The Euros

[plumbGER 24,518]

@Tiger Shawadmin have hidden your post to me, hopefully it was vile abuse.

[ForeverAndEver 71,482]

10 minutes ago, MisterC said:

I saw there was chat earlier about Chiellinis challenge on Saka. I for one loved it, such a cynical piece of utter shithousery and he only got a yellow. Superb stuff 

He only got a yellow would insinuate it should’ve been a red

[TamCoopz 19,605]

Just now, ForeverAndEver said:

He only got a yellow would insinuate it should’ve been a red

[MisterC 12,270]

1 minute ago, ForeverAndEver said:

He only got a yellow would insinuate it should’ve been a red

I've seen reds given for similar but there were covering players and Saka was a fair distance from a shooting position so on balance a yellow was about right.

[plumbGER 24,518]

7 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said:

Looks like he deleted it, was something about name names ya shitebag.

Rancid behaviour.

Regards the Italian defenders cynical foul, it was fucking top notch professional fouling and taking one for the team with the booking. Having the experience to do that is a massive contributing factor to being a successful team whether we like to see it or not.

He's a bastard of a defender, a guy you want in the trenches with you though.

[Tiger Shaw 30,470]

29 minutes ago, plumbGER said:

@Tiger Shawadmin have hidden your post to me, hopefully it was vile abuse.

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18 hours ago, They Gnu said:

Breakfast TV was at its worst this morning, every channel full of handwringing cunts, horrified by the behaviour of those England fans and pushing the false narrative that other countries fans are all angels. We are in real danger of having our beautiful game turned into a passionless, sanatised spectacle, devoid of the partisan rivalries that we all love, if these  middle class fannies have their way. 

I really like you, Gnu, but the stories from Sunday inside and outside Wembley, and before, during and after the final have been ******* horrendous. And I say that as a man who grew up with their fans behaviour for decades. The first Euros I remember was 1980, and they were a vicious mob, and would be for the nest 20 years. Sunday was the worst I have seen them since Euro 2000. And I posted the story of them assaulting a Danish family of mum, dad and little girl after the SF. 

We have been told since 2000 that their hooliganism was dead. Aye?

[left winger 14,168]

15 hours ago, They Gnu said:

When did I dismiss legitimate racism?

 

of the 850,000 tweets sent during the tournament only 170 were racist, many of these were not from the uk 

Over 1,000 tweets deleted after one match - not the whole tournament. It doesn’t say they were all for racist abuse, tbf.

As long as we downplay racism and pretend it’s not that big an issue it won’t go away. A bit more honesty is required - probably starting with our PM and his cohorts. I think the lack of a reception for the England team at number 10 says a lot.

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/twitter-abuse-england-racism-euro-2021-b945317.html

 

Twitter deletes 1,000 tweets and condems ‘abhorrent racist abuse’ after England Euros defeat

Tom Rostance1 day ago

Twitter say they deleted more than 1,000 Tweets and condemned “abhorrent racist abuse directed at England players” after the Euros defeat to Italy last night.

The Football Association said it was “appalled” by the abuse aimed at Jadon Sancho, Bukayo Saka and Marcus Rashford and the Metropolitan Police is investigating.

In a statement, the FA said that “social media companies need to step up and take accountability” and on Monday morning Twitter confirmed a number of accounts had been banned.

“The abhorrent racist abuse last night has absolutely no place on Twitter,” a Twitter spokesperson said.

“In the past 24 hours, through a combination of machine learning based automation and human review, we have swiftly removed over 1,000 Tweets and permanently suspended a number of accounts for violating our rules - the vast majority of which we detected ourselves proactively using technology.

“We will continue to take action when we identify any Tweets or accounts that violate our policies.

“We have proactively engaged and continue to collaborate with our partners across the football community to identify ways to tackle this issue collectively and will continue to play our part in curbing this unacceptable behaviour - both online and offline.”

Facebook - which owns Instagram - said it tries to remove harmful content as quickly as possible and encouraged people to use the tools it offers to block abuse.

“No one should have to experience racist abuse anywhere, and we don’t want it on Instagram,” a Facebook company spokesperson said.

Racist abuse of England players condemned by Prime Minister and FA

“We quickly removed comments and accounts directing abuse at England’s footballers last night and we’ll continue to take action against those that break our rules.

“In addition to our work to remove this content, we encourage all players to turn on Hidden Words, a tool which means no one has to see abuse in their comments or DMs.

“No one thing will fix this challenge overnight, but we’re committed to keeping our community safe from abuse.”

 

 

[They Gnu 11,553]

31 minutes ago, left winger said:

Over 1,000 tweets deleted after one match - not the whole tournament. It doesn’t say they were all for racist abuse, tbf.

As long as we downplay racism and pretend it’s not that big an issue it won’t go away. A bit more honesty is required - probably starting with our PM and his cohorts. I think the lack of a reception for the England team at number 10 says a lot.

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/twitter-abuse-england-racism-euro-2021-b945317.html

 

Twitter deletes 1,000 tweets and condems ‘abhorrent racist abuse’ after England Euros defeat

Tom Rostance1 day ago

Twitter say they deleted more than 1,000 Tweets and condemned “abhorrent racist abuse directed at England players” after the Euros defeat to Italy last night.

The Football Association said it was “appalled” by the abuse aimed at Jadon Sancho, Bukayo Saka and Marcus Rashford and the Metropolitan Police is investigating.

In a statement, the FA said that “social media companies need to step up and take accountability” and on Monday morning Twitter confirmed a number of accounts had been banned.

“The abhorrent racist abuse last night has absolutely no place on Twitter,” a Twitter spokesperson said.

“In the past 24 hours, through a combination of machine learning based automation and human review, we have swiftly removed over 1,000 Tweets and permanently suspended a number of accounts for violating our rules - the vast majority of which we detected ourselves proactively using technology.

“We will continue to take action when we identify any Tweets or accounts that violate our policies.

“We have proactively engaged and continue to collaborate with our partners across the football community to identify ways to tackle this issue collectively and will continue to play our part in curbing this unacceptable behaviour - both online and offline.”

Facebook - which owns Instagram - said it tries to remove harmful content as quickly as possible and encouraged people to use the tools it offers to block abuse.

“No one should have to experience racist abuse anywhere, and we don’t want it on Instagram,” a Facebook company spokesperson said.

Racist abuse of England players condemned by Prime Minister and FA

“We quickly removed comments and accounts directing abuse at England’s footballers last night and we’ll continue to take action against those that break our rules.

“In addition to our work to remove this content, we encourage all players to turn on Hidden Words, a tool which means no one has to see abuse in their comments or DMs.

“No one thing will fix this challenge overnight, but we’re committed to keeping our community safe from abuse.”

 

 

Twitter took down just under 2,000 ,out of 850,000, that were potentially abusive of which 167 were high risk abuse. Not condoning that just trying to get a bit of perspective here. I don’t believe this country has a massive issue with racism. 
my initial post on this had nothing to do with racism rather it was about the “new fans” who only seem interested when it’s a big game and my belief is they’re spoiling the game. I believe fans should still create a hostile atmosphere, we’re constantly told we are the twelfth man after all. Some rushed to conflate this with racist behaviour, similar to what you yourself have thrown out in the past. Sadly FWIW I think ending racism is about as practical as ending rape or robbery, there will always be bad people in society, however that does not mean this is racist country, in fact as attitude surveys prove, we’re the most tolerant country in Europe.

 

[They Gnu 11,553]

Just read Sadiq Cunt in the Independent, he describes the abuse as “a torrent “ why do these people want a divided society?

[Misteral 2,932]

2 hours ago, They Gnu said:

I don’t believe this country has a massive issue with racism. 

If you are not black or brown or Asian, how the fuck would you know anything about racism and how prevalent it is?

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14 hours ago, MisterC said:

I've seen reds given for similar but there were covering players and Saka was a fair distance from a shooting position so on balance a yellow was about right.

The problem is that these type of “challenges” are blatant cheating and really should get a red but the counter side is that it would lead to players “attempting to win the ball with a tackle” which could lead to some bad injuries.

 

[They Gnu 11,553]

26 minutes ago, Misteral said:

If you are not black or brown or Asian, how the fuck would you know anything about racism and how prevalent it is?

I live in one of the most racially diverse parts of this country, the guy who taught me my trade was black, I was best man at my mixed race mates wedding, i socialise with a lot of black people, I’ve played football with black teammates. Here’s the thing they are no different from me and they can look after themselves. They don’t need stupid middle class white fuckwits to look after them, they’re not children. 

[Misteral 2,932]

1 hour ago, They Gnu said:

I live in one of the most racially diverse parts of this country, the guy who taught me my trade was black, I was best man at my mixed race mates wedding, i socialise with a lot of black people, I’ve played football with black teammates. Here’s the thing they are no different from me and they can look after themselves. They don’t need stupid middle class white fuckwits to look after them, they’re not children. 

Utter fucking guff. You don't live through it.  You don't feel the need to help your black brothers?  Fine, but don't tell others that they shouldn't raise awareness of something that really is divisive. 

[left winger 14,168]

4 hours ago, They Gnu said:

Twitter took down just under 2,000 ,out of 850,000, that were potentially abusive of which 167 were high risk abuse. Not condoning that just trying to get a bit of perspective here. I don’t believe this country has a massive issue with racism. 
my initial post on this had nothing to do with racism rather it was about the “new fans” who only seem interested when it’s a big game and my belief is they’re spoiling the game. I believe fans should still create a hostile atmosphere, we’re constantly told we are the twelfth man after all. Some rushed to conflate this with racist behaviour, similar to what you yourself have thrown out in the past. Sadly FWIW I think ending racism is about as practical as ending rape or robbery, there will always be bad people in society, however that does not mean this is racist country, in fact as attitude surveys prove, we’re the most tolerant country in Europe.

 

Yeah, I think perspective is important. However, my take on it is that there’s a significant number of people who think it’s acceptable to resort to racist abuse, and not just on social media. And that shouldn’t be downplayed because it is a smaller amount than in other countries, for example. 

I also think that some people ignore or deny their own racism within this country - often using the ‘just because I’m against migration doesn’t mean I’m a racist’ line. While that is potentially true, I reckon there’s plenty using that phrase, or similar, who are racist, yet continue to deny it.

I am all for hostile atmospheres at the football - I’d boo every national anthem (apart from the Welsh one), and I don’t think booing one is racist.

It is interesting that you say we are the most tolerant country in Europe. To tolerate actually means to allow the existence of things,practices, people we disagree with or think are wrong. Are we tolerating people because of their colour, for example? Are they wrong? Do we disagree with them being here? Looking at you, in particular, you certainly aren’t tolerant of those with different views in relation to BLM or migration across the Channel, for example.

[They Gnu 11,553]

1 hour ago, Misteral said:

Utter fucking guff. You don't live through it.  You don't feel the need to help your black brothers?  Fine, but don't tell others that they shouldn't raise awareness of something that really is divisive. 

All the black people I know speak excellent English so we’re actually able to communicate with each other.

[They Gnu 11,553]

59 minutes ago, left winger said:

Yeah, I think perspective is important. However, my take on it is that there’s a significant number of people who think it’s acceptable to resort to racist abuse, and not just on social media. And that shouldn’t be downplayed because it is a smaller amount than in other countries, for example. 

I also think that some people ignore or deny their own racism within this country - often using the ‘just because I’m against migration doesn’t mean I’m a racist’ line. While that is potentially true, I reckon there’s plenty using that phrase, or similar, who are racist, yet continue to deny it.

I am all for hostile atmospheres at the football - I’d boo every national anthem (apart from the Welsh one), and I don’t think booing one is racist.

It is interesting that you say we are the most tolerant country in Europe. To tolerate actually means to allow the existence of things,practices, people we disagree with or think are wrong. Are we tolerating people because of their colour, for example? Are they wrong? Do we disagree with them being here? Looking at you, in particular, you certainly aren’t tolerant of those with different views in relation to BLM or migration across the Channel, for example.

70% of the abusive tweets came from abroad, when Brexit won we were told it was because Russian Bots were flooding social media with socially divisivive tweets. Funnily I’ve not heard anything similar about the racism tweets..

in this instance I used tolerance to mean sympathy or indulgence for people with beliefs different from my own. I have no tolerance for the racist divisive extreme left BLM just as I despise the KKK or BNP. As for illegal economic migrants landing on our shores, I believe everything possible should be done to stop that. 

[Misteral 2,932]

16 minutes ago, They Gnu said:

All the black people I know speak excellent English so we’re actually able to communicate with each other.

  You're getting worse by the minute. 

[Willis 20,919]

England team - we want to promote racial awareness 

some people on Twitter - the players who missed the penalties were black and the white players scored

England team -

[Willis 20,919]

3 hours ago, Misteral said:

If you are not black or brown or Asian, how the fuck would you know anything about racism and how prevalent it is?

So people can't understand racism of they're white? And whites are unable to understand racism and its affects on society? 

 

 

 

 

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[Misteral 2,932]

2 minutes ago, Willis said:

So people can't understand racism of they're white? And whites are unable to understand racism and its affects on society? 

 

Of course not but understanding racism is not the same as experiencing racism. I'm sure you'd agree. 

 

 

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[Willis 20,919]

10 minutes ago, Misteral said:

 

You said cause he's not black or Asian then he can't know anything about racism and how prevalent it is. A ridiculous point of view

[Misteral 2,932]

7 minutes ago, Willis said:

You said cause he's not black or Asian then he can't know anything about racism and how prevalent it is. A ridiculous point of view

Thought it was obvious I was talking about experiencing racism and not about not understanding what it is and the effects it can have in a civilised society. Most people do thankfully. Sorry for your misunderstanding, if that's what it was.