Xbox Series X

[J-Maestro 14,005]

Just now, Iakona said:

It’s Klarna who offer the credit. They are extremely hit n miss when it comes to accepting people.

I got rejected by them about a year ago, however afew weeks after that I got accepted by a bank for a mortgage.. So there’s no really rhyme nor reason to it.

Aye I asked them and they couldn't tell me why either. Read they wanted people to make a small purchase with them and pay it back then they give out more. No sure I want to be dealing with a company like that.

[Jamie0202 13,155]

On 08/02/2022 at 09:12, CR3 said:

Dying Light 2’s performance on Quality or Resolution mode is pretty poor for new gen. Pretty unplayable screen tear looking from left to right on 30 frames if you want to see it in 4k, pure jitters the picture about at any movement even though Motion Blur isn’t an option in settings. To get 60 frames you need to put on performance mode which seems to be the only decent option and knocks it back to 1080p. Disappointing going from 2k120 on other titles or ones that can knock 4k60 out the park to 1080p60 for this being a brand new game, it’s a wouldn’t buy from me.

Personally I think the game is excellent and a "would buy" from me. I'm playing on PS5 and it has the exact same resoulution and frame rate options as the Series X (no screen tearing though). I absolutely agree that performance mode and 60fps is the way to play it and also agree that it would be better at a higher resolution but playing at 1080p isn't even close to being a deal breaker.

If they can do 4x the resolution (4K) with half the frame rate of 30fps then I'm certain that 60fps can be done at a higher resolution than 1080p so hopefully the developers release a patch which does this with dynamic resolution scaling combined with some upscaling (which is absolutely the future BTW). Techand still support the first game, which was fucking excellent, with patches so it isn't against the odds that this will happen. The actual gameplay is brilliant and if anyone loved the first one they will not be disappointed with the 2nd despite being more or less forced to play at 1080p.

[CR3 12,877]

2 hours ago, Jamie0202 said:

Personally I think the game is excellent and a "would buy" from me. I'm playing on PS5 and it has the exact same resoulution and frame rate options as the Series X (no screen tearing though). I absolutely agree that performance mode and 60fps is the way to play it and also agree that it would be better at a higher resolution but playing at 1080p isn't even close to being a deal breaker.

If they can do 4x the resolution (4K) with half the frame rate of 30fps then I'm certain that 60fps can be done at a higher resolution than 1080p so hopefully the developers release a patch which does this with dynamic resolution scaling combined with some upscaling (which is absolutely the future BTW). Techand still support the first game, which was fucking excellent, with patches so it isn't against the odds that this will happen. The actual gameplay is brilliant and if anyone loved the first one they will not be disappointed with the 2nd despite being more or less forced to play at 1080p.

I’m guessing you don’t play 120 frames that’s all. 

[Jamie0202 13,155]

19 minutes ago, CR3 said:

I’m guessing you don’t play 120 frames that’s all. 

144fps on my RTX 2070 mate so no.

[Jamie0202 13,155]

@CR3 The latest patch for Dying Light 2 adds a 60+FPS VRR mode on Xbox Series X which might make a difference. Not sure if this unlocks the frame rate at higher resolutions than 1080p or not. 

[CR3 12,877]

2 hours ago, Jamie0202 said:

@CR3 The latest patch for Dying Light 2 adds a 60+FPS VRR mode on Xbox Series X which might make a difference. Not sure if this unlocks the frame rate at higher resolutions than 1080p or not. 

Cool cheers, honestly was just about unplayable mate. I knew it could be rough on a quality setting on 30 having played a lot of halo recently on 120 but you couldn’t even turn left and right without lag/screen tear and blur,  it was absolutely terrible. You would only be able to enjoy the resolution mode when standing still😅

[maverick1200 2,988]

On 08/02/2022 at 11:54, J-Maestro said:

Did anyone have a problem getting the Xbox All Access thing? I got KB'd for it and was worried my credit must be fucked or something. According to Experian I've got 980 out of 999. So seems like a random decline.

It's all done on criteria, something might just not have matched or as you said random glitch. 

Your credit score is meaningless as its made up, credit score is purely for the consumer to give them an indication of the likely hood of been accepted. I've seen clients with great scores but not be able to get mortgages because of missed payments etc. 

[CR3 12,877]

Looking at PC’s the now, a grand for an RTX 3060 build with an i5 10k or Ryzen 5 or £1200 for 3070. My worry is that I might not see a massive difference after shelling out on one when the Series X can do everything at £450, which is pretty outstanding value to performance,  but I do think if I’m going to it might be in the small window I have some extra disposable this month. I’m needing a new workstation aswell which is forcing the potential move. @Jamie0202 @Iakona

[rabc10000 5,094]

1 hour ago, CR3 said:

Looking at PC’s the now, a grand for an RTX 3060 build with an i5 10k or Ryzen 5 or £1200 for 3070. My worry is that I might not see a massive difference after shelling out on one when the Series X can do everything at £450, which is pretty outstanding value to performance,  but I do think if I’m going to it might be in the small window I have some extra disposable this month. I’m needing a new workstation aswell which is forcing the potential move. @Jamie0202 @Iakona

Any reason why it needs to be an nvidia gpu over amd?? 

[CR3 12,877]

1 minute ago, rabc10000 said:

Any reason why it needs to be an nvidia gpu over amd?? 

Not really, what’s their alternative that competes with the 3060/70 and I’ll compare price👍🏻

[rabc10000 5,094]

5 minutes ago, CR3 said:

Not really, what’s their alternative that competes with the 3060/70 and I’ll compare price👍🏻

Probably the 6900xt or 6800xt. No idea on prices now because I lost interest in a lot of the stuff once the prices went tits up however my oldest boy is still right I to building pcs etc. 

He's currently running the 5800xt iirc and in games like dying light 2 still runs 144hz at 2k resolution on the 2md highest fidelity settings. 

 

Edit just seen the prices of amd gpus and by fuck they have went thru the roof. 

 

Edit the 6700xt is the direct competitor to the rtx3700 comes in between about 750-859 depending on manufacturer

[Jamie0202 13,155]

On 12/02/2022 at 08:48, CR3 said:

Looking at PC’s the now, a grand for an RTX 3060 build with an i5 10k or Ryzen 5 or £1200 for 3070. My worry is that I might not see a massive difference after shelling out on one when the Series X can do everything at £450, which is pretty outstanding value to performance,  but I do think if I’m going to it might be in the small window I have some extra disposable this month. I’m needing a new workstation aswell which is forcing the potential move. @Jamie0202 @Iakona

Right now compared to the Series X my gut feeling is that you won't see a massive difference in 99% of games. Both the PS5 and Series X are ridiculously underpriced for the performance they push out (Series S too for its price point). @Iakona is probably a wee bit more knowledgable than me about current desktop hardware so I would like his opinion on it too.

My advice is that if your main reason for buying a new desktop is to play games which are also available on console then keep your money and don't bother.

[CR3 12,877]

1 hour ago, Jamie0202 said:

Right now compared to the Series X my gut feeling is that you won't see a massive difference in 99% of games. Both the PS5 and Series X are ridiculously underpriced for the performance they push out (Series S too for its price point). @Iakona is probably a wee bit more knowledgable than me about current desktop hardware so I would like his opinion on it too.

My advice is that if your main reason for buying a new desktop is to play games which are also available on console then keep your money and don't bother.

the offer on the table at the moment from the guy is my series x plus £600 cash for a 5600x RTX3060,16GBRAM PC Specialist build. I wanted to switch to PC but didn’t have money, now have the opportunity with a part exchange that’s all, I want more of a workstation for WFH too.

[Iakona 2,318]

3 hours ago, CR3 said:

the offer on the table at the moment from the guy is my series x plus £600 cash for a 5600x RTX3060,16GBRAM PC Specialist build. I wanted to switch to PC but didn’t have money, now have the opportunity with a part exchange that’s all, I want more of a workstation for WFH too.

If you need to a new workstation then it's no brainer really?

Is it going to hugely difference experience for gaming? It's a yes and a no.

It's more powerful than what you'll find in a Series X for sure.. but it's not 2x better like the price is 2x more expensive. Ultimately you are still going to have to make compromises. Like the Series X, it's not exactly a great card for 4k and 60fps gaming with bells and whistles... but it is still possible!!! The beauty of PC is that you have the option and the ability to make sacrifices that allow you to achieve your desired targets.. so from that point of view your experience could be massively different/better. 

For a purely gaming perspective... When it comes down to value for money there's only one winner though.

If the budget allows, take the 3070 over the 60 though.

The market will eventually settle.. so you can always upgrade the GPU down the line. The rest of the system will easily see you through another upgrade.

I'd always take a Nvidia GPU over an AMD one though. 

 

 

 

[FlippinEck 3,844]

9 hours ago, Iakona said:

If you need to a new workstation then it's no brainer really?

Is it going to hugely difference experience for gaming? It's a yes and a no.

It's more powerful than what you'll find in a Series X for sure.. but it's not 2x better like the price is 2x more expensive. Ultimately you are still going to have to make compromises. Like the Series X, it's not exactly a great card for 4k and 60fps gaming with bells and whistles... but it is still possible!!! The beauty of PC is that you have the option and the ability to make sacrifices that allow you to achieve your desired targets.. so from that point of view your experience could be massively different/better. 

For a purely gaming perspective... When it comes down to value for money there's only one winner though.

If the budget allows, take the 3070 over the 60 though.

The market will eventually settle.. so you can always upgrade the GPU down the line. The rest of the system will easily see you through another upgrade.

I'd always take a Nvidia GPU over an AMD one though. 

 

 

 

I got the new Intel i5 12600K and a z690 plus to tide me over until I get a new GPU. Already seeing the difference using my 1060 6gb. Can't wait til I get a new card in! 

[Bigdave30 9,197]

12 hours ago, CR3 said:

the offer on the table at the moment from the guy is my series x plus £600 cash for a 5600x RTX3060,16GBRAM PC Specialist build. I wanted to switch to PC but didn’t have money, now have the opportunity with a part exchange that’s all, I want more of a workstation for WFH too.

I think you would regret getting anything lower spec than a 3060Ti on the GPU front imho.

[CR3 12,877]

3 hours ago, Bigdave30 said:

I think you would regret getting anything lower spec than a 3060Ti on the GPU front imho.

Not sure there’s much difference in the benchmarks between the 3060 & 3060 Ti whereas the 3070 seemed to definitely take a jump up in frames. The other option was that I seen a 2070 Super could be better for gaming but a 3060 is newer tech for ray tracing etc. 

[Bigdave30 9,197]

1 hour ago, CR3 said:

Not sure there’s much difference in the benchmarks between the 3060 & 3060 Ti whereas the 3070 seemed to definitely take a jump up in frames. The other option was that I seen a 2070 Super could be better for gaming but a 3060 is newer tech for ray tracing etc. 

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-3060-Ti-vs-Nvidia-RTX-3060/4090vs4105

 

the ones I’ve looked at are not insignificant. I’d avoid the 2000 series as they seem quite poor for their price point on a frames to pounds ratio.

Im still rocking a 1070ti FE so it’s a bit like a tramp coming into your house and slagging your couch.

Crypto mining, scalpers and covid have fucked the GPU market big time.

[rabc10000 5,094]

17 hours ago, Iakona said:

If you need to a new workstation then it's no brainer really?

Is it going to hugely difference experience for gaming? It's a yes and a no.

It's more powerful than what you'll find in a Series X for sure.. but it's not 2x better like the price is 2x more expensive. Ultimately you are still going to have to make compromises. Like the Series X, it's not exactly a great card for 4k and 60fps gaming with bells and whistles... but it is still possible!!! The beauty of PC is that you have the option and the ability to make sacrifices that allow you to achieve your desired targets.. so from that point of view your experience could be massively different/better. 

For a purely gaming perspective... When it comes down to value for money there's only one winner though.

If the budget allows, take the 3070 over the 60 though.

The market will eventually settle.. so you can always upgrade the GPU down the line. The rest of the system will easily see you through another upgrade.

I'd always take a Nvidia GPU over an AMD one though. 

 

 

 

The market won't settle imho the current prices for cards is exactly what amd and to a lesser extent nvidia have been wanting for a good few years, coupled with western digital iirc losing 3.5bn of silicon wafers for for hard drives I can only see an increase in those coming soon

[rabc10000 5,094]

20 hours ago, CR3 said:

the offer on the table at the moment from the guy is my series x plus £600 cash for a 5600x RTX3060,16GBRAM PC Specialist build. I wanted to switch to PC but didn’t have money, now have the opportunity with a part exchange that’s all, I want more of a workstation for WFH too.

How much would u realistically get for your series x?? 

Have a look at this build quickly thrown together. 

Just add a case and an ssd and your sorted. 

Given the above build u will need an extra 16gb more or less straight off plus u never mentioned what psu, motherboard or ram u have either which is a deal breaker given the money being mentioned 

Should point out that ocuk do great deal on B grade products. Basically stuff people have bought and returned because they don't want or need it anymore. 

[rabc10000 5,094]

47 minutes ago, CR3 said:

That’s Cyberpunk finally got its Series X|S patch update, fs been waiting a while for this😅

Going  to try the ps5 version tomorrow and see how it looks and plays. Hoping Sony never deleted my save file tho

[Mr Soprano 13,964]

First time playing Forza in years.

How fucking class is this game btw.

[J-Maestro 14,005]

2 hours ago, Mr Soprano said:

First time playing Forza in years.

How fucking class is this game btw.

Just started it the other day, first I've played it's awesome though.

[Jakes Pal 5,959]

My PC was a custom build nearly ten years ago now with an i5 @ 2.8 and  GTX970, and despite its age still runs my favourite Total War games up to and including Warhammer 2, plus great fps titles like the Bioshock & Metro series games at a very satisfactory level of performance.

That being said I would not attempt to run the most modern releases on my rig, which is why I invested in a Series X, and I have to say that I have been impressed by this £450 piece of kit. I have recently played Prey and Halo on the X and the experience was very satisfactory, and now, finally after impatiently waiting for Cyberpunk 2077 to get the X upgrade I can finally start exploring Night City, although just my luck, after all this time it looks as though WW3 is going to break out before I get the chance to play the game.

[Jakes Pal 5,959]

On 15/02/2022 at 22:57, rabc10000 said:

Going  to try the ps5 version tomorrow and see how it looks and plays. Hoping Sony never deleted my save file tho

I have the Series X and played the first couple of hours of Cyberpunk 2077 when it was initially released, however when it became patently clear that the game was in fact not finished or anywhere near ready for release I shelved it and waited ( long time) for the bugs to be squashed and the next gen upgrade. Having played a few hours since said upgrade, there has been  a great improvement, the City is far more vibrant, crowded, full of life (and death), it looks wonderful and there is something that I can only describe as an atmosphere you can sense when exploring.

Hopefully will prove to have been worth the wait.