martin93 136 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 we have been punished for it.By UEFA , nothing would happen to us in the SPL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZX750 31 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 we have been punished for it.When?For smashing a bus window in Villarreal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 When?For smashing a bus window in Villarreal?no Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 By UEFA , nothing would happen to us in the SPL.thats quite a statment considering they have warned us twice about it. but you just get your head down nice and deep in the sand and who knows you might be right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millsyrfc1 13 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I can't recall us being punished even by uefa for singing the billy boys, Warned ? Yess but not punished. the only thing uefa punish us for is the crowd trouble which has happend in spain manchester and Romania and more places maybe I can't recall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterC 12,287 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 In a liberal democracy like the one in which we live you cannot deny people freedom of expression. If they want to sing that and are denied then thats freedom of expression out the window and a whole can of worms is opened up. We should be allowed to sing it, if others dont like what is being sung then tough, we live in a democracy where everybody has the right to express themselves within the law. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 and if your Maw had baws she'd be yer Da. What do you want me to say to that exactly? it's all whataboutary.Considering we have already been censured by uefa it isn't really "whataboutary" (not sure you have grasped what that word is actually meant to mean) Exactly the sort of answer i expected to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkgers 3 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Ok come forth supporters groups who have ran to the orange faced rat Bain to complain about the Rangers fans singing sectarian songs.......... Cant see it being the Union Bears so thats them ruled out, and it seems multiple supporters groups are complaining, if they dont come forward lets oust them out ourselves! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I don't think the SPL will touch it while the tims use that word in the McCourt song.Can of worms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I can't recall us being punished even by uefa for singing the billy boys, Warned ? Yess but not punished. the only thing uefa punish us for is the crowd trouble which has happend in spain manchester and Romania and more places maybe I can't recall.http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/5064472.stm Chef 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Considering we have already been censured by uefa it isn't really "whataboutary" (not sure you have grasped what that word is actually meant to mean) Exactly the sort of answer i expected to be honest.I do know what that word means. It's in relation if if's and but's. I was led to believe UEFA told Rangers is was a Scottish cultural issue? we were singing Billy Boys in places like Barcelona, Stuttgart and Werder Bremen in the aftermath, loudly, why no fines and bans?anyway, Im away to get pished. Have a nice night. Hopefully the other lads continue you and Slingers education. GeneralCartmanLee 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AldoKrfc 106 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 When TBB gets sung the atmosphere is better than anywhere in the world n if some people dont mind that changing, and sitting in a quiet stadium yous are just PC wanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin93 136 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 thats quite a statment considering they have warned us twice about it. but you just get your head down nice and deep in the sand and who knows you might be right.Lol you say what you want and believe what you want if you dont want to sing it then up to you i havent got a problem but for the people that do want to sing then just leave us to it we all do what we want If you think anyone in Scotland would punish us you are deluded , the Billy Boys has been sung at home games for a while and it gets sung at the majority of the away games, nothing has happened and nothing will Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 you know what when my club asks me not to do something because they are worried about the consequences of doing it i listen. sure maybe your all right and you can belt it out all you want and noone will say a word and maybe it will go the other way and we will be sanctionedbut i tell you what the club wont get into bother for anything i sing at matches that for sure. you guys do what you thinks right and ill do what rangers ask. Chef 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I do know what that word means. It's in relation if if's and but's. I was led to believe UEFA told Rangers is was a Scottish cultural issue? we were singing Billy Boys in places like Barcelona, Stuttgart and Werder Bremen in the aftermath, loudly, why no fines and bans?anyway, Im away to get pished. Have a nice night. Hopefully the other lads continue you and Slingers education.So you don't know what the word means and still haven't answered the questionEnjoy your bacardi breezers..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millsyrfc1 13 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/5064472.stmFair enough but why have they not followed this up with more fines or ban's as it has been heard clearly in a good few more of the CL matches ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffbear 4,096 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Apart from when the chairman of the day told everyone the song was banned. They don't want the billy boys sung, people need to get over it.This stupid debate about a song has gone on so long that the vast majority of people have stopped caring, myself included. People should just sing what they want, i'm sure you will all be man enough to take the consequences if ,or when, they come.....Who cares what celtic say or how they say it.Who is he to tell me what i can sing and what i can't........especially when it doesn't contravene any acts whether racist or sectarian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I do know what that word means. It's in relation if if's and but's. I was led to believe UEFA told Rangers is was a Scottish cultural issue? we were singing Billy Boys in places like Barcelona, Stuttgart and Werder Bremen in the aftermath, loudly, why no fines and bans?anyway, Im away to get pished. Have a nice night. Hopefully the other lads continue you and Slingers education.you are sitting here arguing and you dont even have a clue what went on. unbelievable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffbear 4,096 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 you know what when my club asks me not to do something because they are worried about the consequences of doing it i listen. sure maybe your all right and you can belt it out all you want and noone will say a word and maybe it will go the other way and we will be sanctionedbut i tell you what the club wont get into bother for anything i sing at matches that for sure. you guys do what you thinks right and ill do what rangers ask.You keep doin as your told and we'll make up our own minds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVB 2,560 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I wish I'd thought of starting a thread about this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Fair enough but why have they not followed this up with more fines or ban's as it has been heard clearly in a good few more of the CL matches ?No idea, doesn't mean they don't have the pwoer to.I agree that it seems to have been dropped by the authorities but i don't think it's worth the risk. As i have said multiple times in this thread, and seems to have been ignored, sing what you want but if UEFA do come calling people can't complain if we get hammered and people will know exactly who to blame Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I don't think the SPL will touch it while the tims use that word in the McCourt song.Can of worms.yeah their a pretty fair and impartial orgonisation when it comes to us. i dont think they will make us play a game 4 days before a uefa final not after they gave the vermin 7 days of. oh wait i think they might have done that already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin93 136 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 you know what when my club asks me not to do something because they are worried about the consequences of doing it i listen. sure maybe your all right and you can belt it out all you want and noone will say a word and maybe it will go the other way and we will be sanctionedbut i tell you what the club wont get into bother for anything i sing at matches that for sure. you guys do what you thinks right and ill do what rangers ask.How about the club start defending us better etc etc ,without the fans there would be no club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Who is he to tell me what i can sing and what i can't........especially when it doesn't contravene any acts whether racist or sectarian.He owns the club, he sets the rules.I don't know the scottish sectarian breach laws that well, as they were introduced around the time i left the country, but can you not get done under that for singing the billy boys ? I am sure i have read cases online where people have ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Who is he to tell me what i can sing and what i can't........especially when it doesn't contravene any acts whether racist or sectarian.good luck with that in court. i promise you you can be arrested and convicted for sectarian breach for singing the billy boys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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