fan standing not 50 yards from me in the six yard box challenging and goading myself and other Rangers supporters to fight. This individual’s course of conduct had nothing to do with joy, celebration nor overexuberance and any attempts to explain it or rationalise it as such are quite simply erroneous.
But its events off the pitch which served to undermine confidence in the Police. As Rangers supporters raised questions about the preparation, speed and deployment strategy of the Police, they found themselves in the eye of a storm as accusations were levelled that Rangers fans had used their own children as barricades to hinder and impede officers reacting to the ongoing situation at Hampden. The author of the story, Jane Hamilton from the Scottish Daily Record, appeared to receive corroborative assistance from Callum Steele of the Scottish Police Federation, who tweeted that this version of events was consistent with reports he had received from officers on duty that day.
The Independent Press Standard Organisation (IPSO) ruling following a complaint regarding the story can be read in full here:
https://www.ipso.co.uk/rulings-and-resolution-statements/ruling/?id=03188-16
Both Jane Hamilton and Callum Steele remain in post.
The SFA ordered an independent Commission into the disorder which was chaired by Sheriff Principal Edward F Bowen CBE QC. Regretfully, I am unable to guide you to an unabridged version of his findings, as the SFA, for reasons best known to themselves, have decided to no longer promulgate his report.
https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/resources/documents/documents/scottishcupfinal2016report/scottish cup final 2016 commission of enquiry - report of sp bowen.pdf
Since publication, Rangers have contested the findings of the report and official statements from the club reflected that.
"We can state however that we will be seeking an urgent meeting with the author of the report, Sheriff Principal Edward Bowen, the Scottish FA’s Chief Executive Stewart Regan and his Compliance Officer, Tony McGlennan.
It is imperative that we gain insight into the underlying basis for the findings in the report given that we consider it contains a number of factual inaccuracies and contradictions.
It is right that the club gives the author and requisitioner of the report the opportunity to comment on our concerns prior to making a conclusive statement.”
Such concerns were not without foundation.
Although not widely reported by the press, who focussed on the report’s main findings namely:
· Police and steward numbers were appropriate
· Neither club to blame for crowd trouble
· Call for debate on criminalising pitch invasions
· Physical interaction between players and fans to be discouraged
· Retractable tunnel could improve player safety
· Pitch invasion sparked by Hibs fans' high excitement
· Overwhelming majority of Rangers fans behaved properly
there was also remarks in the report regarding intelligence prior to the match itself.
In the absence of the complete report I will refer to this exert from the Edinburgh Evening News dated 5th August, 2016.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/report-concludes-hampden-pitch-invasion-down-to-high-excitement-1-4195707
In particular, I would draw your attention to this paragraph:
“Mr Bowen said he was satisfied both clubs and the Scottish Football Association took reasonable precautions to minimise the possibility of a pitch invasion. He concluded there was no evidence to suggest the pitch invasion was planned, that the Hibs support had not been infiltrated by individuals holding some form of malicious intent, and that while some supporters were affected by alcohol, both male and female, that hadn’t played a significant part in what happened.”
On the Monday following the Cup Final, BBC Radio Scotland hastily scheduled a phone in hosted by Kaye Adams, to discuss the events and the aftermath. It consisted of both Hibs and Rangers fans phoning in to offer their own versions on events. I mention this programme because some of the Hibs supporters phoning in made reference to the fact it was all over social media, that in the event of a Hibs victory there would be a pitch invasion.
Given the vast galaxy which is social media it is not unreasonable to accept that those responsible for either Policing pre-match intelligence may have missed this, but for the subsequent investigation and report into the aftermath to either miss or totally discount testimony which has been aired by the country’s national publicly funded broadcaster?
Rangers supporters are more than familiar with the failings and selective nature of “low-level intelligence gathering”
Fast forwarding to last week and the reputation and confidence in Police Scotland suffered further erosion following the Rangers vs Osijek tie at Ibrox, which was marred by violent disorder prior to the match. Concerningly for Police Scotland, criticism of policing arrangements came not only from Rangers supporters but also from Paul Goodwin, former head of Supporters Direct and co-founder of the Scottish Football Supporters Association, who accused the Police of being blindsided and failing to take into account the violent reputation of Croatian fans.
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/16398308.police-scotland-deemed-Rangers-match-which-saw-two-stabbed-to-be-low-risk/
Whilst I appreciate I do not have access to the resources, expertise and research facilities of analysts at Police Scotland, my somewhat crude google searches tend to suggest Mr Goodwin may have a point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6dKP4tpzNU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR7WATnpigY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r9DAclKcGY
It is perhaps worthy of note that the violence involving Osijek fans in Switzerland was only last year, which makes Chief Inspector Bowater’s assertion that there was “no intelligence” to suggest extra policing was required, particularly difficult to fathom.
Warwick University Research Projects, previously mentioned, goes further in its examination of Public Confidence in the Police, citing the various array of measurements used by the Police to gauge and determine such confidence, including customer satisfaction surveys.
Of course in order to ensure favourable feedback, Police Scotland could tailor their customer satisfaction phone calls to 3pm every other Saturday when Rangers supporters are likely to be elsewhere, or alternatively, they could afford Rangers supporters the same level of commitment, transparency, protection and treatment which everyone in Scotland is entitled to expect from them.
Don't blame the player for it; Player can't speak English too well and he comes out with stuff like that? Traynor has his dabs all over these "interviews".
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