TMB 14,167 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 I was just having a look at the assist tables and noticed that during last seasons league campaign our full-backs done quite well. Lee Wallace created 5 goals, and Tavernier also created 5 goals: Lee Wallace also scored 3 goals, while Tavernier only scored 1. Rangers scored a total of 56 league goals last season and our full-backs were directly involved in 14 of them. To put that in to perspective, our full-backs were involved in 1 out of every 4 league goals. From an attacking perspective, that's a massive contribution. It's also worth pointing out that in Europe the other night we hit the bar twice from headers. Wallace crossing the ball in to Niko, and Tavernier crossing the ball in to Windass. Our attacking midfielders sadly failed to score but the important point is that chances were once again being created by the full-backs. I know most on here will heavily criticise these players for defensive frailty but isn't that as much to do with the weakness of our CBs and CDMs last year? With a strong pair of CBs, and more impressive CDMs coming in this year, I'm expecting to see a lot more from our two attacking full-backs. These two are more than capable performers in the SPFL and massively underrated by our support. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam1872 251 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 No point in contributing 5 goals if you are going to give away fucking 400. No thanks, though appreciate Wallaces general contribution to the club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,955 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 No. Wallace is pretty shit, and Tavernier gets enough credit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperPapac05 3,383 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 For every assist they usually conceded three. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewaj3 1,446 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Taking the piss op Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDavidCooper 2,505 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 I genuinely think that Tavanier is seriously underrated. Top player for me. Conversely, Lee Wallace is overrated and should be sold. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanoli 4,626 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 If anything Wallace is possibly the luckiest man in that squad. His loyalty to the club, and the distraction of Kiernan and Tavernier on the right side of defence the last two years have allowed him to et away with murder. He gets absolutely rinsed on a weekly basis, and i've never seen someone lose pace to the extent he has in the last 5 years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFM 3,809 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Tavernier is chronic and I cannot wait for Warburton to take him off our hands. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoorie 1,088 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 I would tentatively agree for the moment here, as we have not had a solid enough midfield in years. Rossiter and Dorrans could, and I say strongly, could, make a difference to how we use our wingbacks better. Wallace is not and has never been a good defender, neither has Tav. But what they do well, is pushing the opposition back. Attacking wing backs is not a new thing in the game, but those two might, just might, get a bit more protection from better sitting midfielders. I hope........ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaka 1,706 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 They're both major weaknesses in the team whenever they play. Both like to get forward and rarely contribute anything but massively offset by their unwillingness to get back and defend or inability to stop crosses coming in to the box. We need to sign better players for their positions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross-Gazza genius 1,923 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Both wing back areas are honking and the backups aren't the answer either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lloyd72 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 neither can defend and their crossings is abysmal, Tavs cross completion last year was 25% one of the worst in the league for his position. We need better fullbacks to have any chance of winning the league. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDavidCooper 2,505 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 6 minutes ago, Ross-Gazza genius said: Both wing back areas are honking and the backups aren't the answer either. What wing backs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danger ranger 922 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Wallace should never have been brought to Rangers, better players around him made him look better than he was, but that could be said about a lot of players, possibly the last five years in lower leagues have burned him out, opposed to playing along side good players who could carry him. He has to be thanked for staying when the rats deserted the sinking ship. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubie92 1,074 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 First someone posted that Windass played well the other night and could yet be an important player for us, and now Wallace & Tav are underrated? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie 12,905 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Surely both of their priorities is to defend. Have you got stats for how many times both were posted awol when we lost a goal. Tav did it twice in one game at tynecastle as I recall. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,808 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 I don't think either are as bad as people say they are but Wallace is no longer good enough for us to challenge Celtic and Tav is a decent player just too inconsistent. Wallace has two things going against him. Number 1 is he started out early with Hearts and was a first team regular since he was 17 - he's no longer got the pace he used to and he just looks tired all the time. Injuries and time have caught up with him. Number 2 is he screwed his career by staying with us. Four years of playing in lower divisions has turned him from being one of the top two left backs in Scotland to an average mid-table left back. He is also captain by default - when he is not captain material. Tav on the other hand is a decent right back but struggles from the fans perceptions that his first job is to defend. Which he struggles with positionally. However in the modern game a lot of the good full backs are quite poor defenders. The most frustrating thing about him is when he wants to he can land a ball on a 10p piece but he lacks concentration when delivering a ball and passing. There's enough potential ability there for him to push on and be the best right back in Scotland. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,232 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 They're both shite with Tav being slightly less shite then Wallace,the way we play and allowing the fullbacks to bomb forward they should have double the amount of assists,the amount of times they get it into good positions and cut it back to no cunt(Wallace especially) is a joke although it's entirely their fault as we've hardly ever got anycunt in the box Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoorie 1,088 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 41 minutes ago, McEwan's Lager said: I don't think either are as bad as people say they are but Wallace is no longer good enough for us to challenge Celtic and Tav is a decent player just too inconsistent. Wallace has two things going against him. Number 1 is he started out early with Hearts and was a first team regular since he was 17 - he's no longer got the pace he used to and he just looks tired all the time. Injuries and time have caught up with him. Number 2 is he screwed his career by staying with us. Four years of playing in lower divisions has turned him from being one of the top two left backs in Scotland to an average mid-table left back. He is also captain by default - when he is not captain material. Tav on the other hand is a decent right back but struggles from the fans perceptions that his first job is to defend. Which he struggles with positionally. However in the modern game a lot of the good full backs are quite poor defenders. The most frustrating thing about him is when he wants to he can land a ball on a 10p piece but he lacks concentration when delivering a ball and passing. There's enough potential ability there for him to push on and be the best right back in Scotland. Fishing now. Looking for another scapegoat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 18,677 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 2 hours ago, THE_MIGHTY_BEARS said: Lee Wallace created 5 goals, and Tavernier also created 5 goals So did Liam Polworth from Inverness who finished in the bottom half. Christ even Windass got 5 and they were all accidental. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,808 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Keeps01 said: Fishing now. Looking for another scapegoat. ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,115 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Plenty better full backs in the spfl. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronniescu 2,985 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 6 hours ago, danger ranger said: Wallace should never have been brought to Rangers, better players around him made him look better than he was, but that could be said about a lot of players, possibly the last five years in lower leagues have burned him out, opposed to playing along side good players who could carry him. He has to be thanked for staying when the rats deserted the sinking ship. Couldn't agree more. Said it many times. As far as the loyalty thing id concerned, we don't teally know if he had any concrete offers to go elsewhere. Unfortunately, he won't be getting any now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC16 226 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Both shite n vastly overated Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kris1984 1,299 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Fishing post surely but I'll bite anyway. Both are terrible defenders and average going forward. Would happily replace both. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.