sassaaaa 11,406 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Just now, LochendBilly said: Get Miller to fuck, take Murty with him and tell him respect needs to be earned, it is not a given. Miller should have been gone long ago , under the last three managers he thought he was the boss. As for Murty its unbelievable this guy still has anything to do with the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Marky. said: Exactly, guys like McCulloch and even Greig Wylde on social media are tearing row team apart for the shambles we were shown on Sunday. If anything, I’m happy that Miller and Wallace said the same from within. Murty may demand respect the same way Caixinha and Warburton did, but they weren’t up to it either and they got what they had coming to them when the players started to see through them. With the exception of one or two, the shower of shite that we have as players would get PepG sacked. To many fucking upstarts seeing nice as being a weakness. A common mistake by fucking morons. None of it is about players seeing through anyone, it's all about dross being legends in their own fucking minds looking for a scapegoat for their own failings, so let's deflect and bully the nice guy. Get fucking real, apart from one or two, our players are fucking dross. Not their fault, they are what they are , but ffs be man enough to stand up and take responsibilty for their own failings. Not many players do, particularly the shite that plays in this backwater. The work place is not a democracy. Do what you are told or get to fuck. Thems the rules! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 66,074 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: I also doubt that alone would cause suspension in the football world. However if it was done in a confrontational, vindictive, aggressive, abusive or threatening way I'd imagine that was different. They should have been aggressive and confrontational tho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartypants 4,460 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Team news leaked the day before as well. Same two players Pedro had issue with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 54,412 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 This has happened under the past three managers we’ve had now. Maybe the board should take a long hard look at themselves and stop appointing people who this job is too big for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,709 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 They'll blame anybody for this embarrassing ongoing shambles from that bunker in SA, aye it's awe miller's and walllace's fault! I despair I really do! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 66,074 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Really worrying that the 2 people who 'get it' are being forced out for expressing this isn't good enough We've got a loser mentality and that starts at the very top Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 66,074 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, smartypants said: Team news leaked the day before as well. Same two players Pedro had issue with. Not defending the leaking of the team at all but the tarrier team was leaked as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NetherburnBear 173 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Captain Hilts said: Get rid of Miller, Wallace and Murty today. We certainly don't need an U20's coach dragging us down but we also could do without players continually undemining managers when things aren't going right. So would it be better if the players sat back and said nothing? Wallace is the club captain and should be standing up and telling it as it is, The dressing room is now obviously lost, Getting rid of Wallace and Miller for stating the truth, the tactics were all wrong the players on the park were spineless, players going for each other on the park, aye let's get shot of 2 players that care about our club and keep a under 20 coach who should have resigned on Monday morning after that display and by all accounts won't be here at the start of the season, by the way I'm not saying Miller or Wallace is good enough to play for us in the future but it's not them that should be shown the door. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 We complain about a lack of fight and passion on the pitch, then when two of our senior pros show it off the pitch we want them sacked. Mental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, BLUEDIGNITY said: They'll blame anybody for this embarrassing ongoing shambles from that bunker in SA, aye it's awe miller's and walllace's fault! I despair I really do! You do have a point. ALL this shite is engendered from the top. As I've said, standards have dropped so much we don't even have any integrity left. This board need to lead from the front, as these kind of incidents have happened far too often under their tenure. Dressing room bust ups are not knew, but it does appear this one, again I may add, has crossed the line for the board to intervene. Time this board actually took back control and started doing the right thing. Player power is one thing, but anarchy and disrespect are another, no matter who the manager is. We can but only hope that this is a catalyst for change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oz 37 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Sick of this shite...Not looking fwd to the last 5 games at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Good call. Passion my arse. Petulance and ego more like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmax1998 53 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Miller has brought our club into disrepute several times in the last two seasons and his wife’s behaviour was the last straw for me. He may have been part of winning Rangers teams but he is a mercenary bastard at the end of his career and he is looking out for himself. Wallace I would be less sure about, but player dissent cannot be tolerated at Rangers even towards sitting duck managers. If we allow Pedro and Murty to be undermined because they’re shite what happens if the new man suffers a poor spell where some primadonna isn’t playing? Also, I fail to see how this development sits with the Murty is a shitebag school. Sacking your most senior player and suspending your club captain may be wrong, or stupid even but it’s certainly bold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueboyG 5,318 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 The dressing room has been totally lost, our season is finished already, I honestly don't see us winning another game now as the players seem to have given up and now that Murty has been backed by the club I think the players are bewildered by what's gone on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Blue Avenger said: You do have a point. ALL this shite is engendered from the top. As I've said, standards have dropped so much we don't even have any integrity left. This board need to lead from the front, as these kind of incidents have happened far too often under their tenure. Dressing room bust ups are not knew, but it does appear this one, again I may add, has crossed the line for the board to intervene. Time this board actually took back control and started doing the right thing. Player power is one thing, but anarchy and disrespect are another, no matter who the manager is. We can but only hope that this is a catalyst for change. Nothing is changing , we all know that. The only reason any of those money grabbing shysters leave the club is when the fans stop buying season tickets and this next season its not happening. We have fans on here daily saying they are renewing then continually greet about how bad the board is . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,281 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 14 minutes ago, Goosetav said: They should have been aggressive and confrontational tho If / when you played fitba did that ever happen with players to a manager? What were the repercussions? Sounds like a bit of a mob mentality in there which for me results in / targets undermining the manager which I'm not surprised he'd have issue with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 66,074 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jmax1998 said: Miller has brought our club into disrepute several times in the last two seasons and his wife’s behaviour was the last straw for me. He may have been part of winning Rangers teams but he is a mercenary bastard at the end of his career and he is looking out for himself. Wallace I would be less sure about, but player dissent cannot be tolerated at Rangers even towards sitting duck managers. If we allow Pedro and Murty to be undermined because they’re shite what happens if the new man suffers a poor spell where some primadonna isn’t playing? Also, I fail to see how this development sits with the Murty is a shitebag school. Sacking your most senior player and suspending your club captain may be wrong, or stupid even but it’s certainly bold. It shows he's a coward with a fragile ego who can't take criticism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 The Captain and Vice Captain voice their displeasure and the player's displeasure to Murty, Murty runs away after a wee bubble to tell the Teacher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,709 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said: You do have a point. ALL this shite is engendered from the top. As I've said, standards have dropped so much we don't even have any integrity left. This board need to lead from the front, as these kind of incidents have happened far too often under their tenure. Dressing room bust ups are not knew, but it does appear this one, again I may add, has crossed the line for the board to intervene. Time this board actually took back control and started doing the right thing. Player power is one thing, but anarchy and disrespect are another, no matter who the manager is. We can but only hope that this is a catalyst for change. Nothing will change, money talks bullshit ends in second best ! This is just more blame game ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, NetherburnBear said: So would it be better if the players sat back and said nothing? Wallace is the club captain and should be standing up and telling it as it is, The dressing room is now obviously lost, Getting rid of Wallace and Miller for stating the truth, the tactics were all wrong the players on the park were spineless, players going for each other on the park, aye let's get shot of 2 players that care about our club and keep a under 20 coach who should have resigned on Monday morning after that display and by all accounts won't be here at the start of the season, by the way I'm not saying Miller or Wallace is good enough to play for us in the future but it's not them that should be shown the door. All three of them should be shown the door. They have all played their part in the absolute shit show we've witnessed this season and further beyond in the case of Miller and Wallace. I'm sick and embarrassed that all three of them are still employed by the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakbear 3,586 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jmax1998 said: Miller has brought our club into disrepute several times in the last two seasons and his wife’s behaviour was the last straw for me. He may have been part of winning Rangers teams but he is a mercenary bastard at the end of his career and he is looking out for himself. Wallace I would be less sure about, but player dissent cannot be tolerated at Rangers even towards sitting duck managers. If we allow Pedro and Murty to be undermined because they’re shite what happens if the new man suffers a poor spell where some primadonna isn’t playing? Also, I fail to see how this development sits with the Murty is a shitebag school. Sacking your most senior player and suspending your club captain may be wrong, or stupid even but it’s certainly bold. It’s fucking cowardly. If I am reading and hearing reports right it’s the board who have made the decision. So Murty has gone crying to the board and they have backed him. Man the fuck up and put your players in their place yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri's lovechild 14,418 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, sassaaaa said: Miller should have been gone long ago , under the last three managers he thought he was the boss. As for Murty its unbelievable this guy still has anything to do with the club. Sad that it's got to that point tbh. People talk about Walter returning and wouldn't want his reputation tarnished. That's exactly whats happened to Murty . Time to go now. It's the best thing for the club. Miller as well. I've never seen a more self obsessed man in my life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 66,074 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Just now, Sportingintegritymyarse said: If / when you played fitba did that ever happen with players to a manager? What were the repercussions? Sounds like a bit of a mob mentality in there which for me results in / targets undermining the manager which I'm not surprised he'd have issue with. Never played football apart from the school team so no. Not sure how going through a man who sent a team into a semi final against them and managed to motivate them to not try a leg is a mob mentality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 35,145 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Goosetav said: 2 players show a bit of passion and it leads to them being finished at the club, sums us up. Murty can get fucked, fucking shitebag, never thought I'd see the day I sided with Kenny Miller over him. Not really Murty’s fault. He’s been dropped in a situation way over his head, although I’ll be delighted when he’s gone. The players need to take some fucking responsibility for their actions. We haven’t beaten the filth in 10 games, and they absolutely half arsed it at the weekend. No one knows what’s gone on, but there’s a clear theme of players failing to deliver, undermining managers, and particularly in Miller’s case, going into business for yourself. We’d be better shot of senior players who contribute fuck all, and think they’re bigger than the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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