Malkytfp1 18,600 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, Stunels said: This is nonsense captains are absolutely crucial to the team's mentality. Tav is a loser and Rangers will be losers for as long as he holds the role. The rebuild starts with changing the captaincy. Disagree with the Cantwell shout, however. So does Sakala score today if we have another captain? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stunels 1,248 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 1 minute ago, KeyserSoze said: Lol So let’s see. Goldson’s the captain, does Sakala score then? Morelos runs about a bit more? it’s the biggest myth in football. mcgregor will be seen as a great captain because all their players are better than us and have won more whilst he’s been captain. Not because he’s made them better, they are self motivated and the correct characters to win stuff Who knows if that game wouldve gone differently. I know for sure that Tav has captained failure after failure. If you dont see the work a captain does then I dont see the point in this argument as I dont see any way I could see eye to eye with the way you understand the game. Davemac 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stunels 1,248 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Malkytfp1 said: So does Sakala score today if we have another captain? See other reply Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,383 Posted April 30, 2023 Author Share Posted April 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, blaudrup said: Not sure what your point is here. You taking offence to him referring to a ‘project’? If so, that seems a bit daft. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somemightsay7 2,417 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Stunels said: Who knows if that game wouldve gone differently. I know for sure that Tav has captained failure after failure. If you dont see the work a captain does then I dont see the point in this argument as I dont see any way I could see eye to eye with the way you understand the game. Is Harry Kane a terrible captain? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,918 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 Maybe I'm old school, but I believe a captain's role is crucial. Bears 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,580 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Stunels said: Who knows if that game wouldve gone differently. I know for sure that Tav has captained failure after failure. If you dont see the work a captain does then I dont see the point in this argument as I dont see any way I could see eye to eye with the way you understand the game. So if Tav captained players that were winners and can graft and battle for each other he would be a good captain? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stunels 1,248 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Somemightsay7 said: Is Harry Kane a terrible captain? Has he won anything? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stunels 1,248 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 1 minute ago, KeyserSoze said: So if Tav captained players that were winners and can graft and battle for each other he would be a good captain? Big if. Personally dont think its possible to see a good team under him hes a loser. Davemac 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,534 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 OP comes from the fact that Cantwell was one of the few to show assertiveness and self confidence today. Went about it with the right attitude, unlike many. So I get the sentiment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrupsleftfoot 10,950 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 This @Stunels guy is for the watching. KeyserSoze 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaudrup 5,424 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, beararse said: Not sure what your point is here. You taking offence to him referring to a ‘project’? If so, that seems a bit daft. Only in the context of becoming captain of Rangers. I don't think you can lose an OF match and describe Rangers winning against them as a 'project'. It was discussed at the time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,383 Posted April 30, 2023 Author Share Posted April 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said: So does Sakala score today if we have another captain? Might not need Sakala to score if we had another captain. The game plan, or the application of the game plan, might have changed the game up to that point. The fact is we have won very little and lost a lot under the current captain. Goldson has also been an ever present in a team winning practically nothing. Need fresh impetus. Looking at what we have to hand, Cantwell stands out by a country mile. Passionate, full of drive and energy, clearly a very good footballer, confident in his own abilities and very comfortable dealing with the media. Ticks a lot of boxes IMO. mearns loyal 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboBearToo 384 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 The words deckchair and Titanic spring to mind Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,904 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 Bring in a leader. Theres none in the squad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,383 Posted April 30, 2023 Author Share Posted April 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: So if Tav captained players that were winners and can graft and battle for each other he would be a good captain? If he could inspire players to be winners and grafters then yes, otherwise no. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,383 Posted April 30, 2023 Author Share Posted April 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Inigo said: IP comes.from the fact that Cantwell was one of the few to show assertiveness and self confidence today. Went about it with the right attitude, unlike many. So I get the sentiment. He’s been a standout in practically all the games he’s played in. Ran himself into the ground last week too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stunels 1,248 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said: This @Stunels guy is for the watching. just saying my piece same as everyone not trying to ruffle feathers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie0202 12,363 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 😂 This place for kneejerk reactions after a defeat is unreal. Malkytfp1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 18,600 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, beararse said: Might not need Sakala to score if we had another captain. The game plan, or the application of the game plan, might have changed the game up to that point. The fact is we have won very little and lost a lot under the current captain. Goldson has also been an ever present in a team winning practically nothing. Need fresh impetus. Looking at what we have to hand, Cantwell stands out by a country mile. Passionate, full of drive and energy, clearly a very good footballer, confident in his own abilities and very comfortable dealing with the media. Ticks a lot of boxes IMO. It's absolutely mental to put all that down to Tav being captain. But honestly it's equally as mental to make a guy just in the door who has probably played just above average so far as captain. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,383 Posted April 30, 2023 Author Share Posted April 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, blaudrup said: Only in the context of becoming captain of Rangers. I don't think you can lose an OF match and describe Rangers winning against them as a 'project'. It was discussed at the time. I’d rather have a captain who considers Rangers an exciting ‘project’ than one who publicly admits we can’t handle pressure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somemightsay7 2,417 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, Stunels said: Has he won anything? No he hasn't. But everyone that's worked with him says he's a great captain. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,603 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 Just now, Somemightsay7 said: No he hasn't. But everyone that's worked with him says he's a great captain. That’s funny, because the majority that have worked with him won’t have played with him being a captain. TamCoopz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,580 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, beararse said: If he could inspire players to be winners and grafters then yes, otherwise no. But Goldson’s a bit shouty and Shagger too. But nope still nothing Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stunels 1,248 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, Somemightsay7 said: No he hasn't. But everyone that's worked with him says he's a great captain. When it comes to Rangers winning is the only thing you can really judge a captain on unfortunately. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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