bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 This forum would be a pretty dull place if folk just read articles then waited for proof before discussing things. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 This forum would be a pretty dull place if folk just read articles then waited for proof before discussing things.It would be like watching BBC4 on tranquilizers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace 3,644 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 This forum would be a pretty dull place if folk just read articles then waited for proof before discussing things.I agree but there is still no need jump all over the club when there is no proof to do so, certainly you could argue hypotheticals but not as if its a statement of fact. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allgers 735 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Glad that this was sorted out amicably. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiser1041 9,107 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Regardless of the term of this mutal termination i consider it smart from us we need to concentrate on football not other shite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
somerset bear 34 86 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 It really all depends on how much we give him, in the end of the day we would have had to pay him off anyway cause he was not up to the job. Hope he still sues the cunt who set him up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 I agree but there is still no need jump all over the club when there is no proof to do so, certainly you could argue hypotheticals but not as if its a statement of fact.I don't think anyone has stated on here that we've paid him off, just that they would like to know what's happened.We're shite at things like that so I think it's natural to assume the worst. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,613 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Sandaza signs for Findushe making crispy pancakes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crespie6 334 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 If they settled with him, then hell mend us...........every agent will have noted this along with the other players that have left recently as the Club being an easy touch in negotiations.This guy Dickson.....what's his background? I found it hard to believe bain was in charge with salary negotiations Do you think this is how negotiations went in the past? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehost 11,061 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 To paraphrase mr MilliganWalter Smith, his part in our downfall Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Forever 179 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 I love it when people come on a forum to tell others that they shouldn't be discussing things. Kind of defeats the purpose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeli 27 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Rangers only now sorting the mess CG left behind, To much heavy handedness when Charlie was in control.Agree, there's a right way to do things. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamFyfe 1,438 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Paid off then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Negri's Beard 1,423 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 *Presumption and then anger*Ragin'Fuck sake Ally/Mather/Rangers employee Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reformation Bear 6,453 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 So.....brevity of statement is bound to lead to speculation of capitulation and pay off in order to keep a quiet life. The voice that has been found (after much trumpeting of being prepared to use a voice) turns out to be of mouse-like proportion. Say as little as you think you can get away with and hope for the best that the the inevitable media mini-storm will blow over quickly, and hope that Sandaza himself decides not to make some mischief out of it. So much for a new CEO standing tall for Rangers. It sure does not look or feel like that from the low-key statement he must have authorised for release. I expect the amount paid will be disclosed in the annual accounts - a write off cost no doubt. And the Board wants stability? Oh, I forgot, there was a cleansing to take place - maybe this is one of the cleansing acts. If the Club is going to make a statement then unless under legal advisement to the contrary why not make a more informative statement designed to avoid taking what are self inflicted bruises about what the CEO/Board has done (or not done). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 15,074 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 I'm not one to disrespect an ex Rangers player, but Sandaza wasn't fit to wear our shirt.I note that the RFC web site states we have reached agreement with Sandaza and that he has now officially gone. This sounds like yet another capitulation from the Club. Charles Green would have taken this all the way.I think the agreement is.... you are sacked son, now fuck off and miss sitters for someone else. Wages, holidays, bonuses earned and paid in full.... now watch the door doesn't hit your leeching ass on the way out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 So.....brevity of statement is bound to lead to speculation of capitulation and pay off in order to keep a quiet life. The voice that has been found (after much trumpeting of being prepared to use a voice) turns out to be of mouse-like proportion. Say as little as you think you can get away with and hope for the best that the the inevitable media mini-storm will blow over quickly, and hope that Sandaza himself decides not to make some mischief out of it. So much for a new CEO standing tall for Rangers. It sure does not look or feel like that from the low-key statement he must have authorised for release. I expect the amount paid will be disclosed in the annual accounts - a write off cost no doubt. And the Board wants stability? Oh, I forgot, there was a cleansing to take place - maybe this is one of the cleansing acts. If the Club is going to make a statement then unless under legal advisement to the contrary why not make a more informative statement designed to avoid taking what are self inflicted bruises about what the CEO/Board has done (or not done).What about if they decided to mutually terminate the contract and that's it - perhaps a bigger statement is not needed ! My guess is as good as your speculation! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,624 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 *Presumption and then anger*Ragin'Fuck sake Ally/Mather/Rangers employeeYou forgot the classic fuck that i wont be renewing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,027 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Why are we angry? *Looks for pitchfork* Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Negri's Beard 1,423 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Why are we angry?*Looks for pitchfork*It's the default. The question should really be, why aren't you angry? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 I really shouldnt be surprised anymore at the hysterical overreactions on here (based on assumptions). I know some of you wont want to hear this but this is predominately Green's fault.....He did many wonderful things for our club but he was also very haphazard and confrontational in his approach both in actions and comments (grass in your mate line)....The reality is we were never going to win here....Sandazza would have won his case, if not with the SFA, certainly with the CAS....You can flap your gums about gross misconduct but he could just as easily play the foreigner card, no agent etc etc and we all know had this been Wallace or Macleod we would have handled it differently.....We have reached a settlement which wont be the full amount he is owed under contract and it saves us lawyers fees and the negative publicity of going to a tribunal.....Whats the problem??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehost 11,061 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 I really shouldnt be surprised anymore at the hysterical overreactions on here (based on assumptions). I know some of you wont want to hear this but this is predominately Green's fault.....He did many wonderful things for our club but he was also very haphazard and confrontational in his approach both in actions and comments (grass in your mate line)....The reality is we were never going to win here....Sandazza would have won his case, if not with the SFA, certainly with the CAS....You can flap your gums about gross misconduct but he could just as easily play the foreigner card, no agent etc etc and we all know had this been Wallace or Macleod we would have handled it differently.....We have reached a settlement which wont be the full amount he is owed under contract and it saves us lawyers fees and the negative publicity of going to a tribunal.....Whats the problem???I like the way you managed to make assumptions, of a rather large variety, yourself Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 I like the way you managed to make assumptions, of a rather large variety, yourselfMy "assumptions" are educated ones based on CAS history....the difference is I'm not jumping to conclusions and slating the club with no facts....when the full accounts are printed we can all stop making assumptions and see the facts in black and white however until then I'd much prefer to take a reasoned/balanced view on things instead of the constant negativity of some on here! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehost 11,061 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 My "assumptions" are educated ones based on CAS history....the difference is I'm not jumping to conclusions and slating the club with no facts....when the full accounts are printed we can all stop making assumptions and see the facts in black and white however until then I'd much prefer to take a reasoned/balanced view on things instead of the constant negativity of some on here!Assumptions based upon knowledge of the contract, internal communications, legal advice, discussions and clarity from the player and his legal repsyup Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 505 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Sandaza was an idiot but I always felt Green was too hasty to sack him. Hopefully the agreement reached was reasonable enough though so both parties may be happy enough with the overall outcome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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