We Will Follow Rangers 12,946 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 An unnecessary wage, would rather they put a directors of footballs potential wage together with the potential managers wage and got a better quality manager who could manage the job himself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRW. 5,631 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 18 minutes ago, The Ibrox Derry said: I wouldn't believe a word that comes out of Robertson's mouth. If you do, then you are a fool. And why is that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smell the hotdog 4,016 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 If we get a DOF will we replace Frank? Surely that role would be part of any potential DOF. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,608 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 35 minutes ago, WATP-FOREVER said: Aye, apart from Koeman & Pochettino, Guardiola, Conte, Simeone. Way to go - right DoF and tight manager and it will work. Southampton, spurs, city, chelsea and atletico madrid, all teams that can hire someone to take the paperwork and non first team duties away from their expensive but highly regarded first team coach who doesnt want outside interference in first team duties, so why the fuck would rangers need one, why not have the work done by people already at the club and simply hire a coach or simply stay with a manager, we arent minted like these teams, they will likely have a mountain of people to work under the DoF that links all aspects of the club from scouting, to physio, youth academy and development and probably finance as well we dont and will never have that type of club infrastructure because we couldnt afford it and in all honesty we dont fucking need it for scottish football Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiebear 14 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Jimbeamjunior said: how can it be the right way to go? firstly thats 2 wages we will be paying, secondly, how many successful managers work under DoF? to me it screams that we are gonna take on a completely underwhelming manager Pep, Conte.... any manager in Germany, Spain or England... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRW. 5,631 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, sassaaaa said: DOF is a another ridiculous waste of money. Really? So if a DOF comes in and helps set up a successful scouting department, improves the youth set up and takes a lot of the workload off the managers shoulders (such as boardroom politics) which allows him to focus more on his team then its a waste of money? Give me strength. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobar 13,676 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 1 minute ago, PRW. said: Really? So if a DOF comes in and helps set up a successful scouting department, improves the youth set up and takes a lot of the workload off the managers shoulders (such as boardroom politics) which allows him to focus more on his team then its a waste of money? Give me strength. Some absolute horrendous reading in this thread man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiebear 14 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Southampton, spurs, city, chelsea and atletico madrid, all teams that can hire someone to take the paperwork and non first team duties away from their expensive but highly regarded first team coach who doesnt want outside interference in first team duties, so why the fuck would rangers need one, why not have the work done by people already at the club and simply hire a coach or simply stay with a manager, we arent minted like these teams, they will likely have a mountain of people to work under the DoF that links all aspects of the club from scouting, to physio, youth academy and development and probably finance as well we dont and will never have that type of club infrastructure because we couldnt afford it and in all honesty we dont fucking need it for scottish football It's so when a head coach or 'manager' vacates a post for any number of reasons the club still has a mandate to carry out and some form of normality (specifically with appointments) can continue. Like any other business.... Elon Musk is pretty awesome at what he does but he has a team of talent acquisition specialists to carry out roles in fields he has no knowledge of... Same applies to football as a multi-billion pound business. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,608 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, jamiebear said: Pep, Conte.... any manager in Germany, Spain or England... see my post above about why we cant and dont need it 2 minutes ago, PRW. said: Really? So if a DOF comes in and helps set up a successful scouting department, improves the youth set up and takes a lot of the workload off the managers shoulders (such as boardroom politics) which allows him to focus more on his team then its a waste of money? Give me strength. why cant stewart robertson set up and arrange these things, warburton has set up a scouting system and a youth set up, granted the scouting was a bust but the youth set up has apparently been transformed dramatically, but now we want to hire someone else to simply hire others into these positions Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRW. 5,631 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, fanaticCR said: Some absolute horrendous reading in this thread man. Mate I'm trying my best no to pull my hair out at the absolute ignorance and attitude. Its no wonder Scottish football is so far behind, and continuing to freefall. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFM 3,809 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Nice to see there is a fair amount of people are still in the footballing dark ages. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChampionsAgain 1,373 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 21 minutes ago, The Ibrox Derry said: Who mentioned anything about bringing back the above? Me. We are moving in the right direction. Who do you want to replace the board + King? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAmo'sThighs 848 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I'm a fan of the DoF - it works if implemented right. Not sure we'll get it right however.... Southampton are a perfect example, Adkins leaves, best players sold and pundits are tipping them for relegation, yet they keep producing players, they're scouting is top notch and they bring in another manager and if anything go from strength to strength. Potch leaves for spurs, Koeman for Everton... and they still produce players, play a great style and the gaffer settles in quickly. That's down to the infrastructure. Are King and the rest capable of implementing that? Highly unlikely imo, but it is a good move long term Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Bob 1,360 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 10 minutes ago, AljayBoy said: Ironically I think Warburton would make a decent DoF, or at least a better DoF than manager. He has the grand plans and long term vision you'd associate with the DoF role, and best of all isn't responsible for the tactics, team selection and subs etc. And he cant pick players to play to his own system. I think he would lack credibility as a DoF much the same as he now lacks credibility as a manager. . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,190 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 He said they're looking for someone who knows the Scottish game and the club, that narrows down the names I would imagine, although he said there's been plenty applications, I also heard McInnes on the news and he didn't exactly say he'd commit to the sheep, just said he'd give them his full attention or some such. He explained the DoF position by saying it would stop the turmoil when a manager and his staff leave as the days of managers staying at a club for long periods seem to be going. That's my take on it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, PRW. said: Really? So if a DOF comes in and helps set up a successful scouting department, improves the youth set up and takes a lot of the workload off the managers shoulders (such as boardroom politics) which allows him to focus more on his team then its a waste of money? Give me strength. How many times have we heard this shite ? Its a ridiculous waste of cash we dont have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiebear 14 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Just now, BigAmo'sThighs said: I'm a fan of the DoF - it works if implemented right. Not sure we'll get it right however.... Southampton are a perfect example, Adkins leaves, best players sold and pundits are tipping them for relegation, yet they keep producing players, they're scouting is top notch and they bring in another manager and if anything go from strength to strength. Potch leaves for spurs, Koeman for Everton... and they still produce players, play a great style and the gaffer settles in quickly. That's down to the infrastructure. Are King and the rest capable of implementing that? Highly unlikely imo, but it is a good move long term Exactly - League 1 to the Premier League on the back of phenomenal recruitment and sports science development... Walcott, Ox, Llana etc... Leicester City won the Prem last season because they have a crazy good sports science team... who are obsessed with every detail. Rangers need everything to the tee to catch and blow Celtic away... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiebear 14 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 1 minute ago, ritchieshearercaldow said: He said they're looking for someone who knows the Scottish game and the club, that narrows down the names I would imagine, although he said there's been plenty applications, I also heard McInnes on the news and he didn't exactly say he'd commit to the sheep, just said he'd give them his full attention or some such. He explained the DoF position by saying it would stop the turmoil when a manager and his staff leave as the days of managers staying at a club for long periods seem to be going. That's my take on it. Henning Berg, De Boer, Averladze... ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,614 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 14 minutes ago, Lloyd72 said: Would rather we got someone experienced in the DoF role. Agree I was just using McLeish as an example tbh as I have no idea who is a good DOF and who isn't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRW. 5,631 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: see my post above about why we cant and dont need it why cant stewart robertson set up and arrange these things, warburton has set up a scouting system and a youth set up, granted the scouting was a bust but the youth set up has apparently been transformed dramatically, but now we want to hire someone else to simply hire others into these positions Its no Stewart Robertsons job to be an expert in player recruitment, scouting, youth systems etc ffs mate. We're wanting to hire someone who can give us the best possible chance at having a fantastic youth set up (not saying Warburton/Muholland didn't, but lets improve it even more), someone who can build us a wide, successful scouting network. Guys like Ross Wilson and Paul Mitchell have been successful at a club with one of the best scouting and youth departments in the world. That is fact. Rangers want to bring them in because thats the route we want to go down. How is this a bad thing? Seriously man Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackrfc95 4,255 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, PRW. said: Mate I'm trying my best no to pull my hair out at the absolute ignorance and attitude. Its no wonder Scottish football is so far behind, and continuing to freefall. It is different to what I know therefore it will not work ever even though numerous other clubs do it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRW. 5,631 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, sassaaaa said: How many times have we heard this shite ? Its a ridiculous waste of cash we dont have. Nah, its not. Its exactly the type of move thats going to take us forward, fact. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lloyd72 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 15 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: Agree I was just using McLeish as an example tbh as I have no idea who is a good DOF and who isn't. Ross Wilson seems like a decent option due to his success at Southampton and John Park coming in as his Head of Recruitment under him would be decent also, just the fact we are taking steps to modernise the way this club works is exciting to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reformation Bear 6,453 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 “We haven’t at this stage spoken to anyone about the manager or Director of Football roles. We are just gathering the facts and we will take our time as they are two key roles." Staggering. Just staggering imo that they haven't even spoken to anyone yet. I'll have to listen to his interview again and read the article in the Rangers website again in case I'm missing something here but right now - at first glance - not even having spoken to anyone yet is, imo, staggering. I'm probably being unkind here its like a fire extinguisher sitting unused in the corner when there is a raging fire just feet away. What is the point in having an MD and Directors who react sol slowly as this to finding an interim manager. Watch this space .......if league points continue to be dropped it won't be Robertson or King who will be front and centre taking responsibility.......it'll be Murty if he's the one left holding the first team while the MD and Directors dither and huff and puff and look at the facts and so on. Talk about a deflection from reality! I'll re-read the stuff and maybe it'll make more sense second time round. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,190 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 1 minute ago, jamiebear said: Henning Berg, De Boer, Averladze... ;) As I see it, these guys played here quite a while ago now, the game has changed here, I don't know what he meant by it whether it's guys that have been involved recently or in the past, how many of these guys actually watch Scottish football ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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