EatDolphins 5,355 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Even if a so called Rangers fan was acting like a complete prick, everyone should stand with that person just because you are a Rangers fan.If someone is genuinly being mistreated then i have no doubt people would stand shoulder to shoulder with them. If someone brings it on themself then they will have to live with the consequences.Exactly. I'll be fucked if I'm getting charged with assaulting a copper cause the wee jaked up ned wank beside me decides to act like a cunt.Apologies for the profanity SectionRedHMS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Negri's Beard 1,423 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Have the victims made a complaint? The Police are always keen to remind us we are under CCTV surveillance during games, especially the UB and BO. If cops are caught battonning anyone they will be in the shit.Said this in another thread, if people feel they have been harshly treated then they ought to make police complaints. I'm 100% sure that if a Rangers fan was innocent and wanted to prove this, then the club would be more than happy to aid their claim with the CCTV footage they no doubt have Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Even if a so called Rangers fan was acting like a complete prick, everyone should stand with that person just because you are a Rangers fan.If someone is genuinly being mistreated then i have no doubt people would stand shoulder to shoulder with them. If someone brings it on themself then they will have to live with the consequences.I was talking about fans who have done nothing and been picked on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Negri's Beard 1,423 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I was talking about fans who have done nothing and been picked on. Absolutely. These fans sure of their innocence should be making complaints today about police treatment Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EatDolphins 5,355 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Said this in another thread, if people feel they have been harshly treated then they ought to make police complaints. I'm 100% sure that if a Rangers fan was innocent and wanted to prove this, then the club would be more than happy to aid their claim with the CCTV footage they no doubt haveEven if the Police and the club refused to release any CCTV footage it's a simple matter of a letter to the information commissionaire. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Negri's Beard 1,423 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Even if the Police and the club refused to release any CCTV footage it's a simple matter of a letter to the information commissionaire.Can't imagine the club denying a genuinely innocent fan the footage mind you Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EatDolphins 5,355 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Can't imagine the club denying a genuinely innocent fan the footage mind youNor I. Just stating the path doesn't end there should they wish to travel it. Should they not, then nothing will ever change. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectre 1,663 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 So where are you? If you exist in our stands, our buses or our pubs your awfy fucking quiet.The guys whose behaviour is being complained about always seem so reasonable and open minded that I can't think why one guy wouldn't want to say something to them. Just as easy as it is to complain online after the event it's also easy to claim that you would speak up in public if you disagreed with someone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I think that's the point some on here are making.Yeah, and now I'm making it. My opinions carry more weight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstamomusa 3,809 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I'm not very enamoured by popery Therm what has popery got to do with us playing teams like Annan? I guess I missed the memo on that.We are in the 3rd division why can't we just enjoy the games. S1lv3r 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I have looked at plenty of people who - for various reasons - I have thought "what a prick he is" but I have not actually said anything (and I am sure i have had it in return!). I dont verbalise everything that comes into my head and I wouldn't expect others to do the same.I would think this is especially true if its a drunk group as people tend to be more belligerent when drunk and when their friends are around - telling them to shut up its not an especially good idea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionRedHMS 190 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Can't imagine the club denying a genuinely innocent fan the footage mind youBy law they must. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionRedHMS 190 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I think if the police look hard enough they will always find a reason to wade in if that's what they want to doAgree. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionRedHMS 190 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Yeah, and now I'm making it. My opinions carry more weight.Due to your massive ego....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 What would some of the moaners have said about our support back in the 60s and 70s when we were mental and nothing scared them including the police.Probably nothing, because at that time, none of the songs sung were deemed illegal and could have got fans/the club into trouble.I would absolutely LOVE to be able to sing what we wanted at the football, but unfortunately that is not the society we live in anymore.I would prefer nothing was sung that could harm our club. If some feel that makes me less of a fan, then that's their opinion, I disagree with that opinion. TheCutch and chris81 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Due to your massive ego.......Exactly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelf 1,153 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Ok. So folk say fans/ club will get in trouble? Fans maybe. But please show me the mechanism for the club being punished? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Ok. So folk say fans/ club will get in trouble? Fans maybe. But please show me the mechanism for the club being punished?Since when has the SFA had to have a mechanisim? they just make shit up as they go along mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianb1547 3,767 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Rangers fined and fans banned from next away match in Europe by Uefa•Rangers punished for 'discriminatory chanting' at PSV• Uefa imposes suspended supporter ban for next home gameIs that what you're looking for? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianb1547 3,767 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Im like many many others. In my younger days I sang every song...in full.Now....times have changed. The laws have changed. Society has changed.Whether I agree with all these changes is irrelevant.Anything that has negativity around it damages our club. Seems like a no-brainer to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Manticore* 1,893 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 There is no justification for hitting 14, 15 year old girls and boys on the head with batons because they either sang a song or held up a flag.Some people really have to have a good look at themselves and stop trying to justify beating up children in the name of the law.Who has suggested otherwise? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Manticore* 1,893 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Exactly.Pah! It's puny.You should get a bigger one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Manticore* 1,893 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Rangers fined and fans banned from next away match in Europe by Uefa•Rangers punished for 'discriminatory chanting' at PSV• Uefa imposes suspended supporter ban for next home gameIs that what you're looking for?Thanks for that.I didn't realise that SFL3 came under UEFA's jurisdiction. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I am sure it is extremely important that the truest of the true Rangers fans should carrying on singing whatever songs they want. Even when in the past it has damaged the club financially, even when in the past it has seen people arrested and chucked out of games, and even when the club has continually denounced it and asked people to stop. Even when they stopped us getting the atmosphere building version of 'The Best' before a game because certain fans can't control themselves.Despite all that, I am sure it is much more important that some people get to sing the songs that they want. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Pah! It's puny.You should get a bigger one.Size isn't important, it's how you use it that counts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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