Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 1 hour ago, Gooseman said: So how do we go about changing things? We cannot hold the SNP to account because there is no political party that has the balls or the numbers to stand up to them. When the biggest story in Scotland isn't being covered by any media outlet in the UK, then we are on a hiding to nothing. Via a well developed plan and a multi stranded, multi level coherent strategy, that includes the need to recognise, acknowledge and agree: The first principle in that appeasement and silence does not work (No need for the history lesson in that again), ensuring acceptance and unity in that principle, because by definition the journey will not be undertaken in silence and what needs to be said is said and put out there, backed up by facts. The objective and what success would look like. The risks associated with the journey and the mitigation of them thereof. That there will be casualties and failures along the way, but not to lose sight of the objective or weakened as a result. That there will be further demonisiation and dehumanisation, along with the personal attacks, defamation, innuendo and downright lies that will need to be attacked and exposed for what they are. As to whom ALL our enemies are. Identifying their strengths and weaknesses and from that, the strategy needed to defeat them. Rank them and prioritise them. From the strongest to the weakest. From the biggest to the smallest. From organisations to individuals. As to whom all our friends are and what the strategy is to bring them on board and combine our strengths.. As to what 3rd parties can add value, reinforce or lend weight to our campaign eg. politicians. As to how and when to choose our battles, as we cannot choose those which cannot be won. As to the communication means that will be needed to publicise our message, our successes in publicly unmasking those individuals, organisations and institutions who defame our good name and heritage. The contingency plan in response to a crisis, in how it is managed, as there surely will be. As to how we identify success and loss along the way. eg. Publishing a harshly worded rebuke to lies printed about us, is in itself not a success, but if the intended effect by doing so is achieved, then it is. The above is a flavour of a coherent approach to it. Not easy, but a well planned attack is one that can deliver success. Sad to say however, that Liewell already has this in his back pocket, whilst we obviously do not. As to how all this is organised and brought about. Well it firstly requires time and effort by those like minded with the will to see it through. The VB are already a vehicle and do some sterling work, but dare I say, the Club is by far best positioned to lead in this as when they talk everyone wants to listen, so it is well publicised, but it is not a priority for them. The VB is an ideal vehicle, but their tentacles do not reach far and wide enough and their sphere of influence are not as great, but that's not to say it can't be. I am not familiar with their structure or objectives in any detail, but maybe there could be a new impetuous, a new agenda for them in turning up the heat. There is also the C1872 and hopefully if D'Art gets on board it's another string to the bow. All of these organisations and more could/should be part of a concerted approach to winning the war that the scum have brought to our door. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingtom80 166 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 im lost for words,do these pigs not know that hundreds of brave catholics lost their lives in all the wars that has gone on over the ages and still going on,i should know. im an ex service man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperAli 1,350 Posted September 13, 2016 Author Share Posted September 13, 2016 Margaret Mitchell MSP sent me this statement: “This deeply offensive display of vandalism has united the whole community of Coatbridge, together with people in neighbouring communities, in their condemnation of this wanton act. “It should be put in perspective against the reverence and respect that people show every year when they gather on Remembrance Sunday. These memorials serve as a constant reminder of the debt of gratitude we owe to those who paid the ultimate sacrifice for our freedoms in past conflicts. “It is essential therefore, that Police Scotland now uses every tool available to it, including a thorough examination of social media in order to identify the perpetrators and ensure they are brought to justice.” Frank McNally, a councillor, responded to me almost instantaneously to let me know that the councillors of that particular ward met this morning and are coordinating their investigation alongside the Police. The cenotaph has now been cleaned of all graffiti too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedylan 11,555 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 4 hours ago, BridgeIsBlue said: The police are appealing for public information Good luck with those fenian bastards in Langloan. have they got the vermin who bottled the wee boy on the bus last year.? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
will2203 821 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Shocking, but should we be surprised by that lot? Sure this is not the first time this has happened. Seem to recall it happening before when Phil Coles was across the road. Normal for the wreaths to be destroyed within hours of being laid. Scum bastards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I never thought I would say this but they are getting worse Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibroxholm 2,276 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Not a mention of this outrage on BBC news website. When a news organisation places more weight on a vandalised toilet than a desecrated war memorial, they really have lost the plot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ibrox Derry 8,904 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 8 minutes ago, Ibroxholm said: Not a mention of this outrage on BBC news website. When a news organisation places more weight on a vandalised toilet than a desecrated war memorial, they really have lost the plot. Aye but they were very quick to report the graffiti at the st alloisis Catholic apartheid school in the city centre. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,364 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Aren't they clever Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmoonlight 6 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Proves what phoney Scottish nationalists we have in power might as well.call themselves Scottish branch of the Irish nationalists. True Scottish nationalism would be pride and celebration of the Scottish history, culture and traditions but it seems the opposite is happening but yet celebrating foreign cultures while whipping out our own. True Scottish nationists would round these scumbags up and putting them on trial for treason, desecration any grave or memorial of the dead in any war is disgusting but in your own fucking country to you own countries soldiers and your own countries government and media turn a blind eye.... What the hell does that tell you! It wouldn't happen in any other country in the whole damn world! this scum is so stupid also, its quite likely some of those names on that are their own fuckin ansestors! Especially if they come from that area and so did their parents and grandparents etc. Really don't know why they just go back home if they feel so much hate like that but its probably because the actual real Irish people, the decent Irish people wouldn't have them back because they are so much piles of human excrement Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnbank bear 342 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Fuckin scum of the earth !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 1 hour ago, The Ibrox Derry said: Aye but they were very quick to report the graffiti at the st alloisis Catholic apartheid school in the city centre. Therein lies the problem in 'One Scotland' the total lack of parity in how these events are treated by the media. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumhoilann 6,712 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 20 hours ago, theblueoysterbar said: It's a weird one. Most SNP MPs and MSPs have names that you might consider to be Protestant Scottish or Ulster Scots. In their odd quest to have power they seem to be over-compensating for this to get votes from people who aren't really from the stock they themselves came from. You can throw in Mhairi Black, but for every one of her there is an Alex Salmond, Nicola Sturgeon, Angus Robertson, John Nicolson. Not sure I get it at all. There's none as bitter as they that turn....it's like they have to prove themselves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumhoilann 6,712 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 10 hours ago, ritchieshearercaldow said: Obviously most of their party are paddy lovers, they like anything that goes against the Union, if they didn't encourage it they would be demanding that that club breaks all ties with the Irish republic and becomes truly Scottish, they bring out anti hate laws but say nothing when a dispicable show of hate is allowed to go unchallenged by them, never mind them cossying up to the Republic as a model for an Independent Scotland. Are Scots rebs really sure they want an Oirish style independence??? The Prod population in the Roi dropped from 10% to 2% today. Prods owning land (not al of them) had the land taken by the state. Prods were removed from public service jobs,hence their insistence on the gaelic language being a must for employment. And we all know how the men were treated who dared to fight for Britain in two world wars. The Common market was a life saver for the ROI,as it's ppl were almost destitute. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,798 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 58 minutes ago, siddiqi_drinker said: Therein lies the problem in 'One Scotland' the total lack of parity in how these events are treated by the media. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Just done a Google search into whose reported it. To be fair the list is not small - sun, rebel, evening times, stv, Scotsmen even the gherald but one glaring absentee is the bbc - so quick to report vandalism of toilets and 'insulting singing' but to them this is obviously a non story. Enough is enough with that lot - it's fuckin obvious it has an agenda Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinanderson 12 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 This sadly does not suprise me, this is not the first and wont be the last time these fucking scum spit on our brave soldiers who were forced into war to keep us great Britain ! The cenotaph in craigneuk, wishaw was vandalised a few years ago. It should be punishable by death, horrible vermin, fuck off and live somewhere else ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonnybear1972 8,130 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Page 26 snipet in the sun paper today,the scottish mhedia don't even try to hide their allegiance with these mickey bastards anymore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,459 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 15 hours ago, The Ibrox Derry said: Aye but they were very quick to report the graffiti at the st alloisis Catholic apartheid school in the city centre. Yeah I remember that. Top of their Scotland news page for two days Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ibrox Derry 8,904 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 6 hours ago, Prso's headband said: Yeah I remember that. Top of their Scotland news page for two days Private RC school so Nothing worse than offending tims with money either Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Will Follow Rangers 12,921 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 On 13/09/2016 at 0:22 AM, Inigo said: This is what happens when the criticism goes one way. They feel untouchable. Politicians and the media have a lot to answer for. Complicit at an institutional level. Compare and contrast the national outrage when a few lefty students, from privileged backgrounds, vandalised the statue of Churchill a few years back. How is it as a society we could become de sensitised to such an outrage? Because Politicians and their media mouth pieces have prioritised chasing Labours core vote in the west of Scotland over decency and morality and are terrified of doing anything to upset them. the SNP will in the longer term never be able to satisfy their agenda and they will eventually learn that pandering to the chippiest, most malcontented, most offended people ever, like supping with the devil, requires a long spoon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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