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[Ozblue 4,331]

Oh aye, I remember you saying that

The little fucker will outlive me the way she's going

I've been sitting on £3,000 travellers cheques for over a fuckin year now.

[Clemdog 39,389]

Exactly , this attitude of being bigger and better and rising above cunts like spiers has got us to where we are now, we get walked all over by the mhedia

Exactly mate he hates everything about The Rangers, great banner from the UB.

[D'Artagnan 13,319]

I'll start again

Did any of you actually read what I said? I wasn't defending everything he writes and says. I profoundly disagree with him on that issue regarding the British army and many others. He's making a shoddy moral equivalence between the bigoted and sectarian behaviour of Celtic fans and our decent and respectable behaviour with regards to the British army. Where the Celtic fans have problems with bigotry (their fans attitude towards the army and British people in general) Spiers is trying to say that we're making the problem worse by offending the bigots. It's a shoddy argument. It's virtually the same argument that people use when they say that we are the cause of terrorism. If we would only be nicer to Muslims then they wouldn't blow us up. If you followed Spiers' logic then we shouldn't wear poppies, ban union jacks etc. because it might offend the Celtic fans who hate all that for bigoted reasons.

It's quite revealing that he makes these kind of arguments. I'm not sure if it shows that he has an agenda or hates our club. From following him on twitter and listening to him on the radio I get the impression that he genuinely believes he's one of the few journos that is brave enough to tackle sectarianism and that he's being fair and honest and his honest opinion is that we have a far bigger problem. I don't know if I agree with him on that. We may have a bigger problem, but it's not so much of a bigger problem that the problems of Celtic can be overlooked to the extent that they are by him.

In any case, it's pointless arguing with people on this forum because many of you proudly sing these sectarian songs and are going to hate him anyway even if he was equally against Celtic fans. Many of you give people like Speirs ammo by singing certain songs and making threats against him. You also give him what he probably craves: attention.

Of greater significance...did YOU actually read what he wrote about our club ?

Did you consider the entailment of what he is actually saying in that article I quoted ?

He is saying that the parading of HM Armed Forces at Ibrox is little more than a sham by Rangers...that they are little more than a pawn in our "cultural tit for tat" with Celtic and we only do it to make them look bad.

Not only is it poisonous lies against our club...it demeans our brave armed forces by suggesting that they are nothing more than collateral in an Old Firm morlaity war.

[keithgersbear 3,225]

Spiers IS the enemy. All he is interested in is harming the club and the people who support the club. He is a fenian scum bag.

[ballingrybear 2]

i just cant stand the man and never will fuck off

[1873Graeme 6]

Of greater significance...did YOU actually read what he wrote about our club ?

Did you consider the entailment of what he is actually saying in that article I quoted ?

He is saying that the parading of HM Armed Forces at Ibrox is little more than a sham by Rangers...that they are little more than a pawn in our "cultural tit for tat" with Celtic and we only do it to make them look bad.

Not only is it poisonous lies against our club...it demeans our brave armed forces by suggesting that they are nothing more than collateral in an Old Firm morlaity war.

Of course I got that and obviously it's disgraceful. I was making a wider point about how by making arguments like that you can almost blame all of Celtic's sectarian problems on Rangers. It's amazing how quickly people are to attack me and misunderstand me just because I defended him a tiny tiny bit. I dislike the man and disagree with most of what he writes about Rangers but just because I don't think the cunt should be assaulted in the street I should get off the fucking forum? You can all get to fuck if you think that. Leave it to Celtic fans to resort to violence and petty vendettas. No place for that here.

[1873Graeme 6]

get this cunt to fuck.

Why don't you get to fuck? You're a fucking moron. It's so hard to have any intelligent discussion on this forum because of cunts like you who insult anyone who might have a slight disagreement. Did you actually fucking read what I wrote?? Are you able to read whole paragraphs by yourself? Jesus fucking Christ.

[Boromir 5]

Fucking just wrote out a huge reply then my internet went down and I lost it.

I'll start again

Did any of you actually read what I said? I wasn't defending everything he writes and says. I profoundly disagree with him on that issue regarding the British army and many others. He's making a shoddy moral equivalence between the bigoted and sectarian behaviour of Celtic fans and our decent and respectable behaviour with regards to the British army. Where the Celtic fans have problems with bigotry (their fans attitude towards the army and British people in general) Spiers is trying to say that we're making the problem worse by offending the bigots. It's a shoddy argument. It's virtually the same argument that people use when they say that we are the cause of terrorism. If we would only be nicer to Muslims then they wouldn't blow us up. If you followed Spiers' logic then we shouldn't wear poppies, ban union jacks etc. because it might offend the Celtic fans who hate all that for bigoted reasons.

It's quite revealing that he makes these kind of arguments. I'm not sure if it shows that he has an agenda or hates our club. From following him on twitter and listening to him on the radio I get the impression that he genuinely believes he's one of the few journos that is brave enough to tackle sectarianism and that he's being fair and honest and his honest opinion is that we have a far bigger problem. I don't know if I agree with him on that. We may have a bigger problem, but it's not so much of a bigger problem that the problems of Celtic can be overlooked to the extent that they are by him.

In any case, it's pointless arguing with people on this forum because many of you proudly sing these sectarian songs and are going to hate him anyway even if he was equally against Celtic fans. Many of you give people like Speirs ammo by singing certain songs and making threats against him. You also give him what he probably craves: attention.

[Boromir 5]

Good post.

Don't agree with some of the things he says but respect his right to say them.

[bombaybadboy08 15,660]

Good post.

Don't agree with some of the things he says but respect his right to say them.

Good you will also respect our right to sing songs then

[1873Graeme 6]

What was the phrase Spiers used about our poppy displays? Aggressive poppy displaying or something? It's when he says stuff like that I get really pissed off and suspicious of his motives.

[D'Artagnan 13,319]

Of course I got that and obviously it's disgraceful. I was making a wider point about how by making arguments like that you can almost blame all of Celtic's sectarian problems on Rangers. It's amazing how quickly people are to attack me and misunderstand me just because I defended him a tiny tiny bit. I dislike the man and disagree with most of what he writes about Rangers but just because I don't think the cunt should be assaulted in the street I should get off the fucking forum? You can all get to fuck if you think that. Leave it to Celtic fans to resort to violence and petty vendettas. No place for that here.

Stop playing little miss victim - people detest Spiers with a vengenance and with good cause - if you offer any kind of defence of him you will get pelters.

Read & Weep

Spiers had started his one-man campaign of anti-Rangers bile long before he joined the Herald. One of my earliest memories was his blatant lie that Rangers fans sang (about German superstar Jurgen) “Klinsmann’s a Klansman” at Ibrox. Complete and utter bollocks. He further claimed that Rangers fans sang songs about the tragic death of former Celtic player Tommy Coyne’s wife. Complete fabrication. Another contention of his was that former Ranger Ian Ferguson had “all the charm of a child molester”. A pleasant analogy I’m sure you’d agree. I would wager that Spiers would not express his strikingly odd views during a face-to-face meeting with our former midfielder.

In July 1996 whilst with Scotland On Sunday he penned a deplorable attack on the late great Jock Wallace the day after he passed away, the inference being that Wallace was a bully and a bigot and responsible for sectarianism in Scottish football. Spiers twisted insinuations flew completely in the face of former Celtic captain Andy Lynch who said this on hearing of Wallace’s passing “He would always take the time (prior to Old Firm encounters) in the nervy pre-match atmosphere, be it at Parkhead or Ibrox, to come and give me a warm handshake or hug and sincere best wishes……smart, kind and sensitive. He will be sadly missed.”

Lisbon Lion Tommy Gemmell echoed Lynch’s sentiments “It doesn't matter what side of the fence you were on, I don't think you will find anyone in Scottish football who had a bad word to say about him. It was always a pleasure to be in his company and talk to him. His crack was different class.'' Almost correct Tommy. You WILL find someone who has a bad word to say about him. Graham Spiers.

Bad-mouthing deceased Rangers heroes has since become a theme for this creature. He has written disrespectful articles on late greats Bill Struth, Jim Baxter and Davie Cooper. Of course as with Wallace none of them were here to defend themselves. Spiers wrote the following on the eve last seasons’ League Cup Final against Motherwell, a game dedicated to Coop’s memory:

“More remarkable, though, amid the media and marketing frenzy surrounding the game, is the way the memory of Cooper's career has become lodged halfway between legend and myth………..One problem with the Davie Cooper legend is that, as with many public personalities who die young and become subject to mythology, it doesn't wholly square with the facts of his career. For a so-called "genius", you would certainly have expected Cooper, who died at 39, to have won more than his 22 international caps.”

To write the above just hours prior to a game played in tribute to Davie where his family would be in attendance was nothing short of despicable.

On Struth: “Bill Struth was either an idol or an idiot depending on your point of view”. There you are Mr. Murray, according to Speirs you may have unveiled a statue of an idiot at half-time during the Moenchengladbach game.

Now on to you and I, the Rangers support. Commenting on the Manchester United v. Rangers match last year he described us as “A stinking bigoted cesspit of sub-humanity”. Let me remind you that there were NO arrests at the match. A Manchester United publication later described the game as having the best atmosphere of the season due to the visiting Bears. Some other lovely descriptions of you and I from Mr. Spiers:

6/11/03

“Rancid chanting…..total embarrassment……putrid stench…..savages….poisonous singing…..desecration…..cavemen…...wholesale yobishness…..vile troglodytes…..stinking, bigoted, religious stuff……backward culture…..almost to a man”.

29/11/04

“David Murray is on the back foot…..at Rangers, by general consent, the sectarianism is worse than it is at Celtic……It was an experience that reminded me again of how widespread and malignant bigotry at Ibrox is……It is folly, not to say a cultural disservice to Scotland, to denounce O'Neill for what he said this week…..Rangers, in particular, have a major problem with bigots”.

“Compare and contrast their shameful behaviour with that of Celtic, who on the road to Seville last season, represented Scottish football immaculately” (I suppose they did, if you don’t include the stabbing in Seville, the riot in Blackburn, the Provo banners, the booing of Porto as they lifted the trophy, planes being diverted to Cardiff etc. etc. etc. But why let the FACTS get in the way of a dig at Rangers eh Graham?)

I think Spiers has made it very clear how he feels about US the supporters’ ladies and gentleman, but what’s his views on our club?

8/10/02

"Like the Rangers orange strip, the song ('Follow, Follow') cannot be listed among the great criminal acts, it merely offends”

25/4/04

“Nor can I recall Rangers being disparaged in 1972 when they won the Cup-Winners' Cup; a tournament which, by definition, was painfully inferior to the European Cup, indeed a prize which many placed third in the list of Europe's club baubles behind the UEFA Cup.”

12/8/04

“Please can I be spared any whining from Rangers over this and other criticisms?” “(Rangers) the most paranoid club in Scottish football”.

Fair to say he’s none to keen on our club either! But what does he say about our biggest rivals I hear you ask? Surely in the interest of neutrality and parity, Celtic are afforded the same malevolence?

23/8/02

“Celtic, though, as a football institution, quite rightly remains a symbol of Catholicism. The Celtic strip, as famed and proudly known around the world as it is, still cannot be divorced from one of its cultural parents, which is the Catholic faith.”

4/3/04

“Even high-brow Herald readers, hauling their noses away from such works as Jacob Bronowski and Alexander Solzhenitsyn, may have noticed the palaver that is being planned by Celtic supporters in time for Sunday's slaughter - erm, I mean match - against Rangers at Parkhead.”

25/3/04

“I repeat my main contention: that Larsson's contribution to Scottish life and culture, via the game of football, has been immense. In a sordid football age, his role-model status has also been impeccable.” (Deliberately breaking Gus MacPherson’s leg aside presumably).

1/4/04

“Following Sunday's win at Ibrox I met one Celtic player, a man I remain a great admirer of, and whispered to him: "I fear for some of the alcoholic carnage of you lot over the next few days, it's been a long wait." He smiled and looked at me with rivulets of anticipation dribbling from his chops.”

6/5/04, 22/1/04, 27/11/03, 4/4/02, 7/3/02,

“In one of my favourite magazines, The Alternative View….. the shockingly good magazine, The Alternative View……It was with great joy that I received my copy the other day of The Alternative View, a genuinely enjoyable football magazine of a Celtic persuasion…..the excellent Alternative View, a new mag set up by my old malapropic mucker himself, Matt McGlone….. After 36 years of unchallenged success, the Celtic View at last has a commercial rival…..If I tell readers that Matt McGlone is the brains behind this venture, you may well share my intrigue….. a Che Guevara figure among the fans who helped ease Fergus McCann into place….. I have seen the first edition of The Alternative View, and, I must say, it looks very good. (This is just some of a number of plugs he gave for his bigoted mate McGlone’s failed Celtic magazine in the pages of the Herald).

20/5/04

“Lennon's symphony is music to my ears - My sporting highlight of the past week must be the moment when I was called upon to break the news to Neil Lennon that James MacMillan, Scotland's most distinguished composer, had written a piece in his honour. It is always a minor joy catching up with Lennon.” (In fact Graham loves “Lenny” so much he excused him his spitting on a Rangers scarf and mouthing “orange bastards” to the Rangers support. A strange stance for an individual who has propelled himself to the forefront of McConnell’s anti-bigotry campaign wouldn’t you agree?)

“Celtic have a moral right to this league” (on the day before the 2003 title deciders).

“35,000 Celtic fans singing The Fields of Athenry made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up” (Seems Spiers likes the “tottie famine, rebelling against the Crown” ditty. Compare and contrast with his viewpoint of Follow Follow above)

WARNING: Please have a basin handy prior to reading the next quote.

22/01/03

“I must admit, if I ever fulfil my ambition of having a very splendid private dinner with O'Neill, it will be the one question I'll certainly get round to asking: ''Why were you so horrible to us over that new contract saga?''

I’m sure you’ll agree it’s plain as the nose on your face who are Spiers favourite team down Glasgow way.

Last season I attended a Rangers v. Aberdeen match at Ibrox. Meeting up with my good friend North East Bear post match, he told me he’d been sitting directly behind Spiers. After 6 minutes the Aberdeen fans broke into their “Nice One Simmy” routine, rejoicing in the injury inflicted on Ian Durrant by Neil Simpson, which effectively ruined the wee man’s career. North East Bear pointed this out to Spiers. He further pointed out bile coming from the Aberdeen section revelling in the death of 66 people in the Ibrox Disaster and the death of Davie Cooper at both half-time and full time. Spiers in his Monday morning match report PRAISED the Aberdeen fans for singing “Nice one JIMMY” claiming they were showing support for their manager Mr. Calderwood! North East Bear wrote to the Herald editor pointing out Speirs perversion. Needless to say he received no reply. For the record, Darrell King of the Evening Times stated on Real Radio that anyone who claimed they couldn’t hear the word “Simmie” (as opposed to Jimmy) was kidding themselves on. So there you have it. Spiers is prepared to tell LIES to antagonise Rangers fans. A fellow sports journalist and Newsquest employee confirmed that to be the case.

Whilst on the subject of wee Durranty, please note that Spiers once claimed in Scotland on Sunday that Simpson wasn’t the only one to raise his boot in the tackle, of course inferring that Durrant was also looking to inflict injury. Revisionism at it’s very best. Commenting years later on the incident, Spiers claimed “Rangers fans carry this around with them in much the same way as Phil Boersma carried Durrant”. Real classy eh?

Back to more recent times and the Alex Rae incident during a Euro fixture last season. Spiers led the case for the prosecution (ably aided and abetted by Radio Clyde it has to be said), finding Rae guilty on all counts.

“For days, almost inconceivably, Rangers had denied that Rae had done anything wrong.”

”The response of Alex McLeish, the Rangers manager, to Rae's kick had bordered on the inane.”

"While just about every neutral regarded the challenge as despicable, McLeish referred to the criticism of Rae as ‘hysterical’ and had the temerity to claim that Rae's challenge on Dadu was "not premeditated".

"Rangers got caught up in gauche attempts to defend the indefensible"

"McLeish insults everyone's intelligence, not least his own, in presenting such a fatuous defence of his player."

"UEFA, like the rest of the country, have laughed at this preposterous interpretation by Rangers."

"Apparently, for those who know how to access these things, the berserk hotlines and websites of the club's supporters have almost depicted the rest of us as making up this outrage." (Notice the "for those who know how to access these things", the inference being that your average Bear is not intelligent enough to use a PC).

"There remains something risible and worryingly paranoid about Rangers believing that neutrals, the media, and UEFA have got together to have it in for the club."

"Rangers are left lacking respect."

Let’s make one thing clear. Dadu got up and walked away. No lasting damage was inflicted. He played for his club regularly for the rest of the season. James Wesolowski, the 17-year-old Leicester player who was brutally assaulted by Bobo Balde during a recent so-called “friendly” will be lucky to recover and play the beautiful game again. I await Mr. Spiers condemnation of the Celtic thug. It should also be noted that Spiers didn’t bother with a vitriolic attack on his beloved Larsson when he deliberately snapped Gus MacPherson’s leg. Perhaps Celtic players shattering opponents limbs is of no consequence to the little creep.

Onto another point. Speirs gave a lecture on sectarianism at Turnbull Hall, Glasgow University, on behalf of the Newman Association on the17th March 2005. Said lecture was conveniently arranged for the same night as an important Rangers league match. I dare say Spiers wouldn’t want to run the risk that any of us “poisonous stinking bigoted cavemen” would turn up and challenge his lies. An East End of Glasgow Roman Catholic schoolteacher stated the IRA song Boys of the Old Brigade was intellectually superior to any Rangers song and was a cultural representation of Celticness. Speirs refused to challenge the bigot. One dreads to think what kind of poison this crackpot is polluting his pupils’ minds with.

[mithrandir713 8]

Lol, that showed you! Wow.

[Govan Front Antz 15]

See you shower of cunts that defend Spiers you are a fucking disgrace.

If you cant see what this cretin and his mentally ill eBay journalist companion are all about then its time to give up.

I don't give a fuck if the odious one is a Prod, he is a taig sympathiser, and should be exposed as such.

Shame on you people.

[1873Graeme 6]

I'm familiar with those quotes. I also follow him on twitter and he comes out with some amount of nonsense. Last month he called us "the most backward fans in Britain." He also makes snide little comments like "oh everyone stand up, they're singing God Save the Queen at Ibrox again," as if that was a crime. I think most of the comments above are disgraceful. With some of them, the person who has compiled it is clearly looking for things to be offended by... by that I mean, I think he's reading too much into certain things like his admiration for Celtic players. He's also spoken of his admiration for Walter Smith and Ally McCoist but that doesn't make him a Rangers fan.

Does anything he has written give you the right to respond with violence though?

[1873Graeme 6]

Lol, that showed you! Wow.

No it didn't.

[bombaybadboy08 15,660]

I'm familiar with those quotes. I also follow him on twitter and he comes out with some amount of nonsense. Last month he called us "the most backward fans in Britain." He also makes snide little comments like "oh everyone stand up, they're singing God Save the Queen at Ibrox again," as if that was a crime. I think most of the comments above are disgraceful. With some of them, the person who has compiled it is clearly looking for things to be offended by... by that I mean, I think he's reading too much into certain things like his admiration for Celtic players. He's also spoken of his admiration for Walter Smith and Ally McCoist but that doesn't make him a Rangers fan.

Does anything he has written give you the right to respond with violence though?

You've latched onto that like a paedophile on an unattended kid in McDonalds.

Not everyone has said he should be assaulted,you however continue to defend a man who does nothing but attack the club you say you support.

You're the first Rangers fan I've seen speak in his favour,you follow him on Twitter as well even though you quote him taking digs at us again?

Why would you want to follow him unless you

A- Agree with what he says

B -Are compiling a list of sly digs by him at Rangers?

You're a strange one.

[thebooler 4,509]

The guys a waste of space.

A kicking would be too good for the cunt.

Better if somebody jist cut all his fingers off and ensured he never typed anither word aboot the Rangers and their fans.

Anybody got Kiefer Sutherland's phone number?

[1873Graeme 6]

You've latched onto that like a paedophile on an unattended kid in McDonalds.

Not everyone has said he should be assaulted,you however continue to defend a man who does nothing but attack the club you say you support.

You're the first Rangers fan I've seen speak in his favour,you follow him on Twitter as well even though you quote him taking digs at us again?

Why would you want to follow him unless you

A- Agree with what he says

B -Are compiling a list of sly digs by him at Rangers?

You're a strange one.

I've latched onto that for several reasons:

1. Violence is wrong, and a wholly disproportionate response. I guess that's just my opinion.

2. It can get this forum into trouble. I thought the police were going to start monitoring websites like this.

3. If something did happen to him, it would make Rangers fans look bad and prove his point.

Also, I'm not continuing to defend him!! I'm continuing to defend MYSELF. If you actually read my responses, I'm being very critical of him. Many Rangers fans agree with him. You only have to listen to radio phone in shows. Some Rangers fans phone in and say they agree with him. For the most part, I don't agree with him. In fact, as well as not agreeing with him, I actively dislike him. You would know that if you read my posts. You clearly haven't.

I follow lots of crazy people on twitter, many of whom I don't agree with including Phil McGillivan, Charlie Sheen and the occasional Celtic fan. There are several reasons for this. Sometimes I find what they say amusing, I also try to draw the attention of other Rangers fans to lies and insults by the likes of Spiers and have discussions with people.

[nemisis 358]

He did support Rangers as a boy. He's also a practising Protestant.

Are you going for somne sort of record in talking shite?

[nemisis 358]

I've latched onto that for several reasons:

1. Violence is wrong, and a wholly disproportionate response. I guess that's just my opinion.

2. It can get this forum into trouble. I thought the police were going to start monitoring websites like this.

3. If something did happen to him, it would make Rangers fans look bad and prove his point.

Also, I'm not continuing to defend him!! I'm continuing to defend MYSELF. If you actually read my responses, I'm being very critical of him. Many Rangers fans agree with him. You only have to listen to radio phone in shows. Some Rangers fans phone in and say they agree with him. For the most part, I don't agree with him. In fact, as well as not agreeing with him, I actively dislike him. You would know that if you read my posts. You clearly haven't.

I follow lots of crazy people on twitter, many of whom I don't agree with including Phil McGillivan, Charlie Sheen and the occasional Celtic fan. There are several reasons for this. Sometimes I find what they say amusing, I also try to draw the attention of other Rangers fans to lies and insults by the likes of Spiers and have discussions with people.

I now believe you ARE Speirs, so why don't you crawl under the rock you came from, you lyning disgusting, terrorist sympathiser.

He should be banned from Ibrox and he should be banned from here.

[1873Graeme 6]

Are you going for somne sort of record in talking shite?

I'm not implying that the fact that he was a Rangers fan, and that he is now a practising Protestant means that his arguments are more valid. I'm just letting you know that it is a fact.

He occasionally talks about his religion on twitter. Sometimes talks about the bible and going to church. I don't know if it's all for show but he seems like a bit of a bible basher.

I also have no way of knowing whether or not he was REALLY a Rangers fan as a child, but he has repeatedly claimed he was and don't have any reason to doubt him. Many journos grow up supporting a particular team and end up sounding like they've never supported them in their life. Hugh Keevins apparently grew up as a Celtic fan yet Celtic fans hate him and think he praises Rangers more than Celtic.

Also, what else have I said that is "shite?"

[GF John 169]

Many Rangers fans agree with him. You only have to listen to radio phone in shows. Some Rangers fans phone in and say they agree with him.

Tims pretending to be Rangers fans trying to give his venomous nonsense some credibility, you mean.

[Coplandbear11 1,087]

Can't stand the fucking twat.

[1873Graeme 6]

I now believe you ARE Speirs, so why don't you crawl under the rock you came from, you lyning disgusting, terrorist sympathiser.

He should be banned from Ibrox and he should be banned from here.

Why?? Honestly why do you believe I am Spiers?

From what I can work out, it's because I can spell and write in sentences and paragraphs, and that my first name is Graeme.... not 'Graham' you might have noticed but Graeme.

Is it also because I think Rangers fans shouldn't attack him in the street? Well, excuse me for being civilised and not wanting to resort to the level of Celtic fans.

I've constantly criticised him and agreed with others on here that much of what he writes is disgraceful. Why can't you see this???! Are you just wilfully ignorant?