Blue Forever 179 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Channel 4 News understands very well that sportswriters need close relations with the football clubs they report on. But what follows stands out because of the culture peculiar to Rangers FC and the media during the reign of Sir David Murray and Craig Whyte.It also stands out because it concerns a former reporter in that culture, who now runs the Rangers media operation.In response to last week’s media coverage of Rangers’ disputed bills for £400,000 Rangers FC did not answer any of Channel 4 News’ questions directly.Instead the club website – now controlled by Ibrox press boss James Traynor, attacked the media en masse, accusing them of being “at such a damning low”: “…it has become clear Rangers cannot rely on basic honesty, decency or integrity from enough of the country’s media…”It struck many appropriate that Mr Traynor should issue such a rallying cry in defence of Rangers. For he stands as one example of the curious Glasgow concept of “succulent lamb” journalism:SECRET FEAR THAT DRIVES ME TO WIN; 10 IN A ROW (Daily Record – November 19, 1998)Exclusive James TraynorRangers chairman David Murray opens up on the highs and lows of his decade in charge of Rangers and promises that the best is still to come…”So ran Mr Traynor’s now infamously sycophantic article on how Sir David Murray would conquer the world with Rangers, building to those fateful lines:“He was about to take in another mouthful of the most succulent lamb – anyone who knows Murray shouldn’t be surprised to learn he is a full-blooded, unashamed red meat eater – when he put down his knife and fork.It was like a statement of intent and looking directly across the table to make sure I hadn’t yet succumbed to the wine, he said:“Bring on the next 10 years, there’s more to come for Rangers.”There certainly was more to come from Rangers: sold for a quid, put into administration, liquidated and lucky to be playing fourth-tier football.And that “succulent lamb”? Well it’s so engrained as a concept in Glasgow’s media culture that these days it even has its own Wikipedia entry.In the light of this, Channel 4 News can now reveal exactly what “succulent lamb” journalism means, from the hand of the RFC press supremo James Traynor.Let’s go back just a short time to when the current Ibrox director of communications was football writer at The Daily Record and its sister paper the Sunday Mail.Back in July 2011, there were searching questions to be asked of Rangers. Like just who was Craig Whyte? What was his business record and just what was really happening inside Ibrox?But far from it.In fact, at times, so unquestioning of Mr Whyte was Mr Traynor that we know of at least one occasion when he actually sent an article to Craig Whyte for prior editorial approval before it went into the newspaper.July 14th is the day the French celebrate the overthrow of deference. But not in Glasgow where, on that day in 2011, James Traynor submitted an article due for the Sunday Mail, to Craig Whyte, with the following message:14 July 2011 14:49(Hi Craig, as agreed the following is what I think would cover the Sunday Mail piece. You’ll notice I start with the £15m but also that I haven’t quoted you on that amount. There might be one or two minor alterations between now and the deadline but these would only be cosmetic and grammatical once I’ve had a final look.Thanks, JT.)He then submits his Sunday Mail article to Craig Whyte in full, for Mr Whyte’s approval, quoting the Rangers boss on grand plans in the transfer market and writing about the £15m to be spent buying the best.Much of the article in fact is simply a string of quotes from Mr Whyte on his vision for Rangers after just a few weeks in the job.The next day, Craig Whyte replies to Mr Traynor saying he’s satisfied the article can go in the paper, subject to a change:Date: 15 July 2011 10:47Subject: Re: Sunday piece.To: jxxxxxx@xxxxxXHi Jim,Only one thing – I’d rather not be quoted being critical of a particular player, ie. Danns. Other than that it’s fine.Best,CraigJust four minutes later Jim Traynor is emailing Craig Whyte straight back to assure him the offending quote will not appear in the Sunday Mail:From:Date: 15 July 2011 10:51Subject: Sunday piece.To: cxxxxxx@xxxxxxxNo problem Craig. It’s out. Thanks. JT.And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what’s known as the “succulent lamb” in the world of Glasgow journalism.In goes the article to the Sunday Mail, all about Mr Whyte’s £15m transfer treasure chest and all the rest of it.Crucially, the glowing piece came after several months of doubt about Mr Whyte’s financial clout and willingness to invest his own money into the club.The big spending promised in the article, approved by Mr Whyte, never did materialise.One small episode in a greater scheme of things where – across all sections of the mainstream media – too few searching questions were asked about Sir David Murray and then Craig Whyte – successive owners who ultimately brought the club to its knees.But there’s more.Far from probing the probity of Craig Whyte, James Traynor was actually going on to probe him for a job at Rangers.And here, for the first time, is your proof.It comes in a series of text messages exchanged between James Traynor and Craig Whyte just a few months later in January 2012.By now of course, the mounting problems at Rangers would have been more apparent and fans needed to know the full scale. But Mr Traynor had other things on his mind – a job under Craig Whyte. Here’s the text exchange:6 JAN 2012 11.43Hi Craig, haven’t been sacked, haven’t resigned despite all the rumours. However, I’m almost certain I can get out within weeks if I insist. Do you want to talk? JT6 JAN 2012 16.07Hi Jim, I’m back in Glasgow next Friday. Let’s meet up then and discuss. C.6 JAN 2012 16.32Okay, see you then.Of course, there’s nothing wrong in looking for a new job – we all do it all the time. And of course we don’t know the preamble to these texts, but the curio here is merely the context that an experienced journalist should apparently be seeking a job from Mr Whyte, should want to be part of his Rangers operation. Channel 4 News understands they did indeed meet and discuss a job at the club. One month after that text exchange – one year ago this week - Rangers filed legal papers at the Court of Sessions to appoint administrators.Did James Traynor simply not know things were amiss?Craig Whyte was banned by the Scottish football authorities from the game for bringing it into disrepute after Rangers ended up liquidated. They fined him £200,000.So there you have it. What so many fans long suspected is laid bare. James Traynor has since made it to Rangers under the new Charles Green regime on a reported six figure salary.Today Mr Traynor, through channels at Ibrox, issued this statement to Channel 4 News: “These suggestions are malicious and misleading. Anyone who knows anything about events at Rangers knows that James Traynor, in his capacity as a journalist, was instrumental in exposing the activities of the Craig Whyte regime which are currently subject to criminal investigation.”Usual bullshit or something more? 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Blue and True 311 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Journo tries to butter up a potential source for the future both for stories and perhaps potential employment.I wonder what the source of said emails and texts was? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Forever 179 Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 Journo tries to butter up a potential source for the future both for stories and perhaps potential employment.I wonder what the source of said emails and texts was?This. Could it possibly be the editor, Allan Rennie, who allegedly expressed his opinion that Rangers being cleared of wrongdoing in the tax case was a 'fucking government conspiracy'? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cammyfraserrfc 5 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Journo tries to butter up a potential source for the future both for stories and perhaps potential employment.I wonder what the source of said emails and texts was?You cant work it out? Its got to be Whyte. When you consider that Whyte has a history of taping conversations and keeping e-mails etc you have to wonder if he has any other information on other journos and indeed others associated with the club at present. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummiesoot 16,037 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 so rather than admit he was wrong thomson goes on a 14 year old witch hunt. yeah brilliant. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis 1,011 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 By putting channel 4 news understands, does he think this gives him more credibility.Fuzzy haired fuck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Big whoop, half the journos in Scotland were kissing Whytes arse at first i remember quite a few quotes of 'wealth of the radar' and 'self made billionaire' as for trying to get a job well it seems finaly Jim got his wish to work for the greatest club on earth, another nothing piece from the toxic taig. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 A nothing story used to detract from celtics failings last night and their embarrassing excuses today...ignore everything this man says...his sources are rangers haters who devote their lives to trying to dig up dirt on us! Sad little man...the innuendo in this piece is there for all to see and I hope no one gets their knickers in a twist about another one of his attacks...just like last week! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allanger 625 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 So who is feeding thomson the info? Whyte?All in all a clusterfuck of nothing Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat malky 11 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Maybe the E-mail/phones where Hacked time for the police to investigate? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFTONG 60,369 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I wonder about the timing of this pish....and oh my a fair few GUESTS...mmmmm coincidence??? They are a slippery bunch of evolving liars and so like the guerilla group they love to sing about... They enjoy and excell at quick kick run away, He has a martyr fixation, and mibee a flood or plague of locusts will fufill his dream to be taken seriously?? He is a desperate attention seeker with a very unhealthy obsession for SCOTLANDS BIGGEST CLUB. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprotson11 147 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Fuss about nothing.I think it is about time that Traynor dished the dirt on others in the Scottish game Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,831 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 It would be unlikely in the extreme for Jim Traynor to use his DR e-mail address therefore the e-mails must have come from Whyte, assuming they are real. I can't see anything worth bothering about in this. Traynor was in contact with Whyte, big deal. Sports Journalist speaks to football club owner, SHOCK!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 So who is feeding thomson the info? Whyte?All in all a clusterfuck of nothingHas to be whyte. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,289 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 You cant work it out? Its got to be Whyte. When you consider that Whyte has a history of taping conversations and keeping e-mails etc you have to wonder if he has any other information on other journos and indeed others associated with the club at present.Whyte has nothing to gain from doing that, whereas Alan Rennie... The source will be JT's DR mail account. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 What a non-story. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueAvenger 10,382 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 A "revelation" about a journalist and a football club's owners (fuck Whyte) talking about newspaper articles........ big deal. Is that it???Another non story by the discredited bhigot journalist. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
better than all the rest 153 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Those text's from JT make it sound like he was asking whyte for a job how would thomson get hold of text messages. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis 1,011 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Whyte has nothing to gain from doing that, whereas Alan Rennie... The source will be JT's DR mail account.Surely JT would have all his computers wiped before he left. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iang2911 423 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 FFS!! What part of "Don't feed these peoples ego's" don't you get? He is only writing that crap because he knows he will get hits on his blog. He is already discredited always repeating the stuff 4names writes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,289 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Surely JT would have all his computers wiped before he left.Wouldn't matter all emails JT has sent/received would be present on the DR mail server.Those text's from JT make it sound like he was asking whyte for a job how would thomson get hold of text messages.Journalists are being found guilty daily for phone hacking, was a simple as typing in a phone number until recently. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Tried attacking Green and failed. Now he tries attacking JT.I haven't read it all as I'm simply not interested in his thinly veiled rantings against us. This will go on for a while with them trying to find any issues and create doubt around anyone with a connection to our club.Like CG said, I'm not angry at them, I feel sorry for them.Do something with your life Mr Thomson because your obsession with hating Rangers will only turn you into a withered old man arguing out loud with the voices in your head. A dry husk left alone to erode. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hubbard 280 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Traynor exposed the Whyte regime before the lot of themThis is just a pile of shite from Thomson..........Traynor worked for the Record and for the BBC either could be the source...given Cosgrove's rants on the BBC, I wouldn'.t be surprised if they got to Thomson via BBC>>>>>>>Cosgrove>>>>>>>>Thomson Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muirheadbear 1,483 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 This is the naked truth about Thomson. How long did it take him to find all this articles. Anyway, I have no problem with Traynor, he called as it was, in his own opinions. We know he's not a bluenose but more importantly that he was and is impartial.This only confirms the agenda from the hacks that live hundreds of miles away and stir the pot.My message to Thomson and Gobblegiver is simple. Come out of your London and Donegal bunkers and come up here with your 'Mhedia campaign'! Then you might have some credibility! If not your health of course! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Once again, people on here give them the oxygen they feed on.Some people will never, ever learn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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