World Cup Qualifying

[scottyscott1963 19,134]

they dropped down the wc table pretty fast.
actually hope that bunch of trannies never get to another tournamnet again,to save embarassing themselves with that shite ditty no scotland no party. 

[superallysbears 8,189]

2 hours ago, Cedrick said:

Unpopular opinion no doubt but I’m no having billy Gilmore at all , get it off the centre half give to the full back , get it back off full back give it back to the centre half 

Scum played like that on Sunday 👍

[Cedrick 8,048]

8 hours ago, HG5 said:

Seemed very much that way first half, but showed a lot more energy and forward drive in the second half - ‘came onto a game’ as they say.

He epitomises the coached modern day CM ,neat and tidy , I’m still old school and want a CM to go influence the game positively , he won MOTM against England and didn’t tackle anyone , go past anyone , create a chance or have a shot at goal 

[Essandoh 21,839]

33 minutes ago, Cedrick said:

He epitomises the coached modern day CM ,neat and tidy , I’m still old school and want a CM to go influence the game positively , he won MOTM against England and didn’t tackle anyone , go past anyone , create a chance or have a shot at goal 

It’s almost as if he’s not meant to do that job and the players alongside him are.

[HG5 12,199]

1 hour ago, Cedrick said:

He epitomises the coached modern day CM ,neat and tidy , I’m still old school and want a CM to go influence the game positively , he won MOTM against England and didn’t tackle anyone , go past anyone , create a chance or have a shot at goal 

Yup.

I’d put John Fleck in that category, too.

I’d even add Glen Kamara - same sort of tidy, probably puts in more tackles, but not as much impact in goals or assists as there should be.

Gilmour may well develop.

If you think back to a young Barry Ferguson, he didn’t have a lot of ‘productivity’ in his early days, but was frequently the last man to have the ball before the player who set up a goal.

The rest came later.

 

[HG5 12,199]

1 hour ago, Essandoh said:

It’s almost as if he’s not meant to do that job and the players alongside him are.

Good call - there are plenty in here who will say ‘that’s not x player’s job’.

Think where we’d have been without the back 4’s attacking contributions last year.

Back to yesterday, I thought Gilmour was far more aggressive in the second half, won tackles, shook off big hits & actually got a bit of link up with Frazer.

Looked a bit more like what he’s supposed to be.

[.Williamson. 87,176]

Will watch NI later. Making an effort to care about them again since I don’t hate Davis anymore 

[The Specky Forum Organiser 69,505]

3 hours ago, Cedrick said:

He epitomises the coached modern day CM ,neat and tidy , I’m still old school and want a CM to go influence the game positively , he won MOTM against England and didn’t tackle anyone , go past anyone , create a chance or have a shot at goal 

Your thoughts on Steven Davis?

[Cedrick 8,048]

4 minutes ago, The Specky Liar said:

Your thoughts on Steven Davis?

First time round out and out attacking midfielder, this spell sits deeper still plenty of positive and attacking play, only need to look at as recent as Sunday robbed soro drove in and played Sakala in for a shot at goal 

[The Specky Forum Organiser 69,505]

Just now, Cedrick said:

First time round out and out attacking midfielder, this spell sits deeper still plenty of positive and attacking play, only need to look at as recent as Sunday robbed soro drove in and played Sakala in for a shot at goal 

He gets on the ball deep and passes it. Very rarely shoots, tackles or beats a man. Very similar to Gilmour.

[Cedrick 8,048]

7 minutes ago, The Specky Liar said:

Your thoughts on Steven Davis?

If you want to compare players Ryan Jack pre Gerrard is a closer comparison to Gilmore 👍🏻

[The Specky Forum Organiser 69,505]

Just now, Cedrick said:

If you want to compare players Ryan Jack pre Gerrard is a closer comparison to Gilmore 👍🏻

 

[Cedrick 8,048]

1 minute ago, The Specky Liar said:

He gets on the ball deep and passes it. Very rarely shoots, tackles or beats a man. Very similar to Gilmour.

Aye they’re the same 😂deary me 

[HG5 12,199]

1 minute ago, Cedrick said:

First time round out and out attacking midfielder, this spell sits deeper still plenty of positive and attacking play, only need to look at as recent as Sunday robbed soro drove in and played Sakala in for a shot at goal 

That was great, but could he do more of that?

Must say, he quite often comes up with something like that very late in a game - don’t know if he’s pacing himself, or what?

He seems to become prominent when his other midfield colleagues have shut up shop for the day.

[Cedrick 8,048]

2 minutes ago, HG5 said:

That was great, but could he do more of that?

Must say, he quite often comes up with something like that very late in a game - don’t know if he’s pacing himself, or what?

He seems to become prominent when his other midfield colleagues have shut up shop for the day.

If he’s still got the legs I’d play him in his old roll without a doubt mate I’m assuming he’s gon back 15/20 yards due to his age 

[Johnsey 1,540]

So far the only argument I've seen people have in Clarke's favour is "and replace him with who?" 

Let's keep someone in charge because we haven't identified the perfect person to take over. That's why you have interviews, plenty of managers will be interested in that position and they don't have to be Scottish. 

Vogts is shat on in the media but he had to rebuild an ageing squad and was trying to find good young players. Clarke just goes with his favourites. Gilmour probably got in too late, persisting with O'Donnell when he's not good enough and not the long term solution, not even giving Gauld a call up for a friendly, constantly picking Ryan Fraser who has been shit for years. 

I think it's time for Tierney/Robertson in the same team tactic to end. We shift the whole team around to fit them both in. 

Once Austria end our hopes next week, we may as well give the next generation a go. 

[The Specky Forum Organiser 69,505]

5 minutes ago, Cedrick said:

Aye they’re the same 😂deary me 

Both sit deep and get on the ball, don't dribble, crunch into tackles or shoot very often. Don't know what you're disagreeing with tbh.

[Cedrick 8,048]

6 minutes ago, The Specky Liar said:

Both sit deep and get on the ball, don't dribble, crunch into tackles or shoot very often. Don't know what you're disagreeing with tbh.

Davis is positive, Gilmore doesn’t even contemplate it , Davis does win his fair share of tackles to , as I said if you wanted a current player to compare , a  Pedro murty Ryan Jack is the one , all he did was pass it between a full back and centre half till Gerrard came in, now he’s far more positive 

[Dickie 12,906]

2 hours ago, Johnsey said:

So far the only argument I've seen people have in Clarke's favour is "and replace him with who?" 

Let's keep someone in charge because we haven't identified the perfect person to take over. That's why you have interviews, plenty of managers will be interested in that position and they don't have to be Scottish. 

Vogts is shat on in the media but he had to rebuild an ageing squad and was trying to find good young players. Clarke just goes with his favourites. Gilmour probably got in too late, persisting with O'Donnell when he's not good enough and not the long term solution, not even giving Gauld a call up for a friendly, constantly picking Ryan Fraser who has been shit for years. 

I think it's time for Tierney/Robertson in the same team tactic to end. We shift the whole team around to fit them both in. 

Once Austria end our hopes next week, we may as well give the next generation a go. 

Surely there must be an other Aussie genius they could replace torn faced Clarke with,angeball 2.

[ElBufalo20 8,158]

Helander starts tonight v Spain on Sky Sports Premier league 

[.Williamson. 87,176]

Neil Lennon in the studio for NI games is always something 

[McEwan's Lager 32,047]

4 minutes ago, .Williamson. said:

Neil Lennon in the studio for NI games is always something 

Must win game tonight I'd think.

[.Williamson. 87,176]

23 minutes ago, McEwan's Lager said:

Must win game tonight I'd think.

Bulgaria at home was very much a must win game aswell. Side lacks a goal scorer 

[Prso's headband 36,751]

ITV constantly cutting to a selection of random players everytime the ball goes out is annoying. 

[.Williamson. 87,176]

Millwall putting us 1 up