dee9 3,972 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Sums us up tbh letting the lad go.....shocking bit of buisness. Rupret 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa6995 3,645 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 I hope we can bring in a decent replacement but as of now he is the best defender we have and as such should have been offered a contract befitting that position. Good luck to him I hope he is a success and gets a regular game, our loss is Hamburg’s gain. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMckee 3,420 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Our form changed as soon as he got injured in that game against the scum at Ibrox. We where winning 2-1 at the time if I recall than let in that soft goal and you know the rest. Been shite at the back since than and funny enough comes back in and does well. More important player than some give credit for and if he had a tan and his surname finished in a I or an O people would be raving about him. Zappa6995 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brackley Bluenose 4,479 Posted May 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2018 I have to say as much as I don’t mind Bates, lauding him as the saviour to our defensive problems is symptomatic of how much our club has fallen. He’s ok but without doubt he’s limited. The bottom line is he’s not Rangers quality, let’s not lose sight of what we should actually be aspiring to, rather than fall in line with the woeful ambition of our horrific board. westenclosure2008, Laudrup1690, Tomatasauce and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,361 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 17 minutes ago, MrMckee said: Our form changed as soon as he got injured in that game against the scum at Ibrox. We where winning 2-1 at the time if I recall than let in that soft goal and you know the rest. Been shite at the back since than and funny enough comes back in and does well. More important player than some give credit for and if he had a tan and his surname finished in a I or an O people would be raving about him. It was 1-1 when he got injured. He got injured trying to clean up Goss' mess by letting Rogic walk past him like a Pussy. Between that incident and his comeback at the weekend we've conceded 15 goals. Pathetic in truth. MrMckee 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,361 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 15 minutes ago, Brackley Bluenose said: I have to say as much as I don’t mind Bates, lauding him as the saviour to our defensive problems is symptomatic of how much our club has fallen. He’s ok but without doubt he’s limited. The bottom line is he’s not Rangers quality, let’s not lose sight of what we should actually be aspiring to, rather than fall in line with the woeful ambition of our horrific board. Why is he not Rangers quality? People say that then don't have a decent answer as to why he isn't Rangers quality ? Even then, his progress since last season has been superb, I imagine he can only get better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoatbridgeBear 7,113 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Mental man He’s the best of a bad bunch, and nowhere near the level we need. Tomatasauce, To Be A Ranger and dougie76 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLaudrup 4,606 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 56 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: We have lost sight of what a good defender looks like. We’ve shipped over 45 league goals this season and he’s been part of that stop kidding on ffs Spot on. He is decent and has potential but no more. Cutting out the mediocrity that has infested our club is the first step in improving going forward. westenclosure2008 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brackley Bluenose 4,479 Posted May 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, King Jela said: Why is he not Rangers quality? People say that then don't have a decent answer as to why he isn't Rangers quality ? Even then, his progress since last season has been superb, I imagine he can only get better. Think of someone that has won league titles for us. Richard Gough, Terry Butcher, David Weir, Lorenzo Amoruso, Majid Bougherra even. Do you see any of the qualities those men displayed in DB? Where’s the leadership? Where’s the dominance? Where’s the desire to kick your granny to win every ball? I don’t see it. Too many of our support have got used to seeing sub standard shite and what’s worse it’s accepted. SeparateEntityMyArse, DrLaudrup, Laudrup1690 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
don logan 8,064 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Siwel said: We (apparently) offered him 1.5k a week..let that sink in. Absolutely no way this is true. To Be A Ranger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrup1690 1,064 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 10 minutes ago, King Jela said: Why is he not Rangers quality? People say that then don't have a decent answer as to why he isn't Rangers quality ? Even then, his progress since last season has been superb, I imagine he can only get better. We need better than Bates if we want to be number one again. would of been good as a back up player next season. people make out he’s the next gough in the making ? CoatbridgeBear and Brackley Bluenose 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupret 223 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, don logan said: Absolutely no way this is true. Think it is, his agent said, more to the point it is shocking he is our best defender, I had hopes for Alves and Cardoso. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
To Be A Ranger 4,032 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Siwel said: We (apparently) offered him 1.5k a week..let that sink in. I'll bet you blushed writing that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 minute ago, To Be A Ranger said: I'll bet you blushed writing that I’m not fishing mate thats what he was offered according to David Edgar Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
To Be A Ranger 4,032 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rupret said: Think it is, his agent said, more to the point it is shocking he is our best defender, I had hopes for Alves and Cardoso. FFS he was offered a good few grand a week that most of us would've jumped at. His agent wanted a lot more and Hamburg offered him even more. He's not good enough for us to get involved in a bidding war. Imagine the meltdown had we offered him £20k a week cause that's what it would have got to dougie76 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
To Be A Ranger 4,032 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Siwel said: I’m not fishing mate thats what he was offered according to David Edgar Well he's wrong. The older youths get close to that ffs don logan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 minute ago, To Be A Ranger said: FFS he was offered a good few grand a week that most of us would've jumped at. His agent wanted a lot more and Hamburg offered him even more. He's not good enough for us to get involved in a bidding war. Imagine the meltdown had we offered him £20k a week cause that's what it would have got to We should have offered him a contract before Hamburg had a chance to. I don’t think it was all down to money for him if we had gave him a decent enough wage in comparison to what the rest of defenders are on then I think he would have stayed. Grundy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,786 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 We’ll be able to get him back in January when he decides he wants to move back to Scotland because he can’t get into the Hamburg team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
To Be A Ranger 4,032 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 minute ago, DBBTB said: We’ll be able to get him back in January when he decides he wants to move back to Scotland because he can’t get into the Hamburg team. By that time we will have had the defence sorted. If we get to Jan and want Bates back I'd bet Gerrard is out of a job Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
don logan 8,064 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, Rupret said: Think it is, his agent said, more to the point it is shocking he is our best defender, I had hopes for Alves and Cardoso. It's shite. He wouldn't have needed to go all the way to Germany to better that. About 4 teams in Scotland could trump it as could about half of League One in England. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
don logan 8,064 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, To Be A Ranger said: Well he's wrong. The older youths get close to that ffs I know for a fact Gregg Wylde was on about 1.5K when he broke into the first team. To Be A Ranger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooblue 1,973 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 minute ago, To Be A Ranger said: By that time we will have had the defence sorted. If we get to Jan and want Bates back I'd bet Gerrard is out of a job As part of this process we really need to get shot of that waste of space Martin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
To Be A Ranger 4,032 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Trooblue said: As part of this process we really need to get shot of that waste of space Martin. He's only on loan. He won't be part of Gerrard's plans Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,113 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Blue_Devil said: No coincidence our good run of form ended with his injury. Solid. Not spectacular but solid. Should have been nailing Rogic, rather than being nailed by him. I think we’re seeing the best of him & we can part wondering ‘what might have been’. Wish him well, though, & I enjoyed the fact it was him, in his next to next to last game that nabbed the winner on Saturday. To Be A Ranger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Band of Brothers said: Let's wait and see but not our answer to winning the league ffs Absolutely none of them are our answer to winning this league. Band of Brothers 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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