8watp8 254 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 2011/12Champions League Qualifier - knocked out by MalmoUefa Cup Qualifier - Knocked out by nk MariborLeague Cup - 3rd round defeat to FalkirkScottish Cup - 5th round defeat to Dundee UnitedPositive was amassing the 15 point lead over Celtic by October, as well as the 4-2 and 3-2 victory over the scum.However the the 15 point league was basically thrown away and was overtaken around Christmas time.Players in:WallaceBocaAlukoGoianBartleyOrtizBedoyaMatt MckayMervan CelikThe excuse this season was admin, although we were knocked out of every cup bar the Scottish Cup and lost the league lead before Christmas.2012/13Bearing in mind all the shit that had gone on over the summer and no pre season etc;Ramsdens cup - knocked out by Queens in quarter finalLeague Cup - Humiliated by Inverness in quarter finalScottish cup - Humiliated by Dundee Untied in 5th roundPositives - beating the spl leaders, at the time, Motherwell in league cup, winning league at a big margin(however with some shocking results and performances along the way)Players in:BlackShielsSandazaCribariKyleFaureArgyriouTempletonStellaThe excuse was no pre season, however we were seeing the same performances at the end of the season as we did at the start.2013/14through first round of ramsedens cup against Albion RoversKnocked out of league cup in first round against Forfar AthleticPlayers in:BellLawDalyClarkPeraltaSmithFosterMohsniThe excuse this term of not being able to play our new signings(implying he doesn't think spl standard players are capable of beating amateurs). The excuse about Green is awful, if it was Neil Lennon saying that he would think Rangers' season would be a failure without a cup then a manager should use that as motivation, there are off field mind games all the time in the big leagues it is up to a competent management team to motivate players in the right way no matter who is making comments. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBluenose1972 1,405 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Barca will be soon coming for him! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 His record is fucking awful, he's only survived this long because he's Ally McCoist. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
masonrfc 21 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 This post is spot on! Going back to before the money troubles with some of the results we had in Europe then he's signings overall have not been good enough Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigG 56 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Barca will be soon coming for him!He'd soon have them playing like...us! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Ally 1690 21 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Bad days we should be happy charging through these leagues but it looks like the same old shite with him at the helm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Signings have been AwfulEspecially forwards and Defenders.Poor link up Play., lack of Set pieces, inability to defend and Attack at Corners and no Clue of how to change the pattern of a Game.It has all contributed to the Mess on the Pitch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jintybear 8,536 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 This post is spot on! Going back to before the money troubles with some of the results we had in Europe then he's signings overall have not been good enoughMost folk were pleased with the signings at the time. The players haven't performed Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco 1,472 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 His record is fucking awful, he's only survived this long because he's Ally McCoist.Exactly, but some would have you believe it's a two year emotional reaction Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter huistra 1,740 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Hard to admit this but , here goes , when Walter retired should Ally have maybe left and went and got some valuable experience at another club before coming back a more complete manager ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamFyfe 1,438 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 He has a very poor record in any cup. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Most folk were pleased with the signings at the time. The players haven't performedSo coincidently, 90% of the players dont perform, but its nothing to do with the manager?It couldnt be that the manager is shit at motivating them and getting them to perform. Part of the job description is it not? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchy 1,200 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 He has a very poor record in any cup.Which doesn't bode well for when we get back into European action.Providing he's still at the helm by then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Exactly, but some would have you believe it's a two year emotional reaction Some people want it to work out so badly for Ally they're ignoring the potential long term damage to the club.My priority is Rangers, not trying to turn the greatest ever Ranger into a decent manager.We're not a work experience placement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cos88 283 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 2011/12Champions League Qualifier - knocked out by MalmoUefa Cup Qualifier - Knocked out by nk MariborLeague Cup - 3rd round defeat to FalkirkScottish Cup - 5th round defeat to Dundee UnitedPositive was amassing the 15 point lead over Celtic by October, as well as the 4-2 and 3-0 victory over the scum.However the the 15 point league was basically thrown away and was overtaken around Christmas time.When did we beat them 3-0 under Ally? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jintybear 8,536 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 So coincidently, 90% of the players dont perform, but its nothing to do with the manager?It couldnt be that the manager is shit at motivating them and getting them to perform. Part of the job description is it not?I know! I'm just so gutted that things aren't working for Ally. Just wish he could turn it round. I think they were the wrong signings for the divisions we are playing in. My problem is Ally is my era as a player and I hate the fact that he is failing as a manager Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvager 498 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Ally is a great guy, but a great manager? No.He is paid something like 700,000.00 pounds in the lower divisions?????? Is this not a little over the top?Time to get value for money.Sack the management team and bring in the guy who managed QoS last season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
8watp8 254 Posted August 3, 2013 Author Share Posted August 3, 2013 When did we beat them 3-0 under Ally?shit well spotted, the 3-2 game i was referring too, should of been 3-0 mind apart from that shocking finish!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sket 13,610 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 I know! I'm just so gutted that things aren't working for Ally. Just wish he could turn it round. I think they were the wrong signings for the divisions we are playing in. My problem is Ally is my era as a player and I hate the fact that he is failing as a managerWe all do,the fact remains though that it just isn't working Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferris Bueller 1,569 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Hate being negative about him as he is a club legend but his record doesn't make good reading, even taking in to account all the crap over the last couple of years.My big concern is if the current board will make the call and replace him if/when the time comes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchy 1,200 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Ally is a great guy, but a great manager? No.He is paid something like 700,000.00 pounds in the lower divisions?????? Is this not a little over the top?Time to get value for money.Sack the management team and bring in the guy who managed QoS last season.I'd rather go for Stuart McColl Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamtricky 89 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Ally is a great guy, but a great manager? No.He is paid something like 700,000.00 pounds in the lower divisions?????? Is this not a little over the top?Time to get value for money.Sack the management team and bring in the guy who managed QoS last season. Allan Johnston the manager who did fantastic for QoS but he's just left them to take the helm at Kilmarnock . If he continues in that form , would be a great appointment but cant see it happening as the timings all wrong . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mearns loyal 2,717 Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 If you worked for a shipbuilder and the guy who was recognized as the greatest welder the company had ever seen took over from the managing director when he retired and, over a short period of time, the finished product became so bad that even the local model boat club were beating your company to the contracts, the greatest welder would get his arse oot the door. What may I ask is the difference in regards to our greatest goalscorer? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delamonty 992 Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 @PHAlly have maybe left and went and got some valuable experience at another club before coming back a more complete manager ?Even if Ally did try and gain experience outwith The Rangers, he has shown he can be easily outmanaged by guys in the third and fourth tier of Scottish football that operate on a fraction of what he has. What would he be like managing say Forfar?I've supported him -- but performances such as the one vs Forfar and his outburst vs Green, we can do without. On his last legs here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast 9,230 Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Most folk were pleased with the signings at the time. The players haven't performedA big part of a managers job is to develop the players and get them performing. He has failed to do either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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