PRW. 5,631 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 As a Rangers player, Jimmy Nicholl worked under the likes of Jock Wallace and Graeme Souness, so it would be fair to say that he knows a thing or two about discipline. That’s why he is delighted to see that present-day Rangers boss Pedro Caixinha is taking a hard line when it comes to dealing with poor application from members of his squad. Harry Forrester is the latest player to be brought to task for his attitude, with the midfielder reportedly being sent away from the training ground for two weeks and being told he can find himself a new club. Nicholl reckons that standards have been slipping at Ibrox over the last few years, and he is glad that they seem to at last be rising again under the Portuguese gaffer. He is dismayed though that such action is having to be taken against a player who has come from Doncaster Rovers, and seems to have blown his chance at the big-time with Rangers. “It’s good to see Pedro doing what he is doing,” Nicholl told TimesSport. “I know the difference between discipline and non-discipline, and if you don’t have it then it just gets out of hand. “Even if it’s only one or two players, if you don’t discipline them then you lose the respect of the honest pros who might think that action should be getting taken. “All of a sudden, it snowballs, and players start to think that there’s no point in them having any standards because the manager doesn’t. You’ve got to do the right thing. “If the player hasn’t been applying himself in training properly, even if his future isn’t at Rangers, then that’s not acceptable. “I can’t understand young footballers these days who don’t enjoy training and don’t enjoy playing football. “Harry has been in and out of the team and has had injuries, but if he hasn’t been playing games for Rangers because of his attitude and application, then that’s horrific. “It should be a lesson to any young lad. If you get an opportunity to go to a club like Rangers, be on decent money and play in front of 50,000 every other week, then take it. “Take time out of your life and dedicate yourself to football, because you’re a long time not playing. “It really annoys me when I see young people with an attitude problem. Players will find their level, but if you’ve got ability and you don’t maximize it because of your attitude and application, then I’m sorry, but you don’t want those sorts of people about the place.” Even if Forrester has been told that he has no future at Ibrox, Nicholl believes that he may be doing his chances of a move to another club harm if he is refusing to give 100% in training. “The player has got to watch,” he said. “What if other managers phone Pedro about him? What is he supposed to say? That he has a player who is lazy, overweight and unfit with terrible application, and who is a cancer around the place? Does he want him to tell them that?” Working as he did with such hard task-masters in his time at Rangers, Nicholl is all too aware of how high standards off the field can seep their way onto the field, and positively influence a team’s form. And he hopes that Caixinha will continue to take a hard line with his players, so that everyone at the club knows what is expected of them. “One of the first things Jock Wallace said to me was that I was the luckiest man in the world," said Nicholl. "He said: ‘When you signed for Rangers under John Greig, you walked into training on the Friday morning with an open-necked shirt on and a jumper.’ “I only signed on the Thursday night, then had my breakfast at the Swallow Hotel on Bellahouston Road before training. "As I was walking over, this bloke said ‘good luck at Rangers son’. How he found out I had signed for Rangers the night before I don’t know. I just said: ‘Thanks very much’. “It turns out it was Eric Caldow that had spoken to me. He phoned Jock and told him. Jock said that if I had tried that two weeks later with him as the boss he would have kicked my a**e. “I didn’t know the rule was to wear a collar and tie to training, but it shows you the sort of standards that were in place. “When you were going over to the Albion for training you had to run, you weren’t allowed to walk. You had to have your socks up. “People might say that they were treating us like kids, but it was a form of discipline and you knew you had to toe the line. “Then Graeme Souness came, and Graeme was very much a disciplinarian. “The one example that stood out for me was in the way he dealt with Graham Roberts. We played a game and got beat one-nil, and he blamed Robbo for the goal. We had all rushed out to play offside, and Robbo had stayed in. “Souness said: ‘Are you not taking the blame for that goal? Are you taking the responsibility?’ “Robbo said no, and Souness replied: ‘Well congratulations, you have just played your last game for Glasgow Rangers. “And that’s what happened. That summer I was taking the reserves, and Souness had him in at eight in the morning running and then sent him away before the players came in, and then back again at half-four for more running. “That went on for ages. The first-team went to Italy and I had to take Robbo to the pre-season reserve games, away down to Blackpool and all these places. I was getting told to make him sub but don’t bring him on and things like that. “Robbo was no shrinking violet, but that showed who was boss.” Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,159 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Fucking love Souness!!!!! wonder how last seasons shower of shite would've got on with him in charge ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,718 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 The first-team went to Italy and I had to take Robbo to the pre-season reserve games, away down to Blackpool and all these places. I was getting told to make him sub but don’t bring him on and things like that. quality Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siam69 26,925 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Good reading, and very evident in what we have been missing, and it's repercussions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 That's the attitude that's needed. No more the gaffer is your friend and let's play kick the baws off his arse, or the happy clapper a player can do no wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,150 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Well done Pedro. I like Harry and think he's got a talent but if he's got a bad attitude or self-discipline problems which he wont personally address then it's time to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CF2 WINNIE 1,006 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Hammerring home Rangers standards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom0411 1,226 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Another great big Jock story. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smell the hotdog 4,015 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Love that from Jock Wallace and Souness. If Pedro can instil some of those standards in today's squad we will be in a lot better nick than last season that's for sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,110 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 19 minutes ago, CF2 WINNIE said: Hammerring home Rangers standards. Couldn't agree more. Warburton and McCoist were always clearly more interested in making sure they didn't upset their pals, losing respect of the dressing room in the process. Pedro is cracking the whip and it's great to see. Forrester has always had a problem with his application going by all accounts, if he can't raise himself at a place like Rangers then he needs booting out the door. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Action is needed .As long as we get action on and off the park .I will be happy Not going to go overboard about anything at this point though Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyscott1963 18,328 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Cheers PRW. An excellent piece and makes me so positive about PC and where we are heading. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec87 331 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Frank Harrison said: The first-team went to Italy and I had to take Robbo to the pre-season reserve games, away down to Blackpool and all these places. I was getting told to make him sub but don’t bring him on and things like that. quality We all loved Robbo at the time and were devastated Souness binned him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin 13,619 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Legendary Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthranger 3,872 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 20 minutes ago, Alec87 said: We all loved Robbo at the time and were devastated Souness binned him. In fairness, even Souness admitted he was uncontrollable at that time, and made some poor decisions based on heat of the moment stuff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Jock Wallace 858 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 From Wikipedia: Warburton began his playing career as an apprentice at Leicester City under Frank McLintock and later dropped into Non-League football with Enfield.[5][6] Warburton took a dislike to the methods of McLintock's successor at Leicester, Jock Wallace,[5] later saying "he was a Marine. We had runs on sand-dunes, running until we threw up. I learned a lot from that, never treating a player that way" Perhaps if he'd embraced the discipline Jock Wallace was famous for he wouldn't have dropped into non league football & make such a cunt of it with Rangers. Struth set the standards for all our managers right up to Smith & McLeish. It's early days but i think Pedro knows what this club is all about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboscot 1,176 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 32 minutes ago, mrmojorisin said: Legend There were 9 legends that day Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryju84 3,170 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, One Jock Wallace said: From Wikipedia: Warburton began his playing career as an apprentice at Leicester City under Frank McLintock and later dropped into Non-League football with Enfield.[5][6] Warburton took a dislike to the methods of McLintock's successor at Leicester, Jock Wallace,[5] later saying "he was a Marine. We had runs on sand-dunes, running until we threw up. I learned a lot from that, never treating a player that way" Perhaps if he'd embraced the discipline Jock Wallace was famous for he wouldn't have dropped into non league football & make such a cunt of it with Rangers. Struth set the standards for all our managers right up to Smith & McLeish. It's early days but i think Pedro knows what this club is all about. I thought this second paragraph was what someone had edited Wikipedia with Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Jock Wallace 858 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, Ryju84 said: I thought this second paragraph was what someone had edited Wikipedia with 2nd paragraph was me mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec87 331 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 1 hour ago, mrmojorisin said: Legend Still have that as screensaver on my laptop. What a day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamess 3,422 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 I seem to have missed this thread. I don't understand why Jimmy Nicholl has never had a role at Ibrox. Someone that always talk sense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlands plater 16,975 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Wonder what Jock or Souness would think of players wearing Alice bands. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 1 hour ago, jamess said: I seem to have missed this thread. I don't understand why Jimmy Nicholl has never had a role at Ibrox. Someone that always talk sense. Always thought he'd have been great, better than JJ, alongside Pedro as he understands the club and the culture. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 34 minutes ago, harlands plater said: Wonder what Jock or Souness would think of players wearing Alice bands. Alice, Alice who the fuck is Alice...... sorry couldn't resist that one Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmcf 34,190 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Really can't see how anyone can argue against that . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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