pcbear 10,923 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Flatters to deceive, he is neat and tidy but seldom plays the killer pass and gives the ball away too much even when trying simple straightforward passes, I also thought the last Arsenal player we had (Kyle Bartley) was a poor footballer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 People going on about his passing. He'll be used to training/playing with Arsenals first team, clearly a better standard than our squad. Could be the fact that he is reading the game on another level to our players which is why he puts the ball places where he's used to higher quality players being and our guys aren't there.  At least that was always my excuse when I was younger. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMotor 2,208 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 1 minute ago, AlBear85 said: People going on about his passing. He'll be used to training/playing with Arsenals first team, clearly a better standard than our squad. Could be the fact that he is reading the game on another level to our players which is why he puts the ball places where he's used to higher quality players being and our guys aren't there.  At least that was always my excuse when I was younger. Then he's still no use to us. We should sign someone of lesser ability who knows where our poor players are actually standing on the pitch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Just now, TheMotor said: Then he's still no use to us. We should sign someone of lesser ability who knows where our poor players are actually standing on the pitch. Doesn't sound very ambitious. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 He is blatantly not the 30th best young player in the world, otherwise he would probably be a first choice for a team playing in the second tier of this crappy country. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMotor 2,208 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 1 minute ago, AlBear85 said: Doesn't sound very ambitious. It's more likely to win us games than elite players who can't find any of our other players with the ball. Or it could just have been a specious argument in the first place, which only really works when you're trying to tell your mates that they're just not up to your level yet (I've also tried it on but nobody fell for it). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyRice1872 105 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 33 minutes ago, TheMotor said: He's being out-performed on his productivity, in terms of goals and assists, by every other midfielder at the club who is getting any game time. That includes Dean Shiels and Nicky Law, who a number of fans do not rate at all. I don't believe for a second that there aren't at least a hundred young players worldwide who are better than Dean Shiels and Nicky Law. He may have potential (I think he has, others don't) but he is not delivering just now. Does Law really have more assists than Zelalem, I don't think so... To be honest mate, I understand what you mean, but I think that Law had a poor game against Morton and sort of trundled through it, if Zelalem done as poorly as Law against Morton I am sure that people would have pointed it out on the forum, whereas because it was Law it seems to have been left unopened in the mailbox. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geronimoo 1,474 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 3 hours ago, RD.1872 said: The only reason he's on that list is because he's on Arsenals books.  Anyone remember the next Bergkamp - Nacer Barazite?  Better still Freddy Adu, he was going to be the next Pele. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RD.1872 890 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 3 hours ago, yermaw145 said: And the only reason he's on Arsenals books is because he has that potential. Don't get me wrong I think he'll turn into a tidy wee player but 30th best youngster in the world? Nah. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMotor 2,208 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 14 minutes ago, RangersMind said: Does Law really have more assists than Zelalem, I don't think so... To be honest mate, I understand what you mean, but I think that Law had a poor game against Morton and sort of trundled through it, if Zelalem done as poorly as Law against Morton I am sure that people would have pointed it out on the forum, whereas because it was Law it seems to have been left unopened in the mailbox. For the amount of game time they had, up until the end of December, Law was more productive. He delivered a goal or an assist for every 198 minutes he played. Zelalem delivered every 257 minutes played. I haven't got January's numbers. But as we know statistics can't tell you everything. People like players mainly for subjective reasons, like how entertained they are watching them, which is fair enough. I think he has great touch and great potential. I just don't think he is ready to deliver yet and he doesn't get me out of my seat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,765 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 48 minutes ago, legalbeagle said: He is blatantly not the 30th best young player in the world, otherwise he would probably be a first choice for a team playing in the second tier of this crappy country. Bad day when I agree with LB. Today is a bad day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,765 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 So wee Barrie must be 15th or so, no? Just behind the wee rattler Tierney or whatever his name is who has played 5 mins but the bheggars value at about 40 million. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 The list more like the most famous young players, not best. I must admit i forget how young he is at times, good player but just makes silly mistakes Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brazz1972 397 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I think he'll turn out a quality player in years to come. His time at Rangers will do him good in the long run. He could end up being a similar type to Özil. He has the potential. Good vision and technique. He has been sloppy some matches and giving cheap balls away but he's only going to improve.  I can however, see why he splits opinion amongst fans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sket 13,610 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 1 hour ago, TheMotor said: For the amount of game time they had, up until the end of December, Law was more productive. He delivered a goal or an assist for every 198 minutes he played. Zelalem delivered every 257 minutes played. I haven't got January's numbers. But as we know statistics can't tell you everything. People like players mainly for subjective reasons, like how entertained they are watching them, which is fair enough. I think he has great touch and great potential. I just don't think he is ready to deliver yet and he doesn't get me out of my seat. You said in terms of goals and assists that Zelalem was the worst of the midfielders getting game time.  Going by the stats on here,Law has 3 assists and 1 goal. Zelalem has 6 assists and no goals. So Zelalem has contributed to 6 goals and Law has contributed to 4. So going by goals and assists as you said, then Zelalem is not the worst. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,854 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 5 hours ago, RD.1872 said: The only reason he's on that list is because he's on Arsenals books.  Anyone remember the next Bergkamp - Nacer Barazite?  I'm sure we nearly signed him a few years ago. Was he not on trial but we couldn't agree a deal? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeWallaceRFC 3,920 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 One of many players who look good because they don't lose possession, play simple sideways/backwards passes and get the ball away as soon as possible. Never seen a player so scared to shoot in all of my life. Regardless of what anybody says, he's not very good. With the build of a snooker cue he's going anywhere but the top. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, LeeWallaceRFC said: One of many players who look good because they don't lose possession, play simple sideways/backwards passes and get the ball away as soon as possible. Never seen a player so scared to shoot in all of my life. Regardless of what anybody says, he's not very good. With the build of a snooker cue he's going anywhere but the top. Tbh I'd take the opinions of Warburton and Wenger over some guy on the internet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose48 951 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I'm sure he'll be devastated by all the negative opinions on here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_Ibrox_Preacher 2,812 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueshoff 11,870 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 11 hours ago, RangersMind said: I bet the other 29 of those youngsters on the list aren't beefy tanks mate, like some people expect Gedion to be. You don't have to be a tank to be able to shoot or go by someone or be able to tackle for that matter.  He just doesn't do enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boybluesy 3,721 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 14 hours ago, Blueshoff said: There must be a world wide shortage of talent He can pass short balls with the best but can't go by a player, can't shoot and can't tackle. Or header a ball....apart fae that he's no bad...we need wee Andy Murdoch back imho Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 22 minutes ago, Boybluesy said: Or header a ball....apart fae that he's no bad...we need wee Andy Murdoch back imho Not a bad call, but would it really only be for one game, potentially? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WadeWilson 4,670 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 10 hours ago, geronimoo said: Better still Freddy Adu, he was going to be the next Pele. Ah, Fredua... The very dude I was thinking of when I read the OP. Since leaving Benfica - eleven league games in four years - he has played for such giants of world football such as Çaykur Rizespor, Philadelphia Union, Bahia, Jagodina, KuPS Kuopion Palloseura, KuFu-98 and Tampa Bay Rowdies. So, I suppose he has mirrored Pelé in the sense that he has never played in one of the top leagues. Still only 26-years-old... Which would be considered a promising youngster around these parts. http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/66/united-states/2016/01/28/19765022/freddy-adu-takes-full-responsibility-for-disappointing  He must sometimes wonder how it would all have panned out had his mother not won the Green Card Lottery and he had stayed in Ghana. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,610 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 36 minutes ago, Boybluesy said: Or header a ball....apart fae that he's no bad...we need wee Andy Murdoch back imho Murdochs a far better player than him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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