born a blue nose 90,829 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 You shouldn't throw stones if you live in a glass house And if you got a glass jaw, you should watch your mouth A.T.G 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertN 390 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 BBC news just now lead story Rangers Supporters banned again wee side story after showing celtic fans with flares fighting riot police in the stand Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle 53,615 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 minute ago, RobertN said: BBC news just now lead story Rangers Supporters banned again wee side story after showing celtic fans with flares fighting riot police in the stand “What appeared to be cellic fans” fkn trolls Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willis 20,919 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 2 hours ago, The Dude said: Then why haven't they moved in line with UEFA at any point in the last 15 years or so they've used strict liability(which is what this is)? I dont know, but I can see them doing so now. Especially now that the ridiculous OBAF act has scrapped Also because I think theyll do all they can to prevent us winning the league Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger_onimo 20,488 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, The Dude said: UEFA taking their lead from relevant domestic bodies. Given the UK justice system finds fenian to be a sectarian term, then there is little wiggle room. Singing about proscribed organisations tends to come under 'illicit' chants Thanks. It all seems incredibly subjective and open to interpretation. How much proof is actually required for a club to be punished? Robmc1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Ger_onimo said: Thanks. It all seems incredibly subjective and open to interpretation. How much proof is actually required for a club to be punished? Quite a bit needed (generally video plus 'expert' witnesses if needed) . If clubs feel a charge is ridiculous they can take it to CAS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabc10000 5,061 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 3 hours ago, TMB said: Of the 42 clubs across all divisions of the SPFL only 3 voted in favour of strict liability. There is no strict liability in Scottish football. The clubs can’t be held accountable for the actions of the fans. In Europe it’s completely different. Just realised I had worded my post wrong and meant what u said Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,923 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 On 29/08/2019 at 16:24, Blue Avenger said: I wholeheartedly agree, but the Club need to lead on it. I've got serious reservations as to what that Traynor is all about. They kill us with lies, half truths and innuendo, yet we could kill them with the whole truth and yet we don't. Our board's passive role in all this, just doesn't add up for me. When Traynor was a journo he ripped us, when he got a gig at Ibrox I thought he will be tearing into anyone and everyone who as much as looked at us the wrong way. I was miles out with that as we got a mouse. Kaydubya11 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, pcbear said: When Traynor was a journo he ripped us, when he got a gig at Ibrox I thought he will be tearing into anyone and everyone who as much as looked at us the wrong way. I was miles out with that as we got a mouse. I've said it since day one. Traynor's only interest is to settle old scores with certain former colleagues. eejay the dj 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 On 29/08/2019 at 16:24, Blue Avenger said: I wholeheartedly agree, but the Club need to lead on it. I've got serious reservations as to what that Traynor is all about. They kill us with lies, half truths and innuendo, yet we could kill them with the whole truth and yet we don't. Our board's passive role in all this, just doesn't add up for me. Stop stealing my patter you Blue Avenger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ibrox Derry 8,905 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Forget our Papist enemies. Here's the real problem.... .. ... Passive Protestantism. The scourge of this country for many many decades. We are where we are today because of this, and this alone. BlanketOfBlue, Bad Robot, Blumhoilann and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,923 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 28 minutes ago, The Dude said: I've said it since day one. Traynor's only interest is to settle old scores with certain former colleagues. So who are they and what has he done? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 15 hours ago, pcbear said: So who are they and what has he done? Keith Jackson(among others) . Traynor believes he forced him out of the Record. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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