maverick1200 2,832 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/academy-news/item/10127-winning-isnt-everythingIT may come as a shock to some, but victories on the football field are no longer the number one priority within the Rangers Academy.While the under-20s have made a decent start to the season, winning two and drawing three of their opening five matches, Head of Academy Craig Mulholland insists that chasing down the Development League title is not one of his or the club’s main aims this year.I'm really liking the information that is being released from the club at the moment. Everything seems to be aligning at the moment and there is a great synergy between the 1st team and young teams.Plus the draw against Dundee Hivs seems all the better as they had 5 first teamers in it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 As long as they realise that winning 'IS' everything once they get to the top team.We all want a winning team that plays good football - but none of us want a team that loses, playing good football - winnng and good football are NOT mutually exclsive tho' but winning trumps style if we have to choose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,998 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Under Warbs we do both.Night and day from the previous pretenders. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobar 13,676 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,615 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 As long as they realise that winning 'IS' everything once they get to the top team.We all want a winning team that plays good football - but none of us want a team that loses, playing good football - winnng and good football are NOT mutually exclsive tho' but winning trumps style if we have to choose.We don't have to choose. We have a proper manager in place now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLaudrup 4,672 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Thats very much the continental approach on youth teams and young teams. Focussing not on winning but instead on technical work etc. The idea is if the players are good enough the emphasis can change later. No point having young players 100% committed flying into tackles to win at all costs when they can be working on technique etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 We don't have to choose. We have a proper manager in place now.I hope your right but as we move on and play teams with equal or better quality - winning trumps style every time - I hope we have both! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat 4,511 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 As long as they realise that winning 'IS' everything once they get to the top team.We all want a winning team that plays good football - but none of us want a team that loses, playing good football - winnng and good football are NOT mutually exclsive tho' but winning trumps style if we have to choose.Good post mate.Hopefully if we teach our young players the skills they need then they can play attractive,silky ,technical football whilst winning at the same time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Ranger 1,554 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I hope your right but as we move on and play teams with equal or better quality - winning trumps style every time - I hope we have both!It's about individual skills development at the youth levels. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,853 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Thats very much the continental approach on youth teams and young teams. Focussing not on winning but instead on technical work etc. The idea is if the players are good enough the emphasis can change later. No point having young players 100% committed flying into tackles to win at all costs when they can be working on technique etc. Glad to see we are finally making moves to catch up with the rest of Europe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,765 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I've always understood this rocket science.Similar to the quantum physics of getting the unders teams to play in the same style as the first team for transition of players moving up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammy cox 664 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I've always understood this rocket science.Similar to the quantum physics of getting the unders teams to play in the same style as the first team for transition of players moving up.Cant understand how this momentus earth shattering idea wasn't adopted in the past but then again! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammy cox 664 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 As long as they realise that winning 'IS' everything once they get to the top team.We all want a winning team that plays good football - but none of us want a team that loses, playing good football - winnng and good football are NOT mutually exclsive tho' but winning trumps style if we have to choose.Ye none of us want a team that loses playing good football but there will be none of us who want a team that loses playing shit negative football either.Why don't we just stick with what we have a team winning playing good football.Cant speak for you but im pretty sure most would rather have what we are getting now on the park than what weve had,im sure you would agree. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 As long as they realise that winning 'IS' everything once they get to the top team.We all want a winning team that plays good football - but none of us want a team that loses, playing good football - winnng and good football are NOT mutually exclsive tho' but winning trumps style if we have to choose.There is a transition in styles of play that will have ups and downs. The fact that our baby bears are playing the same way as our first team is exactly what we want, they would be able to slot into any position after playing there for years without the need for a period of uncertainty.I love this ethos and if we draw or lose a couple for the greater good then so be it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsden bear 2,376 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 The purpose of any youth team is to develop players. If done correctly a small handful of these players will ultimately be good enough to star for the 1st team.MW will do the right thing by us i'm sure. The clue is in the name 'development squad'. The measure of success is how many of these players come thru. Some may be passed on to other clubs and enjoy a career as a pro footballer. Success is not winning an under 20 League then becoming a Joiner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,057 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I remember in the mid 80s the Rangers news gave reports on all the youth games, what was noticeable in those days were the margin of victories ie by 8 to 12 goals at times, players like Spencer and mcswegan were scoring 50-60 goals each!!!!If anything this probably hampered their development due to the lack of competition. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,615 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I hope your right but as we move on and play teams with equal or better quality - winning trumps style every time - I hope we have both!Do you have a more effective style in mind? You always seem to be casting seeds of doubt about our ability to 'play good football' and also win - the two can go together.Surprisingly enough high tempo, pressing and passing football where we retain the bulk of possession and create a load of chances brings success. That's much more likely to be successfully than say, for example, going long from defence (and totally bypassing the midfield) towards slow forwards than can't jump. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misteral 2,932 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Learning quick and incisive football aimed at improving technical ability, together with demonstrating sound character both on and off the park, is a winning formula overall. We will win many many more matches than not with this approach. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onefootwillie 1,518 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 The winning with the youths is when a player makes it permanently in the first team squad. That has to be the main priority the kids will have the will to win ingrained in them over time but it is at that level not the most important thing to win at all costs Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Youth oot! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz52 11,837 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I guess it's all about player progression to make sure they're ready to play for Rangers one day. But it must always be remembered that we are Scotland's biggest club and winning the league each year is a must Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barcodebear 85 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Do you have a more effective style in mind?You always seem to be casting seeds of doubt about our ability to 'play good football' and also win - the two can go together.Surprisingly enough high tempo, pressing and passing football where we retain the bulk of possession and create a load of chances brings success.That's much more likely to be successfully than say, for example, going long from defence (and totally bypassing the midfield) towards slow forwards than can't jump.Bluepeter9 prefers the Ally McCoist hump it up the park style of football. Basically he is saying winning at all costs is to be preferred to Warburton's philosophy. I've popped in a few posts since I joined RM pointing out that McCoist's philosophy didn't include the need to entertain ethos, that Warburton's undoubtedly does. It's astounding that he still obliquely agrees with McCoist's approach to running a football team.Playing good football and entertaining the fans must always be the number one priority at a Club like Rangers and we should hold onto Warburton like grim death, because this is what he strives to do.McCoist was a failure as a coach and manager. A pity that there are some that can't accept that and move on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCPRANGERS1 2,997 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Top clubs and national sides have been adopting this approach for years.Ajax are possibly the biggest to look at for this this approach and it has also given them a conveyor belt of talent.I'm not saying we will reach those heights but the set up in place and the recent coaching affiliation points to a bright future IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammy cox 664 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Top clubs and national sides have been adopting this approach for years.Ajax are possibly the biggest to look at for this this approach and it has also given them a conveyor belt of talent.I'm not saying we will reach those heights but the set up in place and the recent coaching affiliation points to a bright future IMO.Unfortunately it has taken a " non Rangers man " to drag us into the 21st century and actually make a start at catching up with the rest of Europe but it will be done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCPRANGERS1 2,997 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Unfortunately it has taken a " non Rangers man " to drag us into the 21st century and actually make a start at catching up with the rest of Europe but it will be done.Auchenhowie has IMO been grossly under used since its inception. The idea of top class training facilities along with the academy side of things was all in place but never really properly used.Mullholland seems to be an excellent appointment and with the manager we now have in place we have a good chance of building something longer term and sustaining the club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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