Boybluesy 3,723 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Can't be at same level as the rest who've had a good seven games under their belt to get match fit although to be fair Herrera didn't look unfit when he's had game time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
centenarystand 2,227 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 57 minutes ago, Reformation Bear said: According to the manager in an article on the Club website today "Carlos is working hard so is Herrera. I know them very very well and I know that they are going to help us as a team and, of course, as individual players they are going to do very good in Scottish football. “We just need to know the exact moment to release them and give them the chance to do it. But they are really working hard and I think that they are at the same level as the others at the moment.” There we have it Pena and Herrera are at the same level as everyone else (whatever that means) and its just a case of deciding the exact moment to 'release' them into the full backwater furnace of Scottish football. Wonder what influences or circumstances will need to exist that cause the manager to conclude that the right time has arrived to play Pena. He's also nailing his managerial colours to the mast by declaring that both Pena and Hererra are 'going to do very good in Scottish football'. A sort of Portuguese 'trust me gov, I know what I'm selling you' sort of statement. No additional pressure on Pena and Hererra to deliver the goods to justify the manager's confidence in them. One day we'll find they are declared ready to play and we can all then start to see if the confidence in them is justified. Don't know when that day will be but presumably sometime soon otherwise the 'moment' in this league campaign will have passed, if its not already passed. I have this feeling that Robertson and Park were sold similar lines months ago and are now realising the consequences of placing their belief in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 Come on Pedro cry "Havoc!" and let slip the dogs of war... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 there's a lot of criticism for this guy, a lot of it unjust caused by frustration at other things, watching his YouTube and reading his interview whrn he signed it's clear the guy has some real quality about him but may have lost his way a little if he knuckles down we could have a right good player on our hands worth far more than what we paid for him ,it could however go tits up ,but it's far far to early to judge the guy iv a feeling there's a lot of bears willing him to fail so they can say they were right and he's a dud Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perth_Campsie_Ger 18,022 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Reformation Bear said: According to the manager in an article on the Club website today "Carlos is working hard so is Herrera. I know them very very well and I know that they are going to help us as a team and, of course, as individual players they are going to do very good in Scottish football. “We just need to know the exact moment to release them and give them the chance to do it. But they are really working hard and I think that they are at the same level as the others at the moment.” There we have it Pena and Herrera are at the same level as everyone else (whatever that means) and its just a case of deciding the exact moment to 'release' them into the full backwater furnace of Scottish football. Wonder what influences or circumstances will need to exist that cause the manager to conclude that the right time has arrived to play Pena. He's also nailing his managerial colours to the mast by declaring that both Pena and Hererra are 'going to do very good in Scottish football'. A sort of Portuguese 'trust me gov, I know what I'm selling you' sort of statement. No additional pressure on Pena and Hererra to deliver the goods to justify the manager's confidence in them. One day we'll find they are declared ready to play and we can all then start to see if the confidence in them is justified. Don't know when that day will be but presumably sometime soon otherwise the 'moment' in this league campaign will have passed, if its not already passed. https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/pedro-carlos-working-hard/ Give the club the hits mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reformation Bear 6,453 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 55 minutes ago, Perth_Campsie_Ger said: https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/pedro-carlos-working-hard/ Give the club the hits mate Yes, good point. The problem is I have no idea how to create that sort of link. I can do cut and paste of text but my skills of loading stuff up on to the internet are confined to photos exported to Lightroom for sending to professional printers. Sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersScotty9 255 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 9 hours ago, Mr Soprano said: Die aff mate. haha like fuck a will and most certainly not for a wee prick like you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoGeo7 10,557 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Lots of speculation doing the rounds but I'll reserve judgement until he actually gets a start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Band of Brothers 10,303 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 On 22/08/2017 at 2:11 PM, Potdog said: Pena will turn out a good signing just needs abit of time no point pedro throwing him in before he's ready. Its not Big Ben we are fixing he needs put on the park. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 2,992 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Part Of the problem is that Pedro has switched to a 442 instead of a 433 and there is no room for him. I think we should switch to a 352 most games. Allow Kranjcar and Pena to fit into to the system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Dangerously 7,562 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Band of Brothers said: Its not Big Ben we are fixing he needs put on the park. I like that avatar. You going to keep this one or change it every 5 minutes, ha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersScotty9 255 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, theiconicman said: Part Of the problem is that Pedro has switched to a 442 instead of a 433 and there is no room for him. I think we should switch to a 352 most games. Allow Kranjcar and Pena to fit into to the system. I don't think that is true, there is certainly room for him in the 4-4-2 as was stated by Pedro in the past on Peña that he is versatile, I can't remember if he said he can play out wide, but he did say he can play in the centre as a holding midfield player, attacking mid or even as that second striker. He showed from the little he played against Hibs that he is a box to box player and therefore he can certainly fit in, but I would prefer to see him play in a different formation, probably in a 5-3-2 formation such as: Foderingham Cardoso Alves Wilson Tavernier Wallace Jack Dorrans Peña Morelos Herrera Using Peña for me as the key as an attacking mid who can act as that 3rd striker in attack to link up between the 2 forward players, plus we know Peña against Hibs was very central and looked to support those around him, he looks like he'd be the playmaker and he can drop back and defend as that box to box player we've been missing. So for me I would prefer to see him in a formation such as this given that both Tav and Wallace offer their support in wider areas and when it comes to switching formation to 4-4-2 using our wingers Candeias and this new boy or Windass. If Peña is to play 4-4-2 then he would fit in best where Dorrans or even as the 2nd striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 2,992 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 13 minutes ago, RangersScotty9 said: I don't think that is true, there is certainly room for him in the 4-4-2 as was stated by Pedro in the past on Peña that he is versatile, I can't remember if he said he can play out wide, but he did say he can play in the centre as a holding midfield player, attacking mid or even as that second striker. He showed from the little he played against Hibs that he is a box to box player and therefore he can certainly fit in, but I would prefer to see him play in a different formation, probably in a 5-3-2 formation such as: Foderingham Cardoso Alves Wilson Tavernier Wallace Jack Dorrans Peña Morelos Herrera Using Peña for me as the key as an attacking mid who can act as that 3rd striker in attack to link up between the 2 forward players, plus we know Peña against Hibs was very central and looked to support those around him, he looks like he'd be the playmaker and he can drop back and defend as that box to box player we've been missing. So for me I would prefer to see him in a formation such as this given that both Tav and Wallace offer their support in wider areas and when it comes to switching formation to 4-4-2 using our wingers Candeias and this new boy or Windass. If Peña is to play 4-4-2 then he would fit in best where Dorrans or even as the 2nd striker. That's what I said....5-3-2, 3-5-2 same difference given how Wallace and Tav play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lloyd72 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/pedro-carlos-working-hard/ PEDRO CAIXINHA is waiting for the right time to ‘release’ Carlos Pena on Premiership opposition, having come close to putting the Mexican on during Saturday’s goalless draw with Hearts. 27-year-old Pena became the Gers boss’ seventh summer signing when he put pen-to-paper on three-year contract on June 22 and so far this season he has made one late substitute appearance against Hibs at Ibrox. The tenacious and creative midfielder, who has played for his country 19 times, has been working hard at the training ground and Caixinha is looking forward to seeing him in action. He said: “You know that sometimes when you organise the squad or the list of the players that go from one game, you look about at the options that you have on the bench in order to change the course of the game. “Because we just had two substitutions on the last game, we saw how the game was going and I really thought about Carlos Pena on the last 10 minutes, but I saw that the team was getting there and just making one chance so I don’t want to do it. Carlos is working hard so is Herrera. I know them very very well and I know that they are going to help us as a team and, of course, as individual players they are going to do very good in Scottish football. “We just need to know the exact moment to release them and give them the chance to do it. But they are really working hard and I think that they are at the same level as the others at the moment.” Speaking yesterday the manager admitted he had concerns about Josh Windass ahead of this weekend’s trip to Dingwall after the winger picked up a knock against Hearts on Saturday. The manager revealed: “I think for the moment we just have some concerns about Josh. We still don’t know if we can count on him or not because he felt something on the rib when he landed on the knee of the opponent. “So we need to know what is going on along the week. It is a long week but if there is something on the rib he maybe cannot be able to be with us. “All the rest of the players, they are available to be options for Ross County.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,154 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Boybluesy said: Can't be at same level as the rest who've had a good seven games under their belt to get match fit although to be fair Herrera didn't look unfit when he's had game time. Only person I've seen look less fit was James Beattie! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,154 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Band of Brothers said: Its not Big Ben we are fixing he needs put on the park. He'll be ok for Remembrance Sunday & New Year's Eve! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossorange 696 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, HG5 said: Only person I've seen look less fit was James Beattie! Now that was a flop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,154 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Just now, Bossorange said: Now that was a flop Not half mate!?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,612 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 9 pages of I was told this and that from some cousins mate's scag dealer. Piss poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,536 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Kranjcar should never start or play again for us unless we're about 3-0 up with 5 minutes to go. Absolute fucking liability the way he behaves on the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,924 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 59 minutes ago, HG5 said: Only person I've seen look less fit was James Beattie! I think it was his first game, got the ball on the halfway line heading towards goal, he nearly collapsed by the 18 yard line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,154 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 15 minutes ago, pcbear said: I think it was his first game, got the ball on the halfway line heading towards goal, he nearly collapsed by the 18 yard line. Well remembered - was it Killie? We used to sit roughly level with the goal line & he was headed towards us - we knew full well he wasn't going to make it!? Pity - was one of those times where a goal then might have made it happen for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,618 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Lloyd72 said: https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/pedro-carlos-working-hard/ PEDRO CAIXINHA is waiting for the right time to ‘release’ Carlos Pena on Premiership opposition, having come close to putting the Mexican on during Saturday’s goalless draw with Hearts. 27-year-old Pena became the Gers boss’ seventh summer signing when he put pen-to-paper on three-year contract on June 22 and so far this season he has made one late substitute appearance against Hibs at Ibrox. The tenacious and creative midfielder, who has played for his country 19 times, has been working hard at the training ground and Caixinha is looking forward to seeing him in action. He said: “You know that sometimes when you organise the squad or the list of the players that go from one game, you look about at the options that you have on the bench in order to change the course of the game. “Because we just had two substitutions on the last game, we saw how the game was going and I really thought about Carlos Pena on the last 10 minutes, but I saw that the team was getting there and just making one chance so I don’t want to do it. Carlos is working hard so is Herrera. I know them very very well and I know that they are going to help us as a team and, of course, as individual players they are going to do very good in Scottish football. “We just need to know the exact moment to release them and give them the chance to do it. But they are really working hard and I think that they are at the same level as the others at the moment.” Speaking yesterday the manager admitted he had concerns about Josh Windass ahead of this weekend’s trip to Dingwall after the winger picked up a knock against Hearts on Saturday. The manager revealed: “I think for the moment we just have some concerns about Josh. We still don’t know if we can count on him or not because he felt something on the rib when he landed on the knee of the opponent. “So we need to know what is going on along the week. It is a long week but if there is something on the rib he maybe cannot be able to be with us. “All the rest of the players, they are available to be options for Ross County.” Beyond me how he deemed him ready for Hibs but not Hearts, moron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lloyd72 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Beyond me how he deemed him ready for Hibs but not Hearts, moron. That's what I couldn't get my head around, guys out of his depth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueshoff 11,875 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Pena is being kept in a cage and fed once a week on raw meat. Being unleashed for the OF game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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