SeparateEntityMyArse 53,752 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Dave Hedgehog said: You know what I mean. Ok the team at the top then 👍 The Champion club ie winners are the ones at the top at the end of the "season". Yet again definition of "season" is critical. The spfl / Dude / tarrier outlook seems to be that it's legit to manipulate the definition below to justify chopping games, then saying the league is now concluded and the scum as a result are Champions. Season means the period of the year commencing on the date of the first League Match in a Season and ending on the date of the last League Match in the same Season or otherwise as determined by the Board and which excludes the Close Season; Bear in mind rule c13 states distinctly: C13 The Clubs for the time being entitled in terms of these Rules to participate in the Premiership shall, disregarding any abandoned or postponed matches, play in 38 League Matches in any one Season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 22,815 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Just now, The Dude said: Just tell some countries they can't have any football for almost a year? That's mental. You’re confusing “mental” with “leadership” The fact that a group of puppets placed by a single club is considering awarding the title to that very same club (with 20% of the games to go) is the very reason that leadership and guidance from outside their influence is crucial Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 53 minutes ago, TEFTONG said: When was this decided ya fucking fruit bat ? Fuck off ya prick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog 10,673 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Just now, SeparateEntityMyArse said: The Champion club ie winners are the ones at the top at the end of the "season". Yet again definition of "season" is critical. The spfl / Dude / tarrier outlook seems to be that it's legit to manipulate the definition below to justify chopping games, then saying the league is now concluded and the scum as a result are Champions. Season means the period of the year commencing on the date of the first League Match in a Season and ending on the date of the last League Match in the same Season or otherwise as determined by the Board and which excludes the Close Season; Bear in mind rule c13 states distinctly: C13 The Clubs for the time being entitled in terms of these Rules to participate in the Premiership shall, disregarding any abandoned or postponed matches, play in 38 League Matches in any one Season. That is exactly how I’m seeing it too mate. 👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Colin Traive said: You’re confusing “mental” with “leadership” The fact that a group of puppets placed by a single club is considering awarding the title to that very same club (with 20% of the games to go) is the very reason that leadership and guidance from outside their influence is crucial How is telling a country that has just started their season they must deal with it the same way as one's just ending their season 'leadership'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFTONG 60,178 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Redwhiteandblue said: Fuck off ya prick. Your carer let you on the internet again ? Where is the link to your ludicrous claim ? 😜 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurrayWilson 3,407 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: Just tell some countries they can't have any football for almost a year? That's mental. Seems you've made youre mind up that celtic should be awarded the title and nothings gonna shift you on that . Fair enough. Let UEFA make the decision though, at least then people wouldn't be able to question any impartiality. Its too big for our lot bearing in mind the poisonous way football is in this country they will be fucked whatever they decide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotstopper 765 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Please remind me where and when and by whom was it stated, "Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES can the league be extended" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Just now, MurrayWilson said: Seems you've made youre mind up that celtic should be awarded the title and nothings gonna shift you on that . Fair enough. Let UEFA make the decision though, at least then people wouldn't be able to question any impartiality. Its too big for our lot bearing in mind the poisonous way football is in this country they will be fucked whatever they decide. Not even that I think they should but that I think they will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger_onimo 20,488 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 29 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: It shouldnt be. This in one sport, there should be a clear lead from the overarching governing bodies, and it should be cascaded down. Uefa should be providing guidance on how this is played out for all of Europe, as the virus is effecting all of Europe. If the rules are complex and say that leagues where over 70% have been completed, then a certain model is applied, then fair enough. If less than 70% has been completed, then it is voided, then fair enough. What is not acceptable IMO is that one league takes one action, another takes a different view and the sport is decided on completely different criteria. Especially when the beneficiaries of any decision across the leagues are going to be competing with each other in the same competitions next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftpegcoopz11 4,764 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 3 hours ago, The Dude said: They're not finishing it. They don't think there will be any football until August. Add the time to get players fit and play nine rounds of games and there's not enough time to play next season. To say the league will start back in August is guesswork at best. No one knows how bad this may get/last for. So on that basis, let's say the league has to start in September, do they SPFL/SFA call it a 38 game league season, then if time runs out to fit all of these fixtures in... Do they say "Fuck it" let's just give it to the team that's top... If any league in any country isn't over mathematically, then no title should be awarded, no matter WTF rule book says, or what interpretations/at discretion bullshit can be made of it... Simple fact is they cunts should be awarded no title.. If the shoe was on the other foot, you can bet a pound to a penny the outcry from them regarding us winning the title... Sporting integrity and all of that... They have no "integrity" they are cunts! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Quiet Jim 897 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 That dude's a cunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Not sure if this rules has been posted before but just looking through the rulebook:- C14: The Clubs for the time being entitled in terms of these Rules to participate in the Premiership shall, disregarding any abandoned or postponed matches, play in 38 League Matches in any one Season. https://spfl.co.uk/admin/filemanager/files/shares/SPFL Rules and Regulations 22-Jul-19.pdf Page 33. We are not being being given the chance to play in 38 league matches in the season, so the season cannot be considered complete. This rule does not state that the season can be shortened at the discretion of the board. It states that we get to play in 38 league matches in any one season. It does not state 30 games, that would be against the rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,752 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 1 minute ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: Not sure if this rules has been posted before but just looking through the rulebook:- C14: The Clubs for the time being entitled in terms of these Rules to participate in the Premiership shall, disregarding any abandoned or postponed matches, play in 38 League Matches in any one Season. https://spfl.co.uk/admin/filemanager/files/shares/SPFL Rules and Regulations 22-Jul-19.pdf Page 33. We are not being being given the chance to play in 38 league matches in the season, so the season cannot be considered complete. This rule does not state that the season can be shortened at the discretion of the board. It states that we get to play in 38 league matches in any one season. It does not state 30 games, that would be against the rules. Aye it's been mentioned once or twice already mate 😁😁 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Leftpegcoopz11 said: To say the league will start back in August is guesswork at best. No one knows how bad this may get/last for. So on that basis, let's say the league has to start in September, do they SPFL/SFA call it a 38 game league season, then if time runs out to fit all of these fixtures in... Do they say "Fuck it" let's just give it to the team that's top... If any league in any country isn't over mathematically, then no title should be awarded, no matter WTF rule book says, or what interpretations/at discretion bullshit can be made of it... Simple fact is they cunts should be awarded no title.. If the shoe was on the other foot, you can bet a pound to a penny the outcry from them regarding us winning the title... Sporting integrity and all of that... They have no "integrity" they are cunts! If next season doesn't start till September they'll schedule a 38 game season. There won't be a point where they run out of time to play games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: Not sure if this rules has been posted before but just looking through the rulebook:- C14: The Clubs for the time being entitled in terms of these Rules to participate in the Premiership shall, disregarding any abandoned or postponed matches, play in 38 League Matches in any one Season. https://spfl.co.uk/admin/filemanager/files/shares/SPFL Rules and Regulations 22-Jul-19.pdf Page 33. We are not being being given the chance to play in 38 league matches in the season, so the season cannot be considered complete. This rule does not state that the season can be shortened at the discretion of the board. It states that we get to play in 38 league matches in any one season. It does not state 30 games, that would be against the rules. Disregarding postponed matches. We have nine postponed matches which we are unable to schedule. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Just now, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Aye it's been mentioned once or twice already mate 😁😁 @The Dude How can they consider the season to be complete, when it specifically states in the rules that each club in the Premiership must be entitled to play 38 league matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 22,815 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: The Champion club ie winners are the ones at the top at the end of the "season". Yet again definition of "season" is critical. The spfl / Dude / tarrier outlook seems to be that it's legit to manipulate the definition below to justify chopping games, then saying the league is now concluded and the scum as a result are Champions. Season means the period of the year commencing on the date of the first League Match in a Season and ending on the date of the last League Match in the same Season or otherwise as determined by the Board and which excludes the Close Season; Bear in mind rule c13 states distinctly: C13 The Clubs for the time being entitled in terms of these Rules to participate in the Premiership shall, disregarding any abandoned or postponed matches, play in 38 League Matches in any one Season. Spot on. People quoting other sports are muddying the water. In this sport, a contest not completed is abandoned and replayed. It has been this way literally for centuries and campaigners for the filth (including The Dude who is seriously stretching my understanding of the term”Rangers supporter”) are trying to rewrite the history and traditions of the game purely to help a club who, if we’re being honest, should have been closed down when the horrors committed in their name began to see the light. I’ve said my piece on this today and I’ve got other things to do with my time. But my conscience is clear in terms of my pushing for fair play. Some on here (one in particular) really need to have a long, hard look at themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog 10,673 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Scenario A Rangers were top of the league in 1939/40 when the league was abandoned. The league was null and void. We had only played 5 games. Scenario B celtic are top in 2019/20 and the league might be abandoned. It should also be null and void There has been 30 games played. I keep hearing its different based on amount of games played. WHERE IS THE RULE THAT SEPERATES BOTH SCENARIOS.? If no rule exists then it’s null and void with no champion. If they get awarded this year then we get the win from 39/40. 👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Just now, mitre_mouldmaster said: @The Dude How can they consider the season to be complete, when it specifically states in the rules that each club in the Premiership must be entitled to play 38 league matches. 'Disregarding postponed matches' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 18 minutes ago, Dave Hedgehog said: Is there a percentage of games that need to be played to declare a “champion at the end of a season”? No Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Just now, The Dude said: Disregarding postponed matches. We have nine postponed matches which we are unable to schedule. Disregard them, that means you dont count them in the 38 games. If it stated 'including postponed' matches you would have a point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 41 minutes ago, Dave Hedgehog said: Doesn’t matter what they decide down there. Totally irrelevant to up here. Agreed, but the SFA has copied whatever the EFA have done on countless occasions. We all know how this is going to turn out if Liverpool are handed the title. The red neck of trying to call this 9 in a row when they have had next to no competition is a joke. But it's what the history books will say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,752 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 1 minute ago, The Dude said: Disregarding postponed matches. We have nine postponed matches which we are unable to schedule. Disregarding postponed matches teams will play 38 games. Its meaning ignore games postponed or abandoned,ie extra attempts at playing matches, 38 games shall be played. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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