KingKirk 25,655 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Vanoli said: kovalev so on point at the moment. ward will catch him at some point Imo it'll then be about if he can finish it at that point Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,655 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 nearly floored with a jab ward must be like hitting your head constantly against concrete Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanoli 4,625 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 5 minutes ago, KingKirk said: ward will catch him at some point Imo it'll then be about if he can finish it at that point not a chance he'll stop kovalev. he can still take over and dominate points from here. 48-47 kovalev at the moment. KingKirk 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Band of Brothers 10,303 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Fucking would love a kebab while watching this TheKingObv and KingKirk 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,655 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 ward having some success Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Band of Brothers 10,303 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 7 minutes ago, KingKirk said: ward having some success Aye just not got the power but what a fight Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanoli 4,625 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Andre warming up just in time Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 4,654 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Belfast card was good as fuck but that Brazil card was mostly trash! The Bellator card had some fun fights, especially that main event between Chandler and Ben Henderson - a great fight! Michael Chandler channelling Chris Benoit Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,655 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 1 minute ago, ex-guardsman said: Aye just not got the power but what a fight boxing on the tv at sociable hours is overrated some of the best fights this year have been during the night Band of Brothers 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 4,654 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 What a fucking fight Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanoli 4,625 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 116-114 Ward for me, but that's with 3 10-10's. Horrible fight to score. American scorecards for Kovalev are mental. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Band of Brothers 10,303 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 No fucking way that is ridiculous Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the goal machine 7,803 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Extremely close fight, had it the same way as the judges but Kovalev winning the decision wouldn't have been a bad call either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Kool Blue 139 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 I thought Ward won that fight simply by sticking to his boxing, whereas Kovalev seemed to throw one or two punches then look to wrestle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,655 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 It ended a really close fight and can't really argue with the scores tbh either way by 1-2 rounds would've been fair enough Imo. hopefully we see the rematch next cause that was a cracker now for some sleep Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillete 1,338 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 I thought Kovalev never took it by 1 round Couple of judges gave Ward round 12 which won him the fight Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Very close fight, very intriguing and good quality fight (not a thrilling scrap but watchable none the less) - however I had it for Kovalev. My issue with the judges scoring, is Kovalev won nothing on 2 scorecards in the second half of the fight, (indeed 17 rounds out of 18 second half rounds, over the 3 cards, were given to Ward) and...... I think that is generous to Ward and harsh on Kovalev. It is giving Ward every 50/50. It isn't a robbery but Kovalev will feel he deserves more credit on the cards for the 2nd half - and I'd agree with him. Undoubtedly Ward was the stronger in the second half and boxed brilliantly at times. However, I certainly thought Kovalev was worthy of winning, at least, one of 10, 11 & 12. I did score 10 and 12 to Kovalev - 10 I thought was his fairly clear, 12 less so. Rounds 1-6 I had 5-1 Kovalev (I can see 4-2 Kovalev here too) Rounds 7-12 I had 4-2 Ward. Take the knock down and I had it.... 115-112 Kovalev. The other argument is, did Ward do enough to win the belts from the champ? I struggle to say he did. I am of the opinion you give the 50/50s to the Champion, and I think Ward got most of the 50/50s. However, Ward will comfortably win a rematch IMO. He has sussed Kovalev, and is a terrific boxer that is very hard to beat once in full flow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeReadyStu 70 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 2 hours ago, Badger said: Undoubtedly Ward was the stronger in the second half and boxed brilliantly at times. However, I certainly thought Kovalev was worthy of winning, at least, one of 10, 11 & 12. I did score 10 and 12 to Kovalev - 10 I thought was his fairly clear, 12 less so. Rounds 1-6 I had 5-1 Kovalev (I can see 4-2 Kovalev here too) Rounds 7-12 I had 4-2 Ward. Take the knock down and I had it.... 115-112 Kovalev. Stayed up late to catch this last night and I had exactly the same scorecard. 5-1 through the first 6 rounds with 4-2 Ward between 6-12. 115-112 Kovalev in the end. Kovalev won the 10th surely. Kellerman and Lederman gave it to Kovalev too, Lederman on HBO had it 116-111 Kovalev which is a bit too much the other way mind. To give it 114-113, considering I had it 59-54 Kovalev after 6rds, (and considering Ward was on the receiving end of a 10-8 round in the 2nd) you have to give the last 6 rounds to Ward 10-9. I just don't see that unfortunately. Be nice if Ward actually fought someone outside of California/Nevada for once too. hammer93 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1872 20,762 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Should have the return fight in Moscow! ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillete 1,338 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Kathy Duva etc only have themselves to blame allowing a Russian fighter to fight with a referee & the 3 judges (in Nevada of all places) who are all from the USA RangersMedia and The Mailman 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 13 hours ago, Supersonic said: Belfast card was good as fuck but that Brazil card was mostly trash! The Bellator card had some fun fights, especially that main event between Chandler and Ben Henderson - a great fight! Michael Chandler channelling Chris Benoit That's a fucking beast German suplex. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 5 hours ago, B1872 said: Should have the return fight in Moscow! ?? Why? Neither fighter has ever fought there so that would seem a strange choice of venue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillete 1,338 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Page looked awful , UFC won't be banging his door just yet Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 8 hours ago, AyeReadyStu said: Stayed up late to catch this last night and I had exactly the same scorecard. 5-1 through the first 6 rounds with 4-2 Ward between 6-12. 115-112 Kovalev in the end. Kovalev won the 10th surely. Kellerman and Lederman gave it to Kovalev too, Lederman on HBO had it 116-111 Kovalev which is a bit too much the other way mind. To give it 114-113, considering I had it 59-54 Kovalev after 6rds, (and considering Ward was on the receiving end of a 10-8 round in the 2nd) you have to give the last 6 rounds to Ward 10-9. I just don't see that unfortunately. Be nice if Ward actually fought someone outside of California/Nevada for once too. I've watched it back tonight on Sky commentary (I watched an American feed last night as wasn't at home). The Sky commentary is very different to the US. It's such a close fight, but I still think you need to give Ward all the 50/50's to score that for him and I certainly don't think he 'won' the belts off the champion. Band of Brothers 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,057 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 9 hours ago, AyeReadyStu said: Stayed up late to catch this last night and I had exactly the same scorecard. 5-1 through the first 6 rounds with 4-2 Ward between 6-12. 115-112 Kovalev in the end. Kovalev won the 10th surely. Kellerman and Lederman gave it to Kovalev too, Lederman on HBO had it 116-111 Kovalev which is a bit too much the other way mind. To give it 114-113, considering I had it 59-54 Kovalev after 6rds, (and considering Ward was on the receiving end of a 10-8 round in the 2nd) you have to give the last 6 rounds to Ward 10-9. I just don't see that unfortunately. Be nice if Ward actually fought someone outside of California/Nevada for once too. I watched the fight today, I'm no expert but knowing the result I reckoned that ward would need to of won 5 out the last 6 rounds which I don't believe he did. Band of Brothers 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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