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Steven Gerrard MBE - New Manager


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44 minutes ago, Deanzmeanzheinz said:

If it was deflection then Klopp, Benitez, Hodgson et al would not have been discussing it at their pressers yesterday. It's clear he has been offered the job. Whether he takes it or not is another matter but they are genuinely attempting to get him.

In the same way we made derisory offers for players under Whyte, perhaps?

Maybe we’ve made him an offer he CAN refuse?

They’d be genuine, but still deflections.

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3 minutes ago, K.A.I said:

McCallister would be nice but at the end of the day I'd rather Gerrard brought someone he knew best and had the same mindset as him for what he wants to do.

It always sounds good on paper a Rangers man as number 2 for advice and knowing what the clubs about but it's not fool-proof either (Weir and Nicoll) ... I'm happier with Gerrard bringing his own staff.

Yeah . Surely any manager would surround himself with guys he knows and trusts . It's the best way for any chance of success . 

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17 minutes ago, gmcf said:

Yeah . Surely any manager would surround himself with guys he knows and trusts . It's the best way for any chance of success . 

Don't McAllister and Gerrard know each many from Liverpool, wasn't GM the old head in the Liverpool midfield when SG was breaking through. 

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56 minutes ago, Deanzmeanzheinz said:

If it was deflection then Klopp, Benitez, Hodgson et al would not have been discussing it at their pressers yesterday. It's clear he has been offered the job. Whether he takes it or not is another matter but they are genuinely attempting to get him.

Let's see if it happens.   There are instances aplenty where one party makes overtures to another party about joining the company (Club) and good faith discussions take place to explore what's on offer, the terms, the financial rewards, (and in this case how much transfer money can be made available) and so on.   Whether the parties are already minded to do a deal and the terms one side offers and the other side is prepared to accept are close enough at the outset to make for deal making territory either quite soon or after a few sticking points have been resolved is another matter.  Discussions don't always lead to contracts being signed.   But it can be good publicity for both parties nevertheless.  

That's not an optimistic 'will happen' view of what might be going on in all the rumour and comment in the media and so on.   But for now I remain sceptical of it all and am more inclined to believe based on their poor track record of appointing any manager of any credibility that it could simply be a kite flying exercise where King et al are shooting for the sky as they see it but with a budget firmly anchored to the reality of what can actually be afforded.    As with any enquiry about acquiring something, or the services of a company or individual, the buyer may aspire but whether they can pay the price demanded once that price is known can be a very different thing.  

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4 minutes ago, Deanzmeanzheinz said:

If it was deflection then Klopp, Benitez, Hodgson et al would not have been discussing it at their pressers yesterday. It's clear he has been offered the job. Whether he takes it or not is another matter but they are genuinely attempting to get him.

Correct!

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5 minutes ago, reallyruff said:

Don' Macallister and Gerrard know each other from Liverpool, wasn't GM the old head in the Liverpool midfield when SG was breaking through. 

Yeah but it still doesn't really matter - you can take away McCallister and say he played alongside Ryan Babel or Ngog in the Liverpool team but they aren't someone he know's in a coaching capacity, similar mindset, can trust 110% etc then it doesn't really matter.

I've nothing against Gary McCallister, in fact I like him, but we are obsessed with Rangers men. I'm happy to have Gerrard bring someone he feels is on his wavelength and can trust.

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3 minutes ago, reallyruff said:

Don't McAllister and Gerrard know each many from Liverpool, wasn't GM the old head in the Liverpool midfield when SG was breaking through. 

Yes I think that's the case . It's why I think he will bring McAllister with him . 

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1 hour ago, Courtyard Bear said:

They won’t get away with a kite flying exercise and if they think they can then they are even more clueless than I thought. 

Perhaps they won't get away with it if it emerges that he doesn't take the job.   But on the other hand the spin machine would be put into turbo mode to make the point that they aimed high (at least in their view of what 'high' was) and tried their best to persuade him with a good deal and all that but he preferred other options.     That way it'll be a case of trying to show that they were trying hard to land what they though would be a big fish and can't be faulted for having the high ambition.    A bit like a business having a stretch target and absolutely great if they hit it but the real target that had to be hit - the affordable one - was quite a bit lower.   A vaulting ambition and good for PR but shrug of shoulders if it doesn't happen because reality has brought them to heel, and reality is all that could be done anyway.

So as I see it they'd simply put the full 'we tried very hard' story out and then we settle down to the reality of who they actually get.   

I'd like to trust them more about achieving the appointment of a really good quality manager, but their track record so far leads me to a position of believing it when I see it. 

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7 minutes ago, K.A.I said:

Yeah but it still doesn't really matter - you can take away McCallister and say he played alongside Ryan Babel or Ngog in the Liverpool team but they aren't someone he know's in a coaching capacity, similar mindset, can trust 110% etc then it doesn't really matter.

I've nothing against Gary McCallister, in fact I like him, but we are obsessed with Rangers men. I'm happy to have Gerrard bring someone he feels is on his wavelength and can trust.

Tom Culshaw has been his assistant at Liverpool and I’m pretty sure they’ve been mates since they were both in the Liverpool youth team together

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4 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said:

He's coming down the road.

:crabflute:

As much as I have my doubts , id just love us to announce the capture of SG and his team , as well as Arfield and McGregor , on Sunday night / Monday morning . 

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1 hour ago, gmcf said:

Aw for fucks sake , don't say that RB ! 

As much as I'm not sold on SG , I'd take him over Murty . Not to mention the embarrassment of being knocked back after such a big build up . Surely the board wouldn't be so stupid to play these kind of mind games . . . . . . . 

I think King and his board are quite capable of trying to talk up ambition even if that ambition is so high as to be not a lot more than wistful thinking if it helped to buy them some time if the season continues to fritter disastrously away.   Offering the hope of a better tomorrow even if that better tomorrow might actually be beyond their financial ability to deliver, is one way of trying to sweeten the bitter pill of a very poor season and create some positive thinking and energy for next season (or buy some time).   

After all, which of us have not walked past that posh car showroom with a glitzy sports car in the window and thought 'I wish I could afford that' and then maybe go in to see if there was a way of financing the deal ........only to come away empty-handed with the reality of financial life having bitten hard.    Nothing wrong with aiming high.   Nothing intrinsically wrong with failing in that ambition.    But if you've let the family and kids know that you were aiming high and you let them down then you live with that.   

Lets see if King comes out with the equivalent of the keys to the posh car in his hand. 

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2 hours ago, Malvern said:

All it would take is for Stevie to come out and say he is not taking the job, if he is there on Sunday he probably is.

Sometimes though it needs a bit of thought, a bit of time to assess the risks and opportunities.  Sometimes a few visits / meetings to get more of a feel for what it might be like to work with new bosses in a new company with new folks (Supporters in this case) to please.   Sometimes people just want to get a stronger feel for the lie of the land before they decide on whether to leap or not.   Him being their on Sunday may or may not be an indicator that he is probably taking the job.   

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38 minutes ago, MrMckee said:

Mark guidi on radio Clyde so not sure how reliable that is 

He did seem very confident and as obviously heard something, he's also been banging on all season about us having an investor

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