With Heart and Hand 8,951 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 24 minutes ago, K.A.I said: I'm not on a rampage disagreeing with your posts on purpose but I think this cup final thing is an absolute myth. Heard people say it when Warburton was in charge too. We are just so pish at finishing, breaking teams down and injecting tempo in key areas that it makes any semi-organised team look like it's their cup final. They aren't playing out of their skin - all they are is being disciplined - it's us that are so bad. this. how long is it going to be used as an excuse? no one said this in 2011 or before so whats different now apart from we're shite and teams know they have a chance to beat us? its no excuse and has become a cliche Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMax399 3,884 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 They don't play for us so it's pretty irrelevant. Let's not forget how poor they were for us when they did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the brown brogue 1,934 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 27 minutes ago, K.A.I said: I'm not on a rampage disagreeing with your posts on purpose but I think this cup final thing is an absolute myth. Heard people say it when Warburton was in charge too. We are just so pish at finishing, breaking teams down and injecting tempo in key areas that it makes any semi-organised team look like it's their cup final. They aren't playing out of their skin - all they are is being disciplined - it's us that are so bad. I totally agree with you, I dont think Hearts put in a 'cup final' performance today at all. I dont think any of their players raised their game, they didnt really get in our faces like hivs did and they didnt come at us at a hundred miles an hour. What they did have was a very basic Craig Levein 4-6-0 game plan where they set up to frustrate us and allowed us to dominate position outwith the danger areas and in the end did so pretty comfortably. In other words, pretty much the same thing we'll have to do against the filth this season if we're to avoid any more record defeats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue 9,562 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 the Portuguese Ian Cathro?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevotrueblue 382 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Caixinha is the worst thing to come out of the Middle East since ISISÂ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,853 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 fantastic guy but never Rangers manager class bite the bullet before we are fighting for a top 6 place Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onefootwillie 1,519 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Saw his comments after the game and he got it pretty much spot on . The main problem was the lack of pace . The problem is can he address it . I think the squad is way better than last season so we should be getting the results . He has to sort it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,568 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 39 minutes ago, steven33jackie said: Problem is the board won't make a decision until its far to late and second won't even be possible. Another long long long season beckons. Massive error in judgement when appointing this man. Guys nothing more than an after dinner speaker.. It was too late when this board took over. If you can't inject the level of investment needed to match the scum, then there is no point. Being second is being a loser and that is where we remain with this board. We are actually arguing about being second. Accept it, or just keep howling at the moon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reformation Bear 6,453 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Every week that the gap widens between the points we have won and those being won by clubs in the top 3/4 of the league it will obviously become harder for Pedro to achieve what he said he wanted to achieve this season which is a much more competitive Rangers than the side we saw last season.  That, if nothing else, infers at least a 2nd place finish and being a genuine title contender.   The start to the season he's overseen so far is not to his advantage. Far from it.   Every game is a 'must win' game from the start of the season but already and even before the end of August games are becoming 'absolutely must win' and if the current trend continues they will become 'imperative must wins'.  The next game is against a side we could not beat last season and I guess that also adds to the pressure on Pedro.  He claims he is not affected by the pressures.  Good for him if that genuinely is the case.  But if it continues and we find ourselves at the half way point in the season in a broadly similar position in terms of wins and league points and league position as last season then I suppose the Chairman and the Board are going to have some pretty piercing questions for him at his mid term review.  If, over the next few months, he is not able to generate the winning momentum he talks about as being necessary then why, you'd wonder, would King and the Board want to keep him.  The noise from a fair bit of the Support about not living up to promises for the season would be deafening.  More so if OF games go as badly as they did last season. It's already picking up in volume and this is still only August.   At this rate Pedro may quickly prove himself to be totally useless as Manager of Rangers.   In the eyes of some he is on that pathway and in the eyes of others he's already reached that undesirable destination and is in P45 territory. The thing is though, I think the Board will do the same as last season and give him until the half way point in the season to see if he can turn it round. Then King will put some difficult points and questions to him and its either sack him at the end of the season if the outcome is a league position that is not a big improvement on last season or Pedro walks because he realises he's not got the backing of the Chairman and Board.  And hey presto its start again next season.   Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said: It was too late when this board took over. If you can't inject the level of investment needed to match the scum, then there is no point. Being second is being a loser and that is where we remain with this board. We are actually arguing about being second. Accept it, or just keep howling at the moon. Second with this board or third with Pedro (maybe even 4th) Absolute no-brainer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The hustler 398 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 On 19 August 2017 at 7:24 PM, Blue Avenger said: It was too late when this board took over. If you can't inject the level of investment needed to match the scum, then there is no point. Being second is being a loser and that is where we remain with this board. We are actually arguing about being second. Accept it, or just keep howling at the moon. Exactly. we needed funds & when this board took over in 2015 I argued they couldn't provide the level of funding we were going to need to attract the right quality of manager and players. I got called Ashley supporter & everything else.... Firstly we got MW as manager and that bombed. He was a budget appointment. He was little more than a youth coach who'd only managed Brentford for 18 months. Last summer's signings proved he wasn't as well connected as was thought. Now we've got Pedro. Another budget appointment. Supposedly well connected like MW to get us quality signings at affordable prices. Not working out as the likes of Pena & Herrera are showing. And even more worrying is how clueless his team selections & tactics now appear to be. If he has any tactics at all that is. When Pedro does go those who appointed him must go too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,568 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, Reformation Bear said: Every week that the gap widens between the points we have won and those being won by clubs in the top 3/4 of the league it will obviously become harder for Pedro to achieve what he said he wanted to achieve this season which is a much more competitive Rangers than the side we saw last season.  That, if nothing else, infers at least a 2nd place finish and being a genuine title contender.   The start to the season he's overseen so far is not to his advantage. Far from it.   Every game is a 'must win' game from the start of the season but already and even before the end of August games are becoming 'absolutely must win' and if the current trend continues they will become 'imperative must wins'.  The next game is against a side we could not beat last season and I guess that also adds to the pressure on Pedro.  He claims he is not affected by the pressures.  Good for him if that genuinely is the case.  But if it continues and we find ourselves at the half way point in the season in a broadly similar position in terms of wins and league points and league position as last season then I suppose the Chairman and the Board are going to have some pretty piercing questions for him at his mid term review.  If, over the next few months, he is not able to generate the winning momentum he talks about as being necessary then why, you'd wonder, would King and the Board want to keep him.  The noise from a fair bit of the Support about not living up to promises for the season would be deafening.  More so if OF games go as badly as they did last season. It's already picking up in volume and this is still only August.   At this rate Pedro may quickly prove himself to be totally useless as Manager of Rangers.   In the eyes of some he is on that pathway and in the eyes of others he's already reached that undesirable destination and is in P45 territory. The thing is though, I think the Board will do the same as last season and give him until the half way point in the season to see if he can turn it round. Then King will put some difficult points and questions to him and its either sack him at the end of the season if the outcome is a league position that is not a big improvement on last season or Pedro walks because he realises he's not got the backing of the Chairman and Board.  And hey presto its start again next season.   Irrespective of what he and every other manager alludes to, surely you did not expect to take the title this season or any other until we had the prerequsite level of investment to do so and bring in a manager of at least Brenda's calibre, no matter the cunt he is? The scum won the treble at a canter. Not one game lost. They have just secured another 26 mil without spending a penny. The gap is widening not closing. Nothing changes until we adequately invest and bring in a top manager. That old record is stuck on repeat. When will we realise it's worn out and we are Rangers in name only with this board? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moobs 9,162 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Nice guy, shite manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,568 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 16 minutes ago, K.A.I said: Second with this board or third with Pedro (maybe even 4th) Absolute no-brainer. Second or last makes no difference. There is no honour in either. The arguement deflects to second, when the demand should be first and no less, but the king rimmers won't have it. Unless there is change, 10 iar is given for the scum and the rimmers will still be making excuses. We simply cannot afford a manager anywhere near Brenda's calibre and that's a damming indictment in itself, far less the. chasm in squad investment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 66,644 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Would rather Tommy Wright than McInnes. If Allardyce wasn't prepared to do it he'd be my first choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boaby Bear 411 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Sometimes being the assistant manager is what you excell at. For me you should be recognising your own ability and reference yourself accordingly. Pedro is at best a good assistant manager, never in a million years is he good enough to be the organ grinder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The hustler 398 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I thought Caixinha was an odd choice from the outset. With the limited funding this board is able to provide, I thought we'd have gone for someone with extensive knowledge & contacts in the likes of say Scandanavia or Eastern Europe where we could get better calibre players at affordable prices. instead we went for a guy who was stuck in the Middle East probably because none of the top European clubs rated him. Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sausagetrunks 6,102 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 We need forwards and a few decent fullbacks, we have a clueless manager, do you sack him or give him more doe to waste.  Board have big big part to play in this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWBear 1,640 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Fucking honking from top to bottom. Hapless board appointed this fucking riddy manager and don't have a pot to piss in to get him to fuck cunt is a brass neck. Useless bastard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza1212 1,212 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 The scum proved it was false economy to take the cheap option with deila,  acknowledged the mistake then rectified it by getting the best management appointment they could afford. I've never in my entire life advocated we try to emulate what they do but even I have to concede they made a very shrewd call by acting quickly and decisively. I'm afraid the writing is very much on the wall with this guy following some of the most horrendous results in our entire history. Results that someone with tactical nouse would have avoided. There can be no denying that! It's happened too many times and the board have to face the fact that to prolong his tenure will inevitably cost this club more in the long run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangecountry 148 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Haven't seen his post match interview because I can't bare the cringe shit that comes out his mouth. Was half expecting him to be wearing a sash or at least a rangers strip for his interview. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerman 89 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 hearts are garbage. on your bike pedro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza27 15,346 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Time to go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Can almost envisage Pedro becoming our very own Rony Delia.  Assembles a decent bunch of players but it takes someone else to come in, tweak a few areas and turn them into a team. Defense - looks solid though Cardoso has a tendency to be either complacent or take his eye off the ball.  Oh and we need a left back.  Midfield was weak with no creativity, now we just have no creativity. Morelos looks like a good wee player but we need more from midfield.  Miller (too old) and Windass (too weak) are passengers.  If Pedro insists in playing Miller then keep him at #9 - he is not a winger or a midfield player but still may have a few goals in him.  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 On 12/08/2017 at 5:30 PM, Smile said: I think today's result even with the sending off was not a big Surprise. What i said the last game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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