D'Artagnan 13,319 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Hypocrisy Overloadhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9587937/BBC-complicit-in-tax-avoidance-for-household-names-say-MPs.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Surely not, must be a mistake D'Art Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie 12,906 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Maybe they will make an "award winning program" naming and shaming themselves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamgers 1,216 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Deary me that's just shocking...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hume 13,868 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 This will be interesting ...... can see all sorts of new tax case websites opening up now to demonise and degrade .......... not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimgers 565 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Sporting advantage over other Sports channels surely? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumnockbear 2,446 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Strip the BBC of the TV licence Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I hope it transpires that the speccy wee bastard Golum is one of them, now that would be both ironic and funny Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMac 1,405 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 On a similar note but in a far grander scale.http://taxjustice.blogspot.de/2013/04/irish-tax-haven-creator-rings-lse-bell.htmlGoogle had over £3 billion in sales in the UK and paid only £20 million in tax. All thanks to a scheme called "The Double irish" created by Dermot Desmond. See abovehttp://metro.co.uk/2015/10/12/heres-why-its-legal-for-facebook-to-pay-less-than-5000-in-british-tax-5434871/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumnockbear 2,446 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I hope it transpires that the speccy wee bastard Golum is one of them, now that would be both ironic and funnyOh i'd love that! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 26,432 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 This calls for a RIFC board meeting to discuss the fact's just conference call Davie its the new fashion Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin 13,715 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Strip the BBC of the TV licence Never had and no intention of ever having one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumnockbear 2,446 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Never had and no intention of ever having one.Cheat just like The Rangers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianferguson 2,619 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 This will be interesting ...... can see all sorts of new tax case websites opening up now to demonise and degrade .......... not. 3 year old article so the story must be a slow burner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Would be willing to bet .This does not apply to one member of the Bbc Scotland squad .All who are whiter than white of course Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Hypocrisy Overloadhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9587937/BBC-complicit-in-tax-avoidance-for-household-names-say-MPs.htmlFfs bears den? Personal supply companies are used by many more than the BBC and they do not prevent / avoid tax just shift the responsibility - this has more to do with the current demonisation of the BBC ( politics) and it's certainly not a Bears Den subject! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amato 3,094 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Ffs bears den? Personal supply companies are used by many more than the BBC and they do not prevent / avoid tax just shift the responsibility - this has more to do with the current demonisation of the BBC ( politics) and it's certainly not a Bears Den subject!Explain how they don't reduce the tax due Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,569 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Ffs bears den? Personal supply companies are used by many more than the BBC and they do not prevent / avoid tax just shift the responsibility - this has more to do with the current demonisation of the BBC ( politics) and it's certainly not a Bears Den subject!Widespread accross the oil and gas, eng & construction and commercial sectors. In oil and gas it accounts for around 60% of all workers. Companies in the sectors have been put through the wringer on this one and rules of engagement agreed with HMRC over 15 years ago. My company uses this practice as do our competitors, it being common place.Tax planning type providers and one man band limited companies are used. They firstly reduce the overhead of the host company, but they can and do reduce the personal tax liability, but do so legally. If the person fails to pay any taxes due via these vehicles, there is precedence where HMRC can pursue the ulitimate customer in being the host company, where the person is deemed to be an employee if he/she is working there full time and the host company made responsible for the personal tax liability.The intermediary provider are normally held under contract to check that all taxes have paid to date by way of annual returns, vat reg. etc However, in tax case law, the intermediary hold no liability as this cannot be deemed to be the persons place work. As in say the person using a ltd company, he can minimise taxible PAYE earnings, via posting profit at a 20% corporation tax rate and so pn.The MP concerned, probably has just never heard of the practice and knows fuck all about tax law, but the point made is about the BBC setting an example in being funded by the public purse. I get that, but they are doing nowt illegal themselves, but the persons in receipt/under contract may indeed be tax avoiding or even tax evading. In the private sector that is a risk that it taken and ultimately the host companies take the liability. In the public sector, that maybe a risk too far and appear an unacceptable practice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallochBear 1,613 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I hope it transpires that the speccy wee bastard Golum is one of them, now that would be both ironic and funnyExactly my thoughts, how good would that be if him and that mark daly guy were implicated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBlue 136 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Widespread accross the oil and gas, eng & construction and commercial sectors. In oil and gas it accounts for around 60% of all workers. Companies in the sectors have been put through the wringer on this one and rules of engagement agreed with HMRC over 15 years ago. My company uses this practice as do our competitors, it being common place.Tax planning type providers and one man band limited companies are used. They firstly reduce the overhead of the host company, but they can and do reduce the personal tax liability, but do so legally. If the person fails to pay any taxes due via these vehicles, there is precedence where HMRC can pursue the ulitimate customer in being the host company, where the person is deemed to be an employee if he/she is working there full time and the host company made responsible for the personal tax liability.The intermediary provider are normally held under contract to check that all taxes have paid to date by way of annual returns, vat reg. etc However, in tax case law, the intermediary hold no liability as this cannot be deemed to be the persons place work. As in say the person using a ltd company, he can minimise taxible PAYE earnings, via posting profit at a 20% corporation tax rate and so pn.The MP concerned, probably has just never heard of the practice and knows fuck all about tax law, but the point made is about the BBC setting an example in being funded by the public purse. I get that, but they are doing nowt illegal themselves, but the persons in receipt/under contract may indeed be tax avoiding or even tax evading. In the private sector that is a risk that it taken and ultimately the host companies take the liability. In the public sector, that maybe a risk too far and appear an unacceptable practice.I think the main issue is that the BBC can reduce it's NI contributions this way and publicly funded organizations should not be using this type of tax avoidance scheme. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMac 1,405 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Ffs bears den?Personal supply companies are used by many more than the BBC and they do not prevent / avoid tax just shift the responsibility - this has more to do with the current demonisation of the BBC ( politics) and it's certainly not a Bears Den subject!They avoid paying employers NIC,. It says so in the article. The employee pays himself a dividend thus avoiding employees NIC and reduces tax liability. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,630 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Get Eastenders stripped of their soap awards. They had an unfair advantage over Corrie! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,700 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Hypocrisy Overloadhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9587937/BBC-complicit-in-tax-avoidance-for-household-names-say-MPs.htmlCan you use that as the basis for a blog to tear them apart as they deserve to be shown up for what they are and i firmly believe you're good self is the man to do it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue2thaCore 31 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 The problem with tax avoidance schemes is the Tories chums will be baw deep in them so really not much chance of the Government actually sorting the problem as it will hit their donations. And if they do I can imagine a new loophole will become available.It hypocritical to say the least. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyscott1963 19,120 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 It always seems that those who should loudest have the most to hide. Will not hold my breath for sanctions against the bbc and you can hear them saying "ah,but aye,eh,naw"Seems like talking about Saville and his type were not the only subject they don't want to speak about. Never could stand hypocrites. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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