SeparateEntityMyArse 53,779 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 What about the sandcastles D'art? What about the bloody sandcastles??? ??? dougie76, terminator, BridgeIsBlue and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,812 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 8 hours ago, Loyaleastend said: Fuck reading all that, bottom line, please? You really should take the time to read it mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,812 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: What about the sandcastles D'art? What about the bloody sandcastles??? ??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Top class Dart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: What about the sandcastles D'art? What about the bloody sandcastles??? ??? Sand Lives Matter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC Eagle 4,888 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Courtyard Bear said: Sands Life Doesn't Matter. Fixed that for you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,779 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: Sand Lives Matter. Indeed. Think D'arts piece article was good, but reference to the sandcastles would have cemented it (pun intended). Joking aside, and getting thread back on track, my only complaint D'art is that articles like this only reinforce the need for you to write more regularly. Excellent job. Malkster and Courtyard Bear 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Just now, RFC Eagle said: Fixed that for you. Oh how very dare you Sir. Police Scotland, Nil By Mouth etc etc etc etc will be having words about your blatant sectarian disregard for the poor trod upon sand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: Indeed. Think D'arts piece article was good, but reference to the sandcastles would have cemented it (pun intended). Joking aside, and getting thread back on track, my only complaint D'art is that articles like this only reinforce the need for you to write more regularly. Excellent job. You tell him mate, the lazy bastard just sits on his thumbs these days. ? SeparateEntityMyArse and Malvern 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mandafen 9 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 TL:DR Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyaleastend 3,260 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Courtyard Bear said: Educate yourself and take the time to read it. ?? Nae bother chief Courtyard Bear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,779 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, mandafen said: TL:DR @gogzy @cushynumber @ben51 @admin Can we get this scum troll to fuck now? plumbGER, RFC Eagle, dougie76 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC Eagle 4,888 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: Oh how very dare you Sir. Police Scotland, Nil By Mouth etc etc etc etc will be having words about your blatant sectarian disregard for the poor trod upon sand. They can take a trip to England to find me and I'll point them in the direction they can take! Given their track record, the sands of time will run out long before Police Scotland get close to finding me and I have Nil to say to Nil by Mouth. Courtyard Bear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 31,008 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, RFC Eagle said: They can take a trip to England to find me and I'll point them in the direction they can take! Given their track record, the sands of time will run out long before Police Scotland get close to finding me and I have Nil to say to Nil by Mouth. They’ll never find you mate. They couldn’t find the sandcastle destroyers. RFC Eagle 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mandafen 9 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 22 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: @gogzy @cushynumber @ben51 @admin Can we get this scum troll to fuck now? jesus christ you are easily triggered eh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Courtyard Bear said: Educate yourself and take the time to read it. ?? You might need to help him by dictating to him with your Elmo voice from Sesame Street. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyaleastend 3,260 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Malvern said: You might need to help him by dictating to him with your Elmo voice from Sesame Street. That wasn't really funny, I just can't be arsed reading endless statements, I joined a football forum , not a fucking book club ya tit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mandafen 9 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 8 hours ago, Loyaleastend said: Fuck reading all that, bottom line, please? polis are cunts, polis are either wilfully mis managing games involving us or are just shit when it comes to protecting our fans at games. either way, bears need to have each others backs now more than ever Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyaleastend 3,260 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 1 minute ago, mandafen said: polis are cunts, polis are either wilfully mis managing games involving us or are just shit when it comes to protecting our fans at games. either way, bears need to have each others backs now more than ever Aye, you and I both know that, why do cunts have no sense of humour ? Fuck reading endless pish from bedroom authors. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mandafen 9 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Loyaleastend said: Aye, you and I both know that, why do cunts have no sense of humour ? Fuck reading endless pish from bedroom authors. its not staunch Loyaleastend 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,779 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, mandafen said: jesus christ you are easily triggered eh. You are a troll, likely scum, and have so far offered fuck all positive contribution to the forum. Your response to a post liked by over 30 posters written by arguably one of the most respected and erudite bears amongst our overall support sums you up- too long didn't read. So yeah, whether or not a scum fan you have clearly joined purely to troll. With a bit of luck you'll not even be on here long enough to read this post. If not today, your time will come (feel more at home with that line perhaps?) BridgeIsBlue and The New Era 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 18 minutes ago, Malvern said: You might need to help him by dictating to him with your Elmo voice from Sesame Street. Touch harsh ?? I know sometimes I look at an article and go fuck that it’s too long. But D’art is worth reading especially as I’m sure he used to be in the Police Force. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 9 hours ago, D'Artagnan said: Rangers fans could be forgiven their wry smiles on hearing the motto of the Scottish Police Service, Semper Vigilo – Always Vigilant. One could point to the massive banners depicting them as “H** Scum”, somehow smuggled past the “vigilant” officers or perhaps the inflatable effigies which were then hung from the rafters of celtic Park, an action which again managed to escape the gaze of Scotland’s finest. Meanwhile Northern Irish Rangers supporters, carrying the flag of their country, find them being seized by Police Officers as they attempt to enter Ibrox, on the pretext of them being “sectarian”. The fact that the latter has happened on more than one occasion, accompanied by a subsequent apology from Police Scotland, suggests someone, somewhere is not paying attention. The job of the Police is difficult and challenging, particularly at football matches, exacerbated by a recent increase in whataboutery and individuals being faux offended, much of which is played out across social media platforms. Warwick University, WBS Research Projects offers the following explanation on Public Confidence: “For any police force to be effective in safeguarding the public, retaining public confidence is critical. This is because the public are a key source of information, and their trust and cooperation are often key to law enforcement.” But that trust has to be earned and two significant incidents which pertain to public safety, and which rise above the simply annoying or exasperating examples cited in the opening paragraph, have significantly eroded the confidence and trust of Rangers supporters with regard to Police Scotland. The aftermath of the 2016 William Hill Scottish Cup Final still rankles with many Rangers supporters. As someone who was there, and who witnessed first hand the events which unfolded, I sill find it particularly difficult, that 30 seconds after the final whistle standing in the traditional Rangers end at Hampden, I was faced with a Hibs fan standing not 50 yards from me in the six yard box challenging and goading myself and other Rangers supporters to fight. This individual’s course of conduct had nothing to do with joy, celebration nor overexuberance and any attempts to explain it or rationalise it as such are quite simply erroneous. But its events off the pitch which served to undermine confidence in the Police. As Rangers supporters raised questions about the preparation, speed and deployment strategy of the Police, they found themselves in the eye of a storm as accusations were levelled that Rangers fans had used their own children as barricades to hinder and impede officers reacting to the ongoing situation at Hampden. The author of the story, Jane Hamilton from the Scottish Daily Record, appeared to receive corroborative assistance from Callum Steele of the Scottish Police Federation, who tweeted that this version of events was consistent with reports he had received from officers on duty that day. The Independent Press Standard Organisation (IPSO) ruling following a complaint regarding the story can be read in full here: https://www.ipso.co.uk/rulings-and-resolution-statements/ruling/?id=03188-16 Both Jane Hamilton and Callum Steele remain in post. The SFA ordered an independent Commission into the disorder which was chaired by Sheriff Principal Edward F Bowen CBE QC. Regretfully, I am unable to guide you to an unabridged version of his findings, as the SFA, for reasons best known to themselves, have decided to no longer promulgate his report. https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/resources/documents/documents/scottishcupfinal2016report/scottish cup final 2016 commission of enquiry - report of sp bowen.pdf Since publication, Rangers have contested the findings of the report and official statements from the club reflected that. "We can state however that we will be seeking an urgent meeting with the author of the report, Sheriff Principal Edward Bowen, the Scottish FA’s Chief Executive Stewart Regan and his Compliance Officer, Tony McGlennan. It is imperative that we gain insight into the underlying basis for the findings in the report given that we consider it contains a number of factual inaccuracies and contradictions. It is right that the club gives the author and requisitioner of the report the opportunity to comment on our concerns prior to making a conclusive statement.” Such concerns were not without foundation. Although not widely reported by the press, who focussed on the report’s main findings namely: · Police and steward numbers were appropriate · Neither club to blame for crowd trouble · Call for debate on criminalising pitch invasions · Physical interaction between players and fans to be discouraged · Retractable tunnel could improve player safety · Pitch invasion sparked by Hibs fans' high excitement · Overwhelming majority of Rangers fans behaved properly there was also remarks in the report regarding intelligence prior to the match itself. In the absence of the complete report I will refer to this exert from the Edinburgh Evening News dated 5th August, 2016. https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/report-concludes-hampden-pitch-invasion-down-to-high-excitement-1-4195707 In particular, I would draw your attention to this paragraph: “Mr Bowen said he was satisfied both clubs and the Scottish Football Association took reasonable precautions to minimise the possibility of a pitch invasion. He concluded there was no evidence to suggest the pitch invasion was planned, that the Hibs support had not been infiltrated by individuals holding some form of malicious intent, and that while some supporters were affected by alcohol, both male and female, that hadn’t played a significant part in what happened.” On the Monday following the Cup Final, BBC Radio Scotland hastily scheduled a phone in hosted by Kaye Adams, to discuss the events and the aftermath. It consisted of both Hibs and Rangers fans phoning in to offer their own versions on events. I mention this programme because some of the Hibs supporters phoning in made reference to the fact it was all over social media, that in the event of a Hibs victory there would be a pitch invasion. Given the vast galaxy which is social media it is not unreasonable to accept that those responsible for either Policing pre-match intelligence may have missed this, but for the subsequent investigation and report into the aftermath to either miss or totally discount testimony which has been aired by the country’s national publicly funded broadcaster? Rangers supporters are more than familiar with the failings and selective nature of “low-level intelligence gathering” Fast forwarding to last week and the reputation and confidence in Police Scotland suffered further erosion following the Rangers vs Osijek tie at Ibrox, which was marred by violent disorder prior to the match. Concerningly for Police Scotland, criticism of policing arrangements came not only from Rangers supporters but also from Paul Goodwin, former head of Supporters Direct and co-founder of the Scottish Football Supporters Association, who accused the Police of being blindsided and failing to take into account the violent reputation of Croatian fans. http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/16398308.police-scotland-deemed-Rangers-match-which-saw-two-stabbed-to-be-low-risk/ Whilst I appreciate I do not have access to the resources, expertise and research facilities of analysts at Police Scotland, my somewhat crude google searches tend to suggest Mr Goodwin may have a point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6dKP4tpzNU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR7WATnpigY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r9DAclKcGY It is perhaps worthy of note that the violence involving Osijek fans in Switzerland was only last year, which makes Chief Inspector Bowater’s assertion that there was “no intelligence” to suggest extra policing was required, particularly difficult to fathom. Warwick University Research Projects, previously mentioned, goes further in its examination of Public Confidence in the Police, citing the various array of measurements used by the Police to gauge and determine such confidence, including customer satisfaction surveys. Of course in order to ensure favourable feedback, Police Scotland could tailor their customer satisfaction phone calls to 3pm every other Saturday when Rangers supporters are likely to be elsewhere, or alternatively, they could afford Rangers supporters the same level of commitment, transparency, protection and treatment which everyone in Scotland is entitled to expect from them. My BP has just went up 20 points, again! If the ptejudice was only restricted to policing. The series of events related to us, is it just Incompetence or the tools of a political agenda being brought into play or most probably both for me. Can someone show me that PS are not working to the political agenda of SNPira and where does it all end? We have little enough voice. Ignored and demonised, no matter the evidence in our favour. We go full indy and the republic of Scotland won't be worth living in. Budswiser 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budswiser 196 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Great piece D,art. The method in which P.S. deal with matters concerning Rangers and their support will not change any time soon. We have no one in the corridors of power to stand our corner. The police are just an extension of the Scottish government who, lets be frank hate our ideals and even existence. There will never be a level playing field whilst they are in power. We are easy prey and they know it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 14 minutes ago, Loyaleastend said: Aye, you and I both know that, why do cunts have no sense of humour ? Fuck reading endless pish from bedroom authors. Cmon mate we are supposed to be the dour staunch Protestants that never laugh at anything. ? Loyaleastend 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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