Johnny Hubbard 280 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 If sold, a dose of reality for some I think.There is no need for us to be in this position, its a result of financial mis-management of the highest order I'm afraid.you're right and we are now reduced to selling our assetswhy can't people see that ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRITNEY IS NOT FEELING IT 8,293 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 That from sky? More republican bullshitTrue Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
topgoalie 637 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 If sold, a dose of reality for some I think.There is no need for us to be in this position, its a result of financial mis-management of the highest order I'm afraid.In a nutshell..... SeparateEntityMyArse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,938 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 True That was a joke from me btw Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Rangers have turned down a second, undisclosed bid fromNottingham Forest for Scotland international Lee Wallace, Sky Sports sources understand. Whilst Forest have been in talks with Rangers over Wallace, it is also believed that a deal to land David Vaughan from Sunderland - currently on loan at the club - is closekind of refutes the DR's take that Forest - after having the initial bid turned down - wont be back with another, as rangers are wrongly playing "hardball". Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,252 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 We may have deadwood in the squad, but the wage bill is low in relation to season ticket commitment.That is irrelevant.It's the season ticket commitment in relation to our monthly expenditure that's the problem. We are operating at a loss, hence the reason we have to cut costs. I appreciate we will generate more income once in the SPFL Premiership.Shouldn't the board have known how much we could spend on players given our current earnings? Sounds like a finger in the air guess may have been more accurate. topgoalie 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 If sold, a dose of reality for some I think.There is no need for us to be in this position, its a result of financial mis-management of the highest order I'm afraid.Hardly news that financial mismanagement is to blame for us being in the Scottish lower leagues Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,252 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 That from sky? More republican bullshitWhat do they know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,252 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Hardly news that financial mismanagement is to blame for us being in the Scottish lower leaguesUnfortunately, it's the latest bout of gross financial mis-management I'm talking about.As I'm sure you know. Bothwellbear and RFC55 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRITNEY IS NOT FEELING IT 8,293 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 That was a joke from me btwAllegedly Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Unfortunately, it's the latest bout of gross financial mis-management I'm talking about.As I'm sure you know.The possibility of selling players while at this level is not a shock. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingObv 10,646 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I've not been 'gutted' at a player leaving since King Carlos, but if Wallace goes I'll be sick!He's said repeatadly he wants to stay, if this happens how can Rangers expect us to keep paying big money for ST's etc when we sell our big players?WE ARE NOT A SELLING CLUB!Of course we are.Only 4/5 clubs in the world who aren't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Smails 13 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 That is irrelevant.It's the season ticket commitment in relation to our monthly expenditure that's the problem. We are operating at a loss, hence the reason we have to cut costs. I appreciate we will generate more income once in the SPFL Premiership.Shouldn't the board have known how much we could spend on players given our current earnings? Sounds like a finger in the air guess may have been more accurate.The players wages would not be a problem at any other club with our level of continued support.The probelm is all the money has been spent.Cost cutting is a smokescreen that should be happening anyway. We should be looking for investors. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Absolute bollocks and you know that... ....How does a contracted player get forced to leave against his will then? Especially with about two days left of the window? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NixonRFC 1,334 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 People need to take a step back and realise we are playing in the 3rd tier of a shit countries football. A £1.4m fee would unquestionably be a record in Scotland and will be up there with the best of transfers from a third division across Europe. If we need to sell, we need to sell. It's as simple as that folks. Hard to take but never a truer word spoken Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 The players wages would not be a problem at any other club with our level of continued support.The probelm is all the money has been spent.Cost cutting is a smokescreen that should be happening anyway. We should be looking for investors.We have general running costs that are expensive as well so it's not as simple as you make out Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,252 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 The possibility of selling players while at this level is not a shock.It is not necessary to run at a loss.For you to suggest any different simply shows how ridiculous your continued refusal to criticise the previous regime really is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
topgoalie 637 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 How does a contracted player get forced to leave against his will then? Especially with about two days left of the window?You tell me,because you seem to have all the answers.? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 We have 7 seats in Bar 72 and none will be renewed if Wallace is flogged at cut price to fund their rape of our clubPrick Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,725 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 So you feel we should get investment first then cost cut, what happens when the investment money is gone, do we cost cut then or just seek more investment. The more money saved by cutting costs will make more investment available, also graham Wallace is looking at getting more for the contracts we have, which In turn if he pulls it off will be a small investment againIts the only way mate.The thought of speculating to accumulate.......... ffs no Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,252 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 The players wages would not be a problem at any other club with our level of continued support.The probelm is all the money has been spent.Cost cutting is a smokescreen that should be happening anyway. We should be looking for investors.As I said in the post you quoted it is not the players wages that is the problem. The players are our only saleable asset so they become part of the solution.The problem is we chose to recruit players we cannot currently afford. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 It is not necessary to run at a loss.For you to suggest any different simply shows how ridiculous your continued refusal to criticise the previous regime really is.I've criticised it when I think it's due, like signing too many players, boardroom bonuses etc. But not everything is as simple as blaming those big bad Spivs, when Wallace transferred his contract most of us probably expected him to be sold anyway, his desire to stay despite our demotion has been a real bonus (and nobody will be holding a gun to his head btw however many bids are accepted).I'd be gutted to see him go but there's already some hysterical overreaction before anything is even confirmed. No man is bigger than the club and we'd move on as always. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 You tell me,because you seem to have all the answers.?You're the one that's suggesting it.I'm not saying i'd resent Wallace like I do the traitors etc but for a transfer to go through it will at least partly be his decision, the guy has about 3 or 4 years left on his contract if I remember right so he can sit tight if he wants to that badly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 You can't blame the press for running with a story that we rejected a bid for our best player.What are they supposed to do?"Aw here boys better not run with this cause the lads on RM will say it's a witch hunt and a anti-rangers agenda!"Please, we all saw it coming and the rumbles were clubs were ready to make offers for Lee. now you are either stupid or you are deliberately missing the point and I don't think you are stupid....I will say this one more time....it's not about the legitimacy of the bid or interest the issue arises from the little add ons and padding the rags add to these stories....read the DR article again and use your head.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 It is not necessary to run at a loss.For you to suggest any different simply shows how ridiculous your continued refusal to criticise the previous regime really is.I disagree.It probably is required for us to run at a loss in the lower leagues until we get back to the premiership. The alternative would be to rip appart our infrastructure at the expense of our future.Our loss should not be what it is though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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