*****The Offical Hibs v Rangers Match Thread*****

[kelvd1873 7,659]

1 hour ago, sibsy72 said:

Manager was weak as fuck yesterday at the press conference needs to be calling the ref out on lundstram red card.

 

The club as a whole are weak as fuck when it comes to things like this mate. When lundstrum was fouled there was hardly a blue shirt in at the ref asking for a red, when lundstrum was sent off there was 5 or so hibs shirts in the refs face. 

[MFJ14 464]

13 hours ago, BlueKnight87 said:

We aren't starting games quickly enough. Low tempo giving these sides time to settle at the back. 

We need to be coming out the traps. Get them under pressure right away. 

This has been going on for far too long. Saw it a number of times last season where Gio makes tweaks at half time and we come out a different team.

Why can’t we come out and take it to the opposition from the start? Why does it take us 45 mins to work out what we should be doing?

Not convinced whatsoever.

 

[Orange and Blue 1,173]

It's like last season dropping  points  cause of shite officiating . Watch this this happen again and again before VAR comes in. Most corrupt league in Europe.

[Swagger 8,963]

23 minutes ago, MFJ14 said:

This has been going on for far too long. Saw it a number of times last season where Gio makes tweaks at half time and we come out a different team.

Why can’t we come out and take it to the opposition from the start? Why does it take us 45 mins to work out what we should be doing?

Not convinced whatsoever.

 

It’s last season all over again. Even without the reds you can guarantee we’d be clinging on to 2-1 in the last 10 min. 
The home games are all fairly comfortable but it’s usually a struggle to get the opener - the football on show though is a tough watch. 
Every away game we play has a high chance of dropped points. Slow predictable football that creates very little.

The Lawrence goal yesterday was superb but that was the only decent bit of play all game.

We are miles away from winning this league. Last year was huge with the Champions League money up for grabs and we blew that. This season is heading the same way - there’s nothing in our performances to suggest anything different 

[SIRB_72 4,153]

I remember about this time of the season two years ago drawing at Hibs with 11 man and going onto win the league unbeaten. The amount of people calling for Gerrard's head that day was something else.

Results like this are going to happen, going down to 9 men is also a freak thing to happen, it happens like once every 3 or 4 years to any club.

There's 102 points still to play for!

 

[Swagger 8,963]

12 hours ago, 6superbarry6 said:

It’s not just todays result though, we scraped it at Livi, were lucky to get away with a 2-0 defeat in Belgium, struggled to break down a shite Killie side and but for their keeper throwing one in the net against PSV we’d have lost, we’ve played the same ponderous turgid shite all season barely creating chances in games and leaking goals left right and centre. 

Absolutely. It’s no overreaction it’s been like this for a while. We look like we will concede at least one in every away game we play. We are weak defensively, slow in midfield and create next to nothing.

Hardly a title winning mix 

 

[sausagetrunks 6,234]

13 minutes ago, Orange and Blue said:

It's like last season dropping  points  cause of shite officiating . Watch this this happen again and again before VAR comes in. Most corrupt league in Europe.

if we had balls and had a go, treated spl teams with contempt and actually go after teams and try and finish them off before we give refs the chance. 

Collum should never ref in the top flight again but Gio needs to sort this passive slow boring predictable football out. we invite teams on and give them confidence. Our players are not getting to express themselves, theyre not playing to their full strengths under this passive style of football. it might work in europe but not in the spl. 

the football getting served up is boring lacklustre garbage. we play backwards more than going forward. us playing the ball along the back is not going to bring teams out who sit in.  for me Collum cost us two points yesterday. Morloes added to that but we should be finishing teams of. getting early leads, leads and putting pressure on teams. Teams grow in confidence with our passive boring style. Gio needs to sort it. its a problem. 

[Swagger 8,963]

12 minutes ago, SIRB_72 said:

I remember about this time of the season two years ago drawing at Hibs with 11 man and going onto win the league unbeaten. The amount of people calling for Gerrard's head that day was something else.

Results like this are going to happen, going down to 9 men is also a freak thing to happen, it happens like once every 3 or 4 years to any club.

There's 102 points still to play for!

 

celtic are in a far stronger place now though and we continue to drop silly points. Last season was the same. 
The fact is the run they are on doesn’t allow us to drop much and we’ve scraped past Livingston and dropped two yesterday. 
With them, Aberdeen and Hearts away to come we’ll drop more over the next few weeks. 

[Swagger 8,963]

7 minutes ago, sausagetrunks said:

if we had balls and had a go, treated spl teams with contempt and actually go after teams and try and finish them off before we give refs the chance. 

Collum should never ref in the top flight again but Gio needs to sort this passive slow boring predictable football out. we invite teams on and give them confidence. Our players are not getting to express themselves, theyre not playing to their full strengths under this passive style of football. it might work in europe but not in the spl. 

the football getting served up is boring lacklustre garbage. we play backwards more than going forward. us playing the ball along the back is not going to bring teams out who sit in.  for me Collum cost us two points yesterday. Morloes added to that but we should be finishing teams of. getting early leads, leads and putting pressure on teams. Teams grow in confidence with our passive boring style. Gio needs to sort it. its a problem. 

Gerrard and GVB two absolutely top class footballers. You’d think they could see what we are all seeing but it’s been like this for a long time - Tillman, Lowry ? Other than that there’s not much creativity coming from anywhere. 
It’s horrific football 

[BillyG91 5,595]

29 minutes ago, Orange and Blue said:

It's like last season dropping  points  cause of shite officiating . Watch this this happen again and again before VAR comes in. Most corrupt league in Europe.

what happens if it's Collum sitting in a room watching the game on a monitor?

Or are we bringing in new officials to operate VAR? And if they're being trained by the SFA then it's just more of the same shit. In fact they'll be inexperienced ... not that any of the "senior" refs we have are competent at their jobs!

[AdzKyle 8,620]

5 minutes ago, BillyG91 said:

what happens if it's Collum sitting in a room watching the game on a monitor?

Or are we bringing in new officials to operate VAR? And if they're being trained by the SFA then it's just more of the same shit. In fact they'll be inexperienced ... not that any of the "senior" refs we have are competent at their jobs!

This is it. VAR will not solve this if it’s the same inept/corrupt people making the decisions. 
Hell, it could even get worse when every challenge we make is always analysed a million times by commentators, never mind the refs. 

[sassaaaa 11,406]

9 minutes ago, Swagger said:

Gerrard and GVB two absolutely top class footballers. You’d think they could see what we are all seeing but it’s been like this for a long time - Tillman, Lowry ? Other than that there’s not much creativity coming from anywhere. 
It’s horrific football 

Lowry is never going to get anywhere near the first team as long as GVB is there.

[sassaaaa 11,406]

9 minutes ago, BillyG91 said:

what happens if it's Collum sitting in a room watching the game on a monitor?

Or are we bringing in new officials to operate VAR? And if they're being trained by the SFA then it's just more of the same shit. In fact they'll be inexperienced ... not that any of the "senior" refs we have are competent at their jobs!

Collum and Clancy will be even worse doing VAR , no crowd noise or backlash both of them will destroy us.

[sausagetrunks 6,234]

we should not be depending on VAR or poor refs etc. we need to get our own house in order.  we have the rest of the transfer window to sort this mess out.  Between players being poor and Gios tactics etc.  Honestly, 4 games in and its a worry.  

[MacBoyd 6,074]

11 minutes ago, sassaaaa said:

Lowry is never going to get anywhere near the first team as long as GVB is there.

Why? He already has played games 

[sassaaaa 11,406]

Just now, MacBoyd said:

Why? He already has played games 

His injury kept him out for a while but plenty times he was available and never got the chance. Hes had a couple of bit parts , he should have played many more games than he has done, there has been plenty games where he would have made a difference but was ignored time after time. This boy is better than the new players we brought in.

[SIRB_72 4,153]

31 minutes ago, Swagger said:

celtic are in a far stronger place now though and we continue to drop silly points. Last season was the same. 
The fact is the run they are on doesn’t allow us to drop much and we’ve scraped past Livingston and dropped two yesterday. 
With them, Aberdeen and Hearts away to come we’ll drop more over the next few weeks. 

We never scraped past Livi, we could have beat them 4/5-1 at the end of the day. Tillman should have scored a couple and Colak's "offside" goal. We dominated St Johnstone and Kilmarnock as well.

Yesterday was tight as it always is at Hibs and despite not playing well, neither did they for that matter, we were 2-1 up. As I said, yesterday was a freak in relation to having two sending offs. Do we really drop points in that game with 11 or even 10 men?

We grow into bigger games which I'd class away to Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen as which in itself is a wee bit of a problem with Gio but not a hugely destructive one. That got cut off yesterday with Lundstram's unfair sending off and then the second red.

If we're thinking that celtic will never drop points we're in for a pleasant surprise as well

[sausagetrunks 6,234]

14 minutes ago, SIRB_72 said:

We never scraped past Livi, we could have beat them 4/5-1 at the end of the day. Tillman should have scored a couple and Colak's "offside" goal. We dominated St Johnstone and Kilmarnock as well.

Yesterday was tight as it always is at Hibs and despite not playing well, neither did they for that matter, we were 2-1 up. As I said, yesterday was a freak in relation to having two sending offs. Do we really drop points in that game with 11 or even 10 men?

We grow into bigger games which I'd class away to Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen as which in itself is a wee bit of a problem with Gio but not a hugely destructive one. That got cut off yesterday with Lundstram's unfair sending off and then the second red.

If we're thinking that celtic will never drop points we're in for a pleasant surprise as well

im not worried about them, what worries me is Gios style of play.  if it doesnt change? he will be under pressure, we can't go on playing like this.  it will cost us again and again. 

[sibsy72 112]

3 hours ago, kelvd1873 said:

The club as a whole are weak as fuck when it comes to things like this mate. When lundstrum was fouled there was hardly a blue shirt in at the ref asking for a red, when lundstrum was sent off there was 5 or so hibs shirts in the refs face. 

Mate at worked said the exact same thing.

Why was there no one around whem lundstram was surrounded by tgey cunts.

Club need to release a statement calling this out.

Need a new keeper aswell was like a statue for the goal yesterday amd i still standby mcgregor saves that all day long.

[kelvd1873 7,659]

4 minutes ago, sibsy72 said:

Mate at worked said the exact same thing.

Why was there no one around whem lundstram was surrounded by tgey cunts.

Club need to release a statement calling this out.

Need a new keeper aswell was like a statue for the goal yesterday amd i still standby mcgregor saves that all day long.

Mcgregor imo at least attempts to save it. But mcgregors time is gone as teams just pump the ball into the box and he can’t come and claim it. I’d put mccrorie in. He did well against celtic last season and it was the only team we had a clean sheet against them. 

[Rangers_no1 34,601]

14 minutes ago, sibsy72 said:

 amd i still standby mcgregor saves that all day long.

[SPWF 8,932]

Buzzing for VAR to make us a better football team. 

[rabc10000 5,094]

10 hours ago, .Williamson. said:

Appeal will clear it. Doesn’t change the fact it was a pretty stupid challenge to make in a nothing area of the pitch. 

Lundstrams was a yellow and Morelos’ was a red imo. Doesn’t matter, games over now and the two reds cost us 

Yet no mention from yourself about the Hibs player who done an almost identical challenge in the first half to lundstram.

Neither were reckless challenges but calculated for a reason. Just u batter in tho mate. Ref fucked us but your happy to blame our players. Says enough

[RS4_wul 4,253]

19 hours ago, 2nd Flute said:

Maybe put an argument up about how this scared at the back, hopeless going forward Rangers team will make us feel better? 

I'm not disputing how poor we have been in the league so far this season bud. Not disputing that we definitely need to cut out the slow, ponderous shite as well.

I'm willing to wait longer than four games into a league season though to see how things are shaping up. 

Maybe in the coming weeks/months we'll start scoring early goals, killing teams off by halftime.

I accept as some have said we will drop more points out with the games against them, but that's always happened and always will.

The thing is though, they'll drop points as well, it's always happened and always will.

I don't think we are hopeless going forward, we can play some superb stuff at times (particularly in Europe it seems) and maybe this Rangers team will make us all feel better on Wednesday night.

[RS4_wul 4,253]

19 hours ago, Swagger said:

He’s right. No way we aren’t dropping more points after the next few games 

Is he though? We may well drop points between now and sheep away but he said we will be at least 7 points behind after it.

Not so sure about that.