andy500 463 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I think what we have now is options. I'd expect Murty to start with the 4-2-3-1 we used the whole time in Florida. But we now have good players in positions that allow us to play 4-4-2, 3-5-2, 4-4-2 diamond, 4-3-3 - whatever we fancy really. And that will allow Murty to adapt his game plan depending on the opponent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricksen_da_best 2,034 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Fod Wilson Mcrorie Martin Tav - Jack -- Goss - Murphy Windass Morelos - Cummings Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wearethepeople72 1,847 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I think with the players we have it will have to be 4-2-3-1, I can't see us going with 2 upfront even with Morales and Cummings, at least not every game, wouldn't give us good midfield balance IMO. I'd go something like this: Foderingham Tavernier Martin Wilson John McCrorie Goss Candieas Windass Murphy Cummings / Morelos The likes of Jack and Holt can play in the two holding roles as well if necessary, Dorrans could play there too or behind the striker. Think it will be about picking a line-up based on opposition and whatever players are available at the time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,950 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Wearethepeople72 said: I think with the players we have it will have to be 4-2-3-1, I can't see us going with 2 upfront even with Morales and Cummings, at least not every game, wouldn't give us good midfield balance IMO. I'd go something like this: Foderingham Tavernier Martin Wilson John McCrorie Goss Candieas Windass Murphy Cummings / Morelos The likes of Jack and Holt can play in the two holding roles as well if necessary, Dorrans could play there too or behind the striker. Think it will be about picking a line-up based on opposition and whatever players are available at the time. That is my formation also. And also my team with the exception of McCrorie. I still see him as a centre half and Jack preferred in the holding role. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBufalo20 7,915 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Fod Tav Alves Wilson Wallace Dorrans Jack Goss Windass Morelos Murphy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig 176 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Wes Tav Alves Wilson Wallace Jack Dorrans Murphy Windass Morelos Cummings McCrorie is still a teen and needs to be protected, - but for me this is the team - you can put Goss in there but we have no idea what he will be like - two 45 min friendlies doesn't tell you much. Alternative Wes Tav Alves Wilson Wallace Jack Dorrans Goss Murphy Morelos Cummings Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
del gray leuchars 52 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Fully fit Wes Tav Martin Wilson Wallace Mcrorie Dorrans Jack Cummings windass Morelas Just now Wes Tav Martin Wilson John Goss Jack windass Cummings Murphy Morelas Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Soprano 13,964 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 It's impossible to pick one Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 On 15/01/2018 at 22:04, Tenerife Bear said: Candeias is pish. Utter pish. Naismith would comfortably be our very best player. To knock back such a player because you've got a wee chip on your shoulder sums you up. If we play with both Cumming sand Morelos up front Candeias' could end up being a key player for us. He's a very good crosser of the ball. I can't ait to see Murphy over on the other side too we'll be a far more balanced team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza2258 478 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 26 minutes ago, THE_MIGHTY_BEARS said: He's a very good crosser of the ball. I can't disagree with that more. The amount of times he puts the ball along the floor and its easily mopped up by a defender, or he puts it into the hands of the keeper is one of the most frustrating things for me at most of our games when he is playing. I don't think he's a good crosser of the ball at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, VladimirWeiss said: I can't disagree with that more. The amount of times he puts the ball along the floor and its easily mopped up by a defender, or he puts it into the hands of the keeper is one of the most frustrating things for me at most of our games when he is playing. I don't think he's a good crosser of the ball at all. Someone on here said his cross completion rate was the best in the league. By cross completion I assume they mean his cross reaches a teammate. Not everything he puts in is mopped up by defenders, or grabbed by keepers, he has 4 assists in the league already. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluchoo 846 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Fod Tav Martin Wilson John Mcrorie Candias Jack Murphy Windass Morelos Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_1 1,136 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Don't believe Cummings will start off as a starter. Wes Tavernier Martin Wilson John McCrorie Jack Candaeis Windass Murphy Morelos Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza2258 478 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 24 minutes ago, THE_MIGHTY_BEARS said: Someone on here said his cross completion rate was the best in the league. By cross completion I assume they mean his cross reaches a teammate. Not everything he puts in is mopped up by defenders, or grabbed by keepers, he has 4 assists in the league already. Ok, haven't seen the stats but if correct, would be very surprised. I never said everything he puts in is mopped up, but more often than not his crosses, many of which are under not a lot of pressure, are good crosses, but not to our players. I doubt very much he has good stats for putting a ball onto/into one of our players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoopsLaud 4,186 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 On 15/01/2018 at 21:32, Sasa Papac's War Flashbac. said: I’d be going 4-3-3. I know it’s a tainted formation on here after Warburton’s failed attempt with it, but we’ve got better players now. Player that can make it work. A front 3 of Murphy, Morelos, Cummings would be a nightmare for teams, the smellies included. They’re all hard workers, not afraid of dropping deep to get the ball, but more importantly they’ve all got goals in them. I’d go for a midfield 3 of Dorrans, McCrorie, Jack. McCrorie holding, breaking up play and using his excellent distribution to start attacks. Dorrans and Jack either side of him getting up and down the park, feeding the front 3. Defence should be, Wallace, Wilson, Martin, Tav. In games we’re on top and seeing a lot of the ball, the full backs can push high up the park and McCrorie can drop to make it a back 3. This does sound very good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 7 hours ago, VladimirWeiss said: Ok, haven't seen the stats but if correct, would be very surprised. I never said everything he puts in is mopped up, but more often than not his crosses, many of which are under not a lot of pressure, are good crosses, but not to our players. I doubt very much he has good stats for putting a ball onto/into one of our players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy bear 1873 57 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Martin alves Wilson/ Wallace tav Jack Murphy Candeias Windass Morelos Cummings Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza2258 478 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 14 hours ago, THE_MIGHTY_BEARS said: xA measures likelihood does it not? Not buying those stats as an argument, apart from what they are meant to be - you can though Won't deny he gets lots of crosses into box, its the end product that is not of a particularly high standard, so I stand by my opinion, and I am sure he will back me up plenty by the end of the season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,990 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Murty just mentioned that attacking midfield 3 of Murphy, Windass and Cummings behind Morelos. What I said before would happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbscotty12 3,560 Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 Murty also claimed cummings can be used as left winger, but imo he would be completly wasted out on the wing he is a better finisher than morelos. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,662 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Difficult to pick an 11, which is great. Shame Dorrans, McCrorie, Alves, Rossiter, Wallace are all long term injury issues. Full strength I’d go with... Fod Tav Alves Wilson John McCrorie Dorrans Candeias Windass Murphy Morelos I’m expecting to see Martin, Jack and Goss in for those out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,662 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 1 hour ago, esquire8 said: Murty just mentioned that attacking midfield 3 of Murphy, Windass and Cummings behind Morelos. What I said before would happen. Windass wider right maybe? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,990 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 1 hour ago, graeme_4 said: Windass wider right maybe? What I think might possibly happen is Murty might play them in a rotational manner. Sometimes Windass would be 10, then wide right, then wide left with Cummings and Murphy doing the same. Mix it up so we ain't as easy to man mark as we usually are. Can even swap Morelos with Cummings too. Could form quite an exciting front 4. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrblue1 2,042 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I think we now have a squad capable of changing formation game to game as and when required. Also we now have a decent bench. Some games this season, looking at our bench would gee ye the fear. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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