Gazbo27 15 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 We all have an opinion on boyd, for me its a step backwards cant believe he will be anywhere near as fit as he was first time round and thats a huge concern, he was never exactly known for his great movement and work rate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
port_bear 86 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I dont see Boyd being signed before Tuesdays deadline, as he is a free agent we can sign him anytime so McCoist will hold out to see if he lands any of his other targets before moving for Boyd.Makes sense really, sort of a safety net, if everything goes pear shaped bewteen now and midnight Tuesday we can offer Boyd a deal on the Wednesday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figo 91 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I dont see Boyd being signed before Tuesdays deadline, as he is a free agent we can sign him anytime so McCoist will hold out to see if he lands any of his other targets before moving for Boyd.Makes sense really, sort of a safety net, if everything goes pear shaped bewteen now and midnight Tuesday we can offer Boyd a deal on the Wednesday.Spot on Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,387 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I dont see Boyd being signed before Tuesdays deadline, as he is a free agent we can sign him anytime so McCoist will hold out to see if he lands any of his other targets before moving for Boyd.Makes sense really, sort of a safety net, if everything goes pear shaped bewteen now and midnight Tuesday we can offer Boyd a deal on the Wednesday.We can’t really rely on Boyd though as who is to say he will accept our deal, our wages have been capped for new signings so we are to believe to around £7-10k a week. Boyd was on more than double that a year ago so since we know he left for the money I can’t see him coming back to play for less than he did before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarcheVinny 1,003 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 We can’t really rely on Boyd though as who is to say he will accept our deal, our wages have been capped for new signings so we are to believe to around £7-10k a week. Boyd was on more than double that a year ago so since we know he left for the money I can’t see him coming back to play for less than he did before.Does he want a career?He is hardly in a position to demand any amount of money. He has tried to play for big bucks in two bigger leagues, he couldn't manage it. We are the best he is going to get, so he will have to accept what we offer and earn more money by scoring goals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCR1 1,517 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I can't see him coming back, don't think ally rates him or I reckon he would have signed him by now Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
novosleftboot 6,288 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I can't see him coming back, don't think ally rates him or I reckon he would have signed him by nowOr Ally does rate him but can't make him an offer until wages have been freed up by players departing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRodgA2k8 542 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Or Ally does rate him but can't make him an offer until wages have been freed up by players departing?The fact Ally hasn't made a point of getting him into Murray Park to keep his fitness up speaks volumes of how he is thought of by the Clubs management.Can't see us going in for him at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Or Ally does rate him but can't make him an offer until wages have been freed up by players departing?Fleck and Weir going have released money. The Swedish guy would not have used all that up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
novosleftboot 6,288 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 The fact Ally hasn't made a point of getting him into Murray Park to keep his fitness up speaks volumes of how he is thought of by the Clubs management.Can't see us going in for him at all.A fair point Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
50ShadesofBlue 667 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Fleck and Weir going have released money. The Swedish guy would not have used all that up.We had to pay compensation though. Wasn't it around £200k? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
novosleftboot 6,288 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Fleck and Weir going have released money. The Swedish guy would not have used all that up.True, but would there have been enough left over to cover all of any potential wage?Also, do we know what per centage of Fleck's wages Blackpool are covering? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 We had to pay compensation though. Wasn't it around £200k?200k is damm all even in the situation we are in. Have you noticed everything is 300k or 350k .apart from Wallace deal, which was throw the manager a bone to keep him happy. Whtyes business backgorund is come in cut costs dramatically and take it from there.All this spin keech re USA Fox link up , we would not produce any sort of substantial profits to interest them.Indian market . gies a break....Aussie market again no decent profits to be had there. Ok we signed 3 USA Internationals , again will not bring on the big bucks.Redevelopment of G51 Ali Russell taking about land we do not own!! and any development as I mentioned in another topic with not be for the benefit of the club.Just sick of all the lets tell them this and not tell them what really matters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 True, but would there have been enough left over to cover all of any potential wage?Also, do we know what per centage of Fleck's wages Blackpool are covering?Well put ti this way, they have just been relegated so get balloon payments to help them and they approached Rangers , so if we did not tell them to pay 100% then something far wrong at Ibrox. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
novosleftboot 6,288 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Well put ti this way, they have just been relegated so get balloon payments to help them and they approached Rangers , so if we did not tell them to pay 100% then something far wrong at Ibrox.Tbf, with our recent financial history nothing would surprise me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 i honestly believe if we asked boyd to retun he'd have the cheek to ask for a minimum of £20k a week.given his current situation he'd be lucky to hit £15k at any club IMO Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeblu 0 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I can see this happening,but i would hope if it does we bring in at least one more striker with a bit of pace about him to make up for boyd. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gers31 246 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I can see him going to cardiff but hey you never know Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I can see this happening,but i would hope if it does we bring in at least one more striker with a bit of pace about him to make up for boyd.won't happen mate, he'd give the donkey work that Miller used to do for Boyd to Aluko and effectively kill his game off. i know Boyd gets goals but it takes a lot away from the team as he needs service and i honestly believe Ally's mindset would be "get the ball, pass it to Boyd" rather than open play like we had on show at the weekend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
novosleftboot 6,288 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I can see this happening,but i would hope if it does we bring in at least one more striker with a bit of pace about him to make up for boyd.With Celik and Aluko looking to get in behind the defence then pace wouldn't be the be all and end for our striker. The ability to be in the right place at the right time and finish the move would be far more important. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
real boydie9 17,815 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I can't see him coming back, don't think ally rates him or I reckon he would have signed him by nowCorrect, he WONT be back Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeblu 0 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 won't happen mate, he'd give the donkey work that Miller used to do for Boyd to Aluko and effectively kill his game off. i know Boyd gets goals but it takes a lot away from the team as he needs service and i honestly believe Ally's mindset would be "get the ball, pass it to Boyd" rather than open play like we had on show at the weekend.I've just got this feeling that Boyd is going to turn up in a press conference soon in a gers top saying "it's great to be back and it was the biggest mistake of my life leaving and i'm sorry.........etc"Or maybe it was a bad dream. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazbo27 15 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Correct, he WONT be backGood! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
port_bear 86 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 won't happen mate, he'd give the donkey work that Miller used to do for Boyd to Aluko and effectively kill his game off. i know Boyd gets goals but it takes a lot away from the team as he needs service and i honestly believe Ally's mindset would be "get the ball, pass it to Boyd" rather than open play like we had on show at the weekend.Name a striker that doesnt require service? Thats just a stupid statement, thats like saying Boyd needs air....... (ALL striker require service)As for Ally's mindset, for the majority of his reign he's had the mindset of lumping high, long balls up to Jelavic and Lafferty I will be surprised if that changes anytime soon, regardless of if Boyd signs or not.The bottom here is that Jelavic is OFF, Naismith is out till next season and fuck knows what state Lafferty is in, he has spent more time on the treatment table recently than he has on the park. This leaves us with one recognised striker and two wingers who can maybe do a job through the middle, which as we can all agree is a pathetic state of affairs.We need Ally to bring in at least 2 strikers before this window closes and if he fails to do so then we can kiss goodbye to 4 in a row. With a different unknown player being linked to us daily and even suggestions of us looking at players like Tubbs its clear we are scraping the bottom of the barrell in our pursuit to replace Jela.So for those reasons I say Boyd should be signed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Name a striker that doesnt require service? Thats just a stupid statement, thats like saying Boyd needs air....... (ALL striker require service)my point is that Boyd provides nothing to the team other than goals, he doesn;'t set up others, he doesn't get back and defend when required, he simply stands waitig for the ball, only to be caught offisde 7 times out of ten. whats ridiculous is your statement insinuating that Boyd is like ALL strikers, decent strikers put in the effort elsewhere on the pitch, they contribute to the team effort and create assists as well as taking the ball from deep positions to create scoring opportunities/get goals.Boyd gets the ball and he's doing one thing, going for goal regardless if he is in the best shooting position or not and the only way he's getting the ball is by being a lazy bastard waiting on the others working their cunt off to get the ball up the park before performing a tap in. The service he requires is a ridiculous amount more than the like of jelavic,Naismith or Lafferty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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