Pedro on a loser from day one.

[K.A.I 36,183]

The article should be Pedro was a loser from day one 

[The Godfather 71,999]

Always easy to blame the players when your tactics, training and all around management is bogging.

let's not pretend we haven't had foreign managers do well here either. Maybe it's just the case of a shit manager being so far out his depth he lost the dressing room and fan support?

In any case we are better off without him because his methods clearly were not working and the money he spent in the transfer window showed him to be very careless with any sort of budget which we can ill afford.

[With Heart and Hand 8,949]

Pedro dug his own grave, first the way he handled his players, the way he spoke in the media, his arrogance, and then throwing his players under the bus after accepting the blame 

glad he's gone were well shot of him

[Falcoholic 1,348]

You'll never actually find out what went on until either Kenny or Pedro release their books. My money is on Kenny releasing his first. A bit like what went on with McCoist, I have always thought that he was paid hush money and signed a deal that stated just that. It will all come out in years to come, probably in a book release. Until Kenny releases his book after his departure from Rangers we'll never know. Until then I'll settle down to read Pedro's "The Caravanners Guide To Dog Ownership"

[gazza87 159]

2 minutes ago, Falcoholic said:

You'll never actually find out what went on until either Kenny or Pedro release their books. My money is on Kenny releasing his first. A bit like what went on with McCoist, I have always thought that he was paid hush money and signed a deal that stated just that. It will all come out in years to come, probably in a book release. Until Kenny releases his book after his departure from Rangers we'll never know. Until then I'll settle down to read Pedro's "The Caravanners Guide To Dog Ownership"

You are obsessed with people's books.

It will be a very sad day if either Pedro Caixinha or Kenny Miller release one.

[Falcoholic 1,348]

Just now, gazza87 said:

You are obsessed with people's books.

It will be a very sad day if either Pedro Caixinha or Kenny Miller release one.

Obsessed?

Where do you get that opinion?

[gazza87 159]

Just now, Falcoholic said:

Obsessed?

Where do you get that opinion?

You've mentioned three peoples autobiographies in one post, none of whom have released one yet. (Apart from some pish Ally was involved in).

I don't care enough what happened between them to read about it in 20 years time.  They obviously just clashed and so PC dropped him, mystery solved

[Falcoholic 1,348]

Just now, gazza87 said:

You've mentioned three peoples autobiographies in one post, none of whom have released one yet. (Apart from some pish Ally was involved in).

I don't care enough what happened between them to read about it in 20 years time.  They obviously just clashed and so PC dropped him, mystery solved

Aye ok.

Whatever.

[BlueAvenger 10,270]

59 minutes ago, K.A.I said:

The article should be Pedro was a loser from day one 

Shit... you beat me to it !!

[Shuggy 1,308]

Unfortunately, what is said in the dressing room stays in the dressing room.

 

[graeme_4 34,615]

23 minutes ago, Shuggy said:

Unfortunately, what is said in the dressing room stays in the dressing room.

 

Until Kenny Miller leaks it. 

[eejay the dj 31,964]

On 29/10/2017 at 07:46, backup said:

If this is in any way true from the herald it is a very poor show.

 

PEDRO Caixinha knew his days at Rangers were numbered from early on in his reign.

Keen to establish a new, progressive, European-style culture at the club, the Portuguese coach, who was sacked on Thursday, met with resistance almost from the start, with his decision to truncate the summer holiday period treated with disdain.

It brought echoes of the Paul Le Guen era which ended in similarly ignominious circumstances in 2007, the French coach lasting even less time in the manager’s job than Caixinha. Where a sour relationship with his captain Barry Ferguson was the undoing of Le Guen, a three-time Le Championnat winner as head coach of Lyon, Caixinha’s dealings with Kenny Miller were equally acrimonious.

With his “Scottish” players, led by Miller, refusing to adapt to his training methods or accept the demands the Portuguese coach was making on his players, Caixinha found himself trying to coach a squad that was riven down the middle. When he was forced to confront Miller about his alleged leaking of dressing-room information, it was the final straw. Yet, while Miller might have been banished from the kingdom, there remained a number of subjects who were loyal to the most senior player in the squad, rather than their manager.

Such was the level of mutual distrust between the feuding sides, it is believed those in Caixinha’s camp were openly questioning whether there was an ulterior motive behind the circumstances which led to Ryan Jack’s three red cards in 13 games.

But this was about more than one man’s shortcomings. There was a clear failure in leadership at the top. Stewart Robertson, the managing director, Andrew Dickson, head of football administration, and director Graeme Park, are all believed to have been in favour of Caixinha’s appointment, but there was a split with others, such as Paul Murray and John Gilligan, against it. In the early days of the Caixinha tenure, he was under the impression that he would be in charge of coaching but it soon became clear, as the club struggled to find a director of football to match their budget, that he would be responsible for player recruitment, too.

It is the “institutional failure” that Rangers director Alastair Johnston was referring to in the aftermath of Caixinha’s departure. Tellingly, though, Johnston said he believed the squad was “better than people think and perhaps a new management team will get more out of them”.

“The decision was obviously something that was under consideration for a while, we are not deaf and blind,” Johnston said. “I think the events of the last couple of weeks demonstrated institutional failure, if you will. It was a systemic problem and not just one we thought could be corrected easily with the current personnel.”

That squad was, in large part, assembled by Caixinha. There is no denying he was deserving of a significant portion of blame, too.

His increasingly bizarre public pronouncements – whether talking about the omerta of trips to Vegas or caravans and dogs – owed much to a solid yet flawed grasp of the English language and a failure to gauge properly how the press, his employers, his players and the Rangers supporters construed his comments. With half a squad weighted against him, his position was untenable.

His removal leaves a sizeable tranche of players at Rangers who are now questioning their own futures. Those who were at Murray Park on Friday noted a lighter mood around the place and Miller has been welcomed back into the fold. But not everyone will be happy with that decision, certainly not those who feel Caixinha was failed by players who showed little or no enthusiasm to adapt to his methods.

Caixinha’s exit again raises the hoary argument about the attitudes of Scottish players and their ability to change, to embrace new ideas and cultures. Player power is part and parcel of the modern game and it can take many different forms. There is outright dissent, as displayed at Rangers, which infects all who are exposed to it and there is the insidious variety – where gradual decline comes when players stop short of mutiny but nevertheless stop responding to instruction, as appeared to happen at celtic under Ronny Deila.

The Norwegian, though, still managed to secure two league titles and so celtic persisted with their experiment before ushering in the Brendan Rodgers era. That move now looks inspired and has merely compounded Rangers’ failure to improve on the failed Mark Warburton appointment with a more dubious dabble with the chemistry set in appointing Caixinha.


No doubt Caixinha will, in the days ahead, reflect on the aforementioned institutional failures expressed by Johnston. In that respect, he shares a similarity with his predecessor Warburton who was similarly hung out to dry by his employers.

The Rangers board must hold up a collective hand and say “we chose this man because he was the outstanding candidate as decided by the strictures we placed on the position”.

The next appointment is crucial and carries some caveats; they do not make for great reading. Will Derek McInnes really help Rangers to close the gap on celtic? He recorded par with Aberdeen on a sizeable budget in the league. The best he can hope for is to do the same with Rangers.

And will the board, with all their delusions of a former grandeur, be prepared to accept second best or will the next man find himself battling the kind of unrealistic expectations that have claimed the past two coaches?

First up .I don't believe one thing Scottish media say about our club and anything to do with us 

Secondly .It doesn't matter now ..He is out of there after some of the most shameful results in our history 

McCourt ,Warburton and Pedro have all been a disgrace under the name of Rangers manager .Every one of them 

I hate the first 2 .I probably would have ended up hating Pedro 

Time to move on .It will be Kings last chance to get it right surely 

[ZZed 4,510]

When we get a really good manager I hope we appreciate him after all the trouble we have been through.

[Jimfanciesthedude 24,563]

8 hours ago, simplythebest said:

Managers come in and get better results with the squads they inherit all the time, Pedro just seemed to make it worse

He still got away with it on the basis he needed to buy his own players though and that time allowed him to assess the squad and what was needed, so then we got beat in Europe by plumbers and by October we still couldn't win three games in a row despite some favourable fixtures, including throwing away an excellent chance to get to a cup final. We're closer to them because they've dropped more points than they had this time last season more than anything else, with our form overall we'll still be nowhere near though and we're sitting third not all that far ahead of fourth and fifth either

Pedro was an unmitigated disaster of a manager no point pretending otherwise, I stayed positive for longer than I really believed he deserved because ideally we need some stability but it all goes back to him getting the job in the first place

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3 other diddy european teams that much better Rangers teams and managers fucked it against and still were a success at us., and by the end of october we havent won 3 games in a row yet sit only an old firm defeat away from being joint top (we get that penalty at 0-0 its a totally different outcome)

that mob are still unbeaten yet we are 6 points off after some horrific officiating displays to the point where we might actually have a players red card rescinded for the 2nd time in 3 months, we were kicked off the park in the cup semi final

yes pedro probably had to go due to a number of things behind the scenes (maybe), but better Rangers teams have been further behind the tarriers by this point and we never chased the manager

[The Ibrox Derry 8,905]

Football, especially in Scotland, is a very cliqed business. It's very much the village mentality.

[Juniorsparkie 491]

The fact that the Board appointed a man that they were split over says everything.

[To Be A Ranger 4,032]

10 hours ago, ZZed said:

When we get a really good manager I hope we appreciate him after all the trouble we have been through.

A really good manager will be the one who gets the results we desire on the pitch. I'm sure we will all appreciate anyone who does that.  He can even talk in riddles to the media as long as he gets a long term consistent winning mentality going.