Philippe Clement views amongst the support post-Kilmarnock

[JackAlex93 12,869]

Same predicament every fucking season

[cr3_bear 15,629]

2 hours ago, The Ibrox Derry said:

GvB, Beale and Clement all started their tenure well with some great results and consistent wins. All started to fail at the business end of their respective seasons, and continued this into the following seasons campaigns.

Gio I feel was slightly different . He fucked the league post winter break in his first season but actually finished the season strongly with a run to a European final , beating Celtic at Hampden and then going on to win the Scottish cup. Was ultimately too little to late to salvage the title though and we also put in a really good performance at parkhead post split and in second half probably deserved to win the game and were a sakala shot off the post from doing so and probably take the title to the final day if that happens

The following season we started off fairly consistent but not overly inspiring bar a draw at Easter road where collum made a total cunt of sending Lundstrum off and qualified for the champions league. It was the parkhead 4-0 and the manner of it that completely derailed that season , didn't even have time to recover or regroup from it before another tanking was on the cards in the champjons league every other fortnight. Paired with injuries and his tactics then became even more cautious and predictable as the run went on confidence was in total tatters

[Trooblue 2,036]

2 hours ago, The Ibrox Derry said:

GvB, Beale and Clement all started their tenure well with some great results and consistent wins. All started to fail at the business end of their respective seasons, and continued this into the following seasons campaigns.

The main difference has been that Clement started to carry out the long-delayed clear out of the old guard, albeit making the big mistake of leaving Tavernier in place. Recruitment under all three managers was poor, overall, and this indicates a more general problem within the club.

[MoroccanGer 0]

17 hours ago, DrLaudrup said:

It’s clear there are massive issues with Clement but the board needs sorting first. I no longer trust the current incumbents to make correct decisions, and the recent idiotic extension for Clement bears that out. Who is going to fire and hire? We’ve been looking for key positions for months now with zero movement. We have no idea about finances or long-term strategy. The whole thing is a shambles. There is absolutely no direction or standards being set whatsoever. We are just aimless and far off being a well run operation. So while I’m unhappy with Clement and a change may give a bounce I see us being in the same situation unless more definitive changes are made. 

Exaclty , PC is one of the main problems of the club at the moment , but for me i blame the board , no vision , no project , no planning , just running things in the most random and incompetent way possible , apart from selling players only to bring in some less quality players and with a manager like PC who doesn't have the right mentality to manage a big team like Rangers , the result of all this is these poor , sad and soulless  performances on the pitch.

[johanhentze 14,826]

Lets be honest.. its shite. But when people go on about 4231 being shite? Just watched Liverpool play Chelsea yesterday and they both played the formation. Its not the formation.. its the tactics and instructions withing that. The formation is only a starting point. 

[theblueoysterbar 20,312]

Philippe Flop.

[kelvd1873 7,701]

I’ve had time to think over PC since sunday and it’s clear to me he has to go. We have not progressed at all under him and we don’t look like we will anytime soon. 

The football is toothless, turgid and predictable. Long hopeless balls over the top and absolutely no authority stamped on the final 3rd of the field.

I do not know why he sticks to this fucking formation as it clearly leaves us lacking in all departments. 

It’s time to bring in an all attacking manager who doesn’t give a fuck. PC is done
 

 

 

[kelvd1873 7,701]

8 hours ago, STEPPS BOY said:

Mcinnes said it after game. Pack centre, force Rangers out wide, try get them to cross into box and confident they’d defend it.

I can remember noticing that clearly when Aberdeen beat us in cup semi final at Hampden.

He’s now done that to 4 Rangers managers.

It’s all in this shite formation we play. Stick 2 up top and have your 4 in midfield rotating around the ball to drag the other team about and it will create the gaps needed.

[Real Ranger 3,231]

9 hours ago, BlueSuedeSambas said:

What’s he showing you that makes you think he deserves time?

Genuine question BTW because it has to be a two way thing. You can’t just give somebody time in the hope that it miraculously turns around, they have to show you glimmers and we have done nothing but go backwards since March.

This is why I believe he deserves more time. He’s proved he can win trophies including league titles.
His first 7 months were far from a disaster, ultimately we blew the league but he got us into a league winning position with only 6 games remaining, no one would have predicted that just before he arrived, he also took us into the knockout stages of the Europa league beating a Spanish team away from home for the first time in our history and also won the league cup. A mixed bag but certainly not a failure. 
The squad is undoubtedly weaker this season and it’s evident, but that’s what happens when you lose players for nothing and don’t then provide the manager with the funds not only to replace them but to strengthen the squad. On top of that we couldn’t even start the season playing at Ibrox.
Any manager would struggle here under those circumstances. The lack of investment is the number one concern for me and that’s down to the board. The entire situation is grim.
Maybe the answer is to pay him and his staff off, replace them with another management team and hope they perform a minor miracle with next to no funding. 

Were the board right to sack Gio or in hindsight would they have been better giving him funds and more time?

[RM Monitor And Standards Officer 112,989]

15 minutes ago, Real Ranger said:

This is why I believe he deserves more time. He’s proved he can win trophies including league titles.
His first 7 months were far from a disaster, ultimately we blew the league but he got us into a league winning position with only 6 games remaining, no one would have predicted that just before he arrived, he also took us into the knockout stages of the Europa league beating a Spanish team away from home for the first time in our history and also won the league cup. A mixed bag but certainly not a failure. 
The squad is undoubtedly weaker this season and it’s evident, but that’s what happens when you lose players for nothing and don’t then provide the manager with the funds not only to replace them but to strengthen the squad. On top of that we couldn’t even start the season playing at Ibrox.
Any manager would struggle here under those circumstances. The lack of investment is the number one concern for me and that’s down to the board. The entire situation is grim.
Maybe the answer is to pay him and his staff off, replace them with another management team and hope they perform a minor miracle with next to no funding. 

Were the board right to sack Gio or in hindsight would they have been better giving him funds and more time?

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[demise 3,720]

36 minutes ago, Real Ranger said:

This is why I believe he deserves more time. He’s proved he can win trophies including league titles.
His first 7 months were far from a disaster, ultimately we blew the league but he got us into a league winning position with only 6 games remaining, no one would have predicted that just before he arrived, he also took us into the knockout stages of the Europa league beating a Spanish team away from home for the first time in our history and also won the league cup. A mixed bag but certainly not a failure. 
The squad is undoubtedly weaker this season and it’s evident, but that’s what happens when you lose players for nothing and don’t then provide the manager with the funds not only to replace them but to strengthen the squad. On top of that we couldn’t even start the season playing at Ibrox.
Any manager would struggle here under those circumstances. The lack of investment is the number one concern for me and that’s down to the board. The entire situation is grim.
Maybe the answer is to pay him and his staff off, replace them with another management team and hope they perform a minor miracle with next to no funding. 

Were the board right to sack Gio or in hindsight would they have been better giving him funds and more time?

Mate he tried to justify a 0-3 loss at scum saying we had the same amount of shots on target. THAT is his level, unfortunately. 

[JackAlex93 12,869]

28 minutes ago, demise said:

Mate he tried to justify a 0-3 loss at scum saying we had the same amount of shots on target. THAT is his level, unfortunately. 

He also tried to justify another pumping off Celtic by saying we'd beat Ross County 6-0 the previous game before that

[Real Ranger 3,231]

3 minutes ago, demise said:

Mate he tried to justify a 0-3 loss at scum saying we had the same amount of shots on target. THAT is his level, unfortunately. 

He tried to come out with positives when there was none, same as most managers do including the best of them.

We’ve been there when it comes to sacking managers after a short period of time in charge, Beale I agreed with and Gio I didn’t. I saw enough last season to believe with financial backing Clement can deliver success but the board have failed to back him and as a result the squad has only been weakened.

Who’s his replacement?
 

 

[RM Monitor And Standards Officer 112,989]

4 minutes ago, Real Ranger said:

He tried to come out with positives when there was none, same as most managers do including the best of them.

We’ve been there when it comes to sacking managers after a short period of time in charge, Beale I agreed with and Gio I didn’t. I saw enough last season to believe with financial backing Clement can deliver success but the board have failed to back him and as a result the squad has only been weakened.

Who’s his replacement?
 

 

He's spent nearly 10 million on bajrami, diomande and propper. 2 of them seem absolutely shite and bajrami seems a luxury we can't afford.

This team he has built Re a shambles, we have no game plan and absolutely fuck all style except from chronic.

1 away goal in 4 games, overrun in midfield by every team we've played. Concede the same chances game after game. Barely won away from home since march.

Apparently the collapse was the fault of Lundstrum etc. they're now gone and now it's the board.

With the money spent he has an excuse for losing to the taigs but not struggling to beat every other team in the league.

I think we've scored 12 goals and 6 of them were in the one game v Ross county.

It's absolutely fucking shambolic 

 

[Real Ranger 3,231]

It’s amazing how many of our supporters believed if Clement had been given the funds to sign Lawrence Shankland he’d have delivered the league. Now the same fans label him as clueless. 

[Real Ranger 3,231]

1 minute ago, RM Monitor And Standards Officer said:

He's spent nearly 10 million on bajrami, diomande and propper. 2 of them seem absolutely shite and bajrami seems a luxury we can't afford.

This team he has built Re a shambles, we have no game plan and absolutely fuck all style except from chronic.

1 away goal in 4 games, overrun in midfield by every team we've played. Concede the same chances game after game. Barely won away from home since march.

Apparently the collapse was the fault of Lundstrum etc. they're now gone and now it's the board.

With the money spent he has an excuse for losing to the taigs but not struggling to beat every other team in the league.

I think we've scored 12 goals and 6 of them were in the one game v Ross county.

It's absolutely fucking shambolic 

 

 

[crmpicco 153]

Personally I think he'll be here until the LCF defeat to them which will be one OF defeat too many for some of the support and he'll be gone around Christmas.

It really is inevitable at this point, it's just a case of when.

[Real Ranger 3,231]

2 minutes ago, RM Monitor And Standards Officer said:

He's spent nearly 10 million on bajrami, diomande and propper. 2 of them seem absolutely shite and bajrami seems a luxury we can't afford.

This team he has built Re a shambles, we have no game plan and absolutely fuck all style except from chronic.

1 away goal in 4 games, overrun in midfield by every team we've played. Concede the same chances game after game. Barely won away from home since march.

Apparently the collapse was the fault of Lundstrum etc. they're now gone and now it's the board.

With the money spent he has an excuse for losing to the taigs but not struggling to beat every other team in the league.

I think we've scored 12 goals and 6 of them were in the one game v Ross county.

It's absolutely fucking shambolic 

 

The money Clement’s been given would buy a bench warmer for an average EPL team, celtic spent 11 million on one player and 6 million on another who only plays when another is injured. 
I’m not arguing that we’ve been shite, I just don’t see the point in sacking him when he’s had to deal with losing the players he has and not been given anywhere enough funds to replace them never mind making us stronger.

 

[RM Monitor And Standards Officer 112,989]

3 minutes ago, Real Ranger said:

The money Clement’s been given would buy a bench warmer for an average EPL team, celtic spent 11 million on one player and 6 million on another who only plays when another is injured. 
I’m not arguing that we’ve been shite, I just don’t see the point in sacking him when he’s had to deal with losing the players he has and not been given anywhere enough funds to replace them never mind making us stronger.

 

We were told the players he was losing were the cause of the collapse. Now this season has started how last season ended. We are fucking terrible. 

Couldn't give a fuck about the EPL, Rangers should not have won 2 away games since March, we are sitting with 1 away goal. We spent nearly 2 million on a Moroccan who wasn't even fit enough to train with the first team when he was signed.

Killie are another in a long line of teams who can over run us in the middle of the park because he's got the tactical nous of a disabled chipmunk.

We are absolutely fucking terrible and it's down to him 

[Real Ranger 3,231]

1 minute ago, RM Monitor And Standards Officer said:

We were told the players he was losing were the cause of the collapse. Now this season has started how last season ended. We are fucking terrible. 

Couldn't give a fuck about the EPL, Rangers should not have won 2 away games since March, we are sitting with 1 away goal. We spent nearly 2 million on a Moroccan who wasn't even fit enough to train with the first team when he was signed.

Killie are another in a long line of teams who can over run us in the middle of the park because he's got the tactical nous of a disabled chipmunk.

We are absolutely fucking terrible and it's down to him 

He inherited a team most had completely written off, almost won the league with them and as many of our fans believed were one signing away from winning it under his guidance. 

Off the park the club’s a shambles, the youth set up has been an abject failure for as long as I can remember and the player trading model is an embarrassment. 
 

Again not arguing with how bad we’ve been but have to take everything into account and sacking Clement at this stage of the season won’t solve anything unless there’s someone out there available who can perform a minor miracle. If the past is anything to go by it’ll only cost money we can’t afford.

[Trooblue 2,036]

2 hours ago, Real Ranger said:

This is why I believe he deserves more time. He’s proved he can win trophies including league titles.
His first 7 months were far from a disaster, ultimately we blew the league but he got us into a league winning position with only 6 games remaining, no one would have predicted that just before he arrived, he also took us into the knockout stages of the Europa league beating a Spanish team away from home for the first time in our history and also won the league cup. A mixed bag but certainly not a failure. 
The squad is undoubtedly weaker this season and it’s evident, but that’s what happens when you lose players for nothing and don’t then provide the manager with the funds not only to replace them but to strengthen the squad. On top of that we couldn’t even start the season playing at Ibrox.
Any manager would struggle here under those circumstances. The lack of investment is the number one concern for me and that’s down to the board. The entire situation is grim.
Maybe the answer is to pay him and his staff off, replace them with another management team and hope they perform a minor miracle with next to no funding. 

Were the board right to sack Gio or in hindsight would they have been better giving him funds and more time?

Rational and realistic post. 

[Trooblue 2,036]

2 minutes ago, Real Ranger said:

He inherited a team most had completely written off, almost won the league with them and as many of our fans believed were one signing away from winning it under his guidance. 

Off the park the club’s a shambles, the youth set up has been an abject failure for as long as I can remember and the player trading model is an embarrassment. 
 

Again not arguing with how bad we’ve been but have to take everything into account and sacking Clement at this stage of the season won’t solve anything unless there’s someone out there available who can perform a minor miracle. If the past is anything to go by it’ll only cost money we can’t afford.

Absolutely.  Sacking Clement and his assistants now would create yet another financial crisis, leaving the incompetent people at the top of the club to run yet another managerial recruitment process and attempt to bring someone in who would inherit a half completed rebuilding exercise and an empty player recruitment budget.  If things are bad now (and no-one doubts that this is so), such a scenario would only make things even worse.

[RM Monitor And Standards Officer 112,989]

22 minutes ago, Real Ranger said:

He inherited a team most had completely written off, almost won the league with them and as many of our fans believed were one signing away from winning it under his guidance. 

Off the park the club’s a shambles, the youth set up has been an abject failure for as long as I can remember and the player trading model is an embarrassment. 
 

Again not arguing with how bad we’ve been but have to take everything into account and sacking Clement at this stage of the season won’t solve anything unless there’s someone out there available who can perform a minor miracle. If the past is anything to go by it’ll only cost money we can’t afford.

Id expect a Rangers manager who has the budget we do to at least be on the tails of the Fenians before Halloween 

[.Williamson. 88,028]

If only we had Aberdeens resources 

[NixonRFC 1,645]

8 hours ago, cr3_bear said:

Gio I feel was slightly different . He fucked the league post winter break in his first season but actually finished the season strongly with a run to a European final , beating celtic at Hampden and then going on to win the Scottish cup. Was ultimately too little to late to salvage the title though and we also put in a really good performance at parkhead post split and in second half probably deserved to win the game and were a sakala shot off the post from doing so and probably take the title to the final day if that happens

The following season we started off fairly consistent but not overly inspiring bar a draw at Easter road where collum made a total cunt of sending Lundstrum off and qualified for the champions league. It was the parkhead 4-0 and the manner of it that completely derailed that season , didn't even have time to recover or regroup from it before another tanking was on the cards in the champjons league every other fortnight. Paired with injuries and his tactics then became even more cautious and predictable as the run went on confidence was in total tatters

Gio over achieved getting us into the CL, while it's what we all wanted and the club badly needed, we were in no way prepared to play against that level of opposition, and it just meant we were whipping boys for six nights, that has to demoralise you as a player, if we had a good showing against PSV and narrowly lost out in that Play-Off by the odd goal, we could've probably had a decent Europa Campaign and that feel good factor would've likely carried on into the League, but we just couldn't get any kind of momentum at all because the UCL games came thick and fast due to the World Cup being played in November, so we never had any genuine opportunity to build any decent form.